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#1 zoomlens

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 06:51 AM

Newly purchased Creator NXT 2, replaced older version, 2010
W/7 Pro, SP1, latest updates applied
Dell XPX M1530 laptop
DVD Drive: Optiarc DVD-RW AD 7640A ATA Drive, latest software driver applied
Staples CD-R 80 minutes, 700mb 52x speed, 1x-52x compatible

Scenario:
Using iTunes to burn audio CD,
Always less than 60 minutes

Using Creator NXT 2 to copy CD originally burned in iTunes.
Copy Disc function randomly seems to fail when closing the CD burn process.
Some CD's are readable on other Dell laptop.
Other times the burn/close process seems to be hung.
An audible sound can be heard as if the CD was bad.
I have tried an assortment of other manufacturer CDs.
Nothing seems to help.

I close down NXT 2 and restart.
It may work it may not.

This problem was happening on the 2010 version of Creator.
I was hoping the new version would fix the problem.

any ideas appreciated...
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#2 d_deweywright

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 06:58 AM

I'd be interested to know what other brands of blank discs you've tried. Staples brand is one I wouldn't usually spend money for myself. Verbatim discs have historically been good. JVC/Taiyo Yuden are considered very good.

Are the discs created using iTunes always readable?

Do you know what speed iTunes burns the discs at? What speed do you let Creator write at?

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:03 AM

iTunes discs are always readable, no matter the CD manufacturer. That is part of my process. As soon as I burn the original iTunes CD, I test it on another Dell laptop immediately.
Interesting observation about burn rates in iTunes vs NXT 2.
I will test that immediately.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:10 AM

Just for reference, as drives got faster, I know someone with specialized testing equipment who observed that almost every disc written faster than 16X (the slowest most drives will go now) had "correctable errors." So I usually just write at 16X for my audio CDs.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:18 AM

iTunes is set to burn @ 24x
I changed NXT 2 to 24x.
Also..I use the Copy to Disk function first option that NXT 2 provides.

Just copied a previously burned iTunes audio CD.
Testing the NXT 2 copied CD on another laptop.
It is readable, all 15 tracks.

No going to test using the NXT 2 Make Another function.
Will report back shortly.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:32 AM

OK...2nd CD burned...cool...

iTunes does support the 16x burn rate.
But I see that the only 2 options for CD burn rates in NXT 2 are 24x or MAX.

second CD burned on NXT 2 using matching 24x burn rate sounds good.
This may have been the issue all along.
Man..I have wasted dozens of CD's trying to figure this out.

#7 d_deweywright

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:37 AM

I certainly hope that does it for you! Thanks for for trying it out and letting us know!

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:07 AM

Final resolution:

When burning/copying CD's using disparate software products, make sure the burn rates match!!!

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:44 AM

16X (the slowest most drives will go now)


Never burn a disc faster than the disc label says the disc's rated speed are. Example if you buy JVC/Taiyo Yuden 8X disc's don't burn them faster than 8x! http://www.supermedi...ntable-100-pack

Write speeds are what firmware the drive has for a certain brand of disc's!

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:29 AM

Never burn a disc faster than the disc label says the disc's rated speed are. Example if you buy JVC/Taiyo Yuden 8X disc's don't burn them faster than 8x! http://www.supermedi...ntable-100-pack

Write speeds are what firmware the drive has for a certain brand of disc's!

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Just a point of reference, the OP is making Audio CDs, and the link you posted is for DVDs. I haven't seen any CD-R discs available for many years that were rated less than 48X or 52X.

But your point is valid.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:50 AM

Just a point of reference, the OP is making Audio CDs, and the link you posted is for DVDs. I haven't seen any CD-R discs available for many years that were rated less than 48X or 52X.

But your point is valid.


Example Dave.

Here is a Verbatim 52x CD-R farmed out to a poor manufacture Moser Baer India.

Although it's a 52x write speed on the label my drive and firmware only shows a 48x write speed as the fastest safe burn speed.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:57 AM

I hate to keep whipping this horse but how would that be changed in the Roxio Suite, say to keep it at or below 48X???

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:32 AM

At one point, I was under the impression that the drive was supposed to determine the maximum write speed listed for the disc. (By reading the information on the disc.) And then limit itself to writing no faster than that. But I'm thinking back to when drives and discs were blazing at 12X and 16X.

For myself, I typically tell it to burn at 16X for CDs (sometimes 24X), and 4X or 6X for DVDs.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:01 AM

The OP declared the problem resolved at post #8, but the topic is still running? . . . .

Assorted computers in Windows XP, 7, and 10.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:58 AM

Yes. Just a continuing discussion to answer the nagging questions of, "how could this be better?" or "how would this be prevented in the future?"

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:15 AM

But I see that the only 2 options for CD burn rates in NXT 2 are 24x or MAX.


That is because of the disc your using and the firmware of your drive.

I show several options.

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