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xatty
I authored a DVD using MyDVD 9. I previewed it in MyDVD before burning and the menus looked fine and worked fine.

After burning, however, the menus on the actual DVD show misalignment between the menu highlighting and the underlying items that are supposed to be highlighted.

Here are some screen shots (taken off the TV):





Notice that the orange highlighting is not aligned properly with the white text underneath. (In the MyDVD preview window, there is perfect alignment.)

Is there a solution to this problem? (It happens both with two set-top DVD players.)
ivanatrox
does the same issue happen when you try to play on a computer as well? If you make a disc image for your MyDVD project and try to play it on the computer without burning, do you encoutner the same issue? also, two set top player on two different TVs?
pants10
I have the same problem.... and yes it does.

It happens if you load the image even... like use "burn to image" when making the disc and load the disc (using whatever roxio 9 has that lets you make disc images count as actual discs.)

how do you fix it?

I wonder if it has something to do with using it on an extended play option. Because for me the highlights are always bigger then the actual images. Like, as if they were on the "high" quality setting, but the actual image was the extended play size.

The problem it makes for me is that any buttons along the bottom of the screen are off the screen. The buttons are there, but the highlights are not, so you can't click on them or be sure which you are selecting.
ggrussell
QUOTE (pants10 @ Mar 28 2007, 02:55 AM) *
Like, as if they were on the "high" quality setting, but the actual image was the extended play size.
If you are talking about setting the the project to 'Extra Long Play', then no, there should be no difference in text size on the menu. This seems to be video card issue (to me). What video card do you have? Have you updated the drivers? Have you updated DirectX (feb2007)?
pants10
I have a Geforce 7900 GT OC with DirectX 9 c

I will try updating though, since you mention it.
ggrussell
Hmmm... we have seen some problems with higher end nVidia cards even though they are up to date.
pants10
O RLY? is it fixed if I turn of video acceleration while burning? I don't see how the card is messing up button encoding, since that seems like the last thing a video card would mess up during the encoding process.
grandpabruce
QUOTE (pants10 @ Mar 28 2007, 01:55 AM) *
I have the same problem.... and yes it does.

It happens if you load the image even... like use "burn to image" when making the disc and load the disc (using whatever roxio 9 has that lets you make disc images count as actual discs.)

how do you fix it?

I wonder if it has something to do with using it on an extended play option. Because for me the highlights are always bigger then the actual images. Like, as if they were on the "high" quality setting, but the actual image was the extended play size.

The problem it makes for me is that any buttons along the bottom of the screen are off the screen. The buttons are there, but the highlights are not, so you can't click on them or be sure which you are selecting.


It sounds like your DPI settings are not set to 96 DPI. Check under Display/Settings/Advanced. If it is not set to 96 DPI, change it.
pants10
QUOTE (grandpabruce @ Mar 28 2007, 03:41 PM) *
It sounds like your DPI settings are not set to 96 DPI. Check under Display/Settings/Advanced. If it is not set to 96 DPI, change it.


display? where is this? I can't find it in myDVD 9. it sounds like you are talking about some video player, which is not the issue at hand. (if you are, which one are you talking about)
ggrussell
QUOTE (pants10 @ Mar 28 2007, 06:33 PM) *
O RLY? is it fixed if I turn of video acceleration while burning? I don't see how the card is messing up button encoding, since that seems like the last thing a video card would mess up during the encoding process.
When set to 'hardware' rendering, Videowave/MyDVD actually uses the GPU and memory on the video card. That's why having good drivers & updated DirectX is important!
ogdens
QUOTE (pants10 @ Mar 28 2007, 06:58 PM) *
display? where is this? I can't find it in myDVD 9. it sounds like you are talking about some video player, which is not the issue at hand. (if you are, which one are you talking about)


Right click on your Desktop, select Properties>Settings> Advanced.
grandpabruce
QUOTE (pants10 @ Mar 28 2007, 05:58 PM) *
display? where is this? I can't find it in myDVD 9. it sounds like you are talking about some video player, which is not the issue at hand. (if you are, which one are you talking about)


Good grief. You need to learn the basics of a computer. It may be the issue at hand, and it has nothing to do with some video player.

Ogden, gave you instructions on how to check.
pants10
no no no... it is not the computer... it is not the DVD player, it is not the TV.

No matter what a DVD burned with my roxio 9 goes into, it has this problem.

It is not a resolution issue. I am sure that my computers resolution is fine, I am sure that my Sony DVD player's DPI is fine, and I am sure my TV is fine (it is cheap standard def, and has no such settings anyway). I was confused because it is the DVD menus that have the problem after encoding and I was looking in roxio for these settings. The problem must occur somewhere in the encoding process.


I want you to explain to me how the resolution of my computer could possibly effect the highlights of my DVD menus? Like, the "I even" was supposed to imply that the DVD in my not-computer DVD player had this issue (aka, only uses standard screen definitions) and that the way I am sure it is not the DVD player is that the raw image from my ISO file has the exact same problem. The "learn computer basics" punch offends me.



Update: something interesting I discovered. I updated my drivers and directx (I had the most up to date directx before, I can't promise about the nvidia drivers) and when that didn't work I switched to software rendering mode. As you may be able to guess, software rendering takes a great deal longer on my computer. I am waiting on it right now, and in the mean times I was playing with the burned DVDs I have made so far, namly the one that pushes the buttons off the bottom. I discovered for some reason one of the videos isn't resized to the same resolution for "extra long play" but rather remains very close to its original 640x360 size. It also appears that re-encoding the video on the computer burning the DVD is taking a very long time for it as well. It is Xvid rather then Divx, but that isn't the point... Could it be that because this one video is not being resized the way the rest of them are that it is causing the problem with the menus? I wouldn't think so since they are stored on completely different Vob files on the DVD, but perhaps there is a glitch in the software that is causing the size mis-match throughout the entire DVD.

Further Update: switching to software rendering did not fix the issue.

Solution: I confirmed that encoding it is High quality does fix the issue. I am certain that it is a fault in the encoding of the menus that causes the highlights to be set to a higher resolution then the background. (such as the buttons being set to 352x240 yet the highlights being set to 704x280). I wonder if the problem is related to the fact that on some DVD players the video won't size to wide screen despite the video itself being widescreen.



Question: Is it possible to render the Menus at a different resolution as the movies? Or render them at different times? Another thing is if there was a way I could edit the script or whatever on the root of the DVD that adjusted the sizes of the screen. Then it would be possible for me to render 2 DVDs and copy files around on the images before burning them (I did that all the time with Roxio 6 to pass the DVD image max size)
ggrussell
I don't see how the video resolution would or should affect the menu. I would assume that the menu would be render at the same resolution as the project setting. If you have the project set at 'extra long play' then the menu should be rendered at that setting, too.

I just rendered a quick project in 'extra long play' and the menu worked fine. Which menu style did you use? Did you try a different one? Also there are three ways of 'highlighting' a button: none, extent, and outline. Which did you choose?
grandpabruce
QUOTE (ggrussell @ Mar 29 2007, 08:00 AM) *
I don't see how the video resolution would or should affect the menu. I would assume that the menu would be render at the same resolution as the project setting. If you have the project set at 'extra long play' then the menu should be rendered at that setting, too.

I just rendered a quick project in 'extra long play' and the menu worked fine. Which menu style did you use? Did you try a different one? Also there are three ways of 'highlighting' a button: none, extent, and outline. Which did you choose?


My bad. I thought he couldn't see them in the program.
pants10
ok. I did figure it out and it worked. I discovered under file/project settings you can change the bitrate and the resolution. Oddly, when you turn the bitrate down from 9 or whatever mb/sec, it lowers the resolution. However, I found that I can still turn the resolution back up up again. (I didn't try this before because since it would change the resolution on me, I figured it wouldn't let me run 3 mb/sec at the higher resolution)

anyway, it totally fixes the issue for me.

xatty, try making sure that whenever you are ready to burn you go to file/project settings, and you set the resolution to 720x480. it worked for me without changing the file size.


To answer your question Grussel, I use mostly the default. But I have tested other button styles and it still happened. This seems like something that would only happen in version 1.00 of a piece of software, but I can't find any patches for it yet. I have to agree, it seems very strange that xatty and I would have this problem but not many else.
ggrussell
I can't seems to duplicate the problem. I tried several different menu styles at the lowest resolution and bitrate possible. Worked fine for me.

But to answer an earlier question on different rez/bitrate for menus, I don't think that is possible either. However, you can mix 4:3 menus and have 16:9 video or vise versa. I've done that accidentally.
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