[1G22]

First, I want to thank BEERMAN for giving me a hint (through an answer to another users question....THANK the good Lord for the search feature on this forum!) that helped me finally burn my project successfully....at least mostly successfully.

The answer the helped me fix my problem can be found here

To fully explain why he helped me, I have to digress some to the start of my project. But first....I have to start with a warning to all new users of Roxio EMC8....and I am sure it holds true with EMC9 as well.

The minimum system requirements as stated by Roxio are a complete joke! Couple this with the fact that Roxio's product is insanely unstable and new users using hardware that doesn't far exceed the stated minimum requirements are in for a frustration they might not even be able to comprehend!

I have EMC8 loaded on my wife's laptop. It meets the minimum requirements and acutally nearly doubles it. I have found that 1 GB of memory should be the minimum....and this program should NOT be loaded on a laptop.

My project, when finally compiled, has about 525 frames, consisting of pictures and video, 30 or so different transitions that are used throughout, text, and music. Some of this is woven fairly intricately over the different allowable tracks. The entire project runs 51 minutes.

As the project grew, the program crashes increased. As the project grew, the time it would take the computer to open up the project balloon from a few seconds to between 5 and 10 minutes...and saving the project took nearly 10 minutes near the end. I anticipate that I have put in between 60-80 hours of compelation, not to mention the time editing the pictures and video. Probably a good 20 hours has been lost due to program crashes. I'm sure the vast majority of this is hardware related, but this appears to be a very unstable program at any rate.

Now, after nearly 2 months of on and off work on this project, it was time to burn. I started the burn before I went to bed. I checked on it in the morning and it had burned successfully....or at least I thought so. It played beautifully on the computer's DVD drive. The menu looked great, the transitions worked perfectly, the music sounded great and was timed perfectly.

....then I put it into my DVD players....and read "This device does not play this type of disk. Please insert another disk." I had used a DVD-R. I burned a DVD+R.....same result, played on the DVD in the computer, but not the DVD player. So, I burned a DVD+RW....same result. My wife took it to the neighbors....wouldn't play.

I was nearing blindness with rage. Thank God for my wife. She started playing around and found the program settings. It had somehow been set to PAL. I changed it to NTSC.....and burned again. After another 3 1/2 hours, it stated it was 100%....but the disk was blank. Rage....building. I would have gladly gotten out the sledge hammer and taken it to the laptop. I had had it.

I burned again...this time making sure I burned an ISO file as well to see if that had made any difference. After another 3 1/2 hours, the the disk progress said 100%....but this time the error code 8007000e showed up. I was beyond rage and now entering helplessness and despair.

That's when I got on here....and found BEERMAN's post. It simply said:

"Try burning the ISO with Creator Classic and see if you have the same problem. In EMC9, I have better luck with Creator Classic burning the ISO files."

"Why not?" I said to myself. I pulled up Creator Classic....a part of the suite I had never opened. I found the iso (that had somehow burned) and burned it. 20 minutes later it stopped....I popped the disk out and I immediately noticed that something had burned.

I popped it into the DVD player and it played!!!!! The menu didn't play, but the project itself burned. I plan on working out the kink here, but 2 months worth of work was showing up on my TV.

THANK YOU BEERMAN!!!!

Now, this wasn't the final product, I have decided to add a few things and fix a few errors that I missed in my editing. What I want to say to any new user of this program is don't use it unless you have a system that can really, really make it work without exhausting system resources. There is nothing more frustrating than watching two hours with a creativity vanish when that freakin' window pops up telling you that Roxio has to close because of a problem and that they are sorry for any inconvience! This will be my one and only project on my wife's laptop. I will be waiting until we upgrade our desktop and then I will be ensuring that the computer we get can handle Roxio with no problem. Please....heed this warning! It is for you own good and the sake of your mental health!

[Beerman]

Thanks for the thanks! I was a huge Disc Copier fan for burning ISO's until just about the time I posted about using Creator Classic. I use a lot of RW's and I've noticed DC just hasn't been cutting it for me. On 3 standalone players, ISO's burned with DC either would not start or stuttered. These were mostly RW's and I assumed it was the fact that most had been burned before but some were -R and +R as well. So I tried Creator Classic and 95% of those problems have disappeared. I have not tried the Burn Image to Disc from the Home menu but often wondered exactly what was different about each of these methods that obviously affect the final disc.
I am glad I helped.

[myguggi]

1G22, on Oct 12 2006, 02:47 AM, said:

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I have EMC8 loaded on my wife's laptop. It meets the minimum requirements and acutally nearly doubles it. I have found that 1 GB of memory should be the minimum....and this program should NOT be loaded on a laptop.

My project, when finally compiled, has about 525 frames, consisting of pictures and video, 30 or so different transitions that are used throughout, text, and music. Some of this is woven fairly intricately over the different allowable tracks. The entire project runs 51 minutes.

As the project grew, the program crashes increased. As the project grew, the time it would take the computer to open up the project balloon from a few seconds to between 5 and 10 minutes...and saving the project took nearly 10 minutes near the end. I anticipate that I have put in between 60-80 hours of compelation, not to mention the time editing the pictures and video. Probably a good 20 hours has been lost due to program crashes. I'm sure the vast majority of this is hardware related, but this appears to be a very unstable program at any rate.

I have a suggestion regarding creating large projects using Videowave. Instead of trying one large all-inclusive project, I have found it is much better to create the full production in several stages (maybe 10-15 minutes each) and output each of these productions to a avi or mpg file which you can then combine seamlessly using myDVD. You will find that loading/saving/etc will go much faster and if a crash occurs you will not lose your complete production. The amount of memory is not really that big a factor (I only have 784MB) but it is important to have lots of free, unfragmented space on your storage device. Shutting down any running productions and disconnecting from the internet also improve performance. When creating the iso file also make sure you uncheck the "burn to disc" option.

[1G22]

myguggi, on Oct 14 2006, 04:02 PM, said:

I have a suggestion regarding creating large projects using Videowave. Instead of trying one large all-inclusive project, I have found it is much better to create the full production in several stages (maybe 10-15 minutes each) and output each of these productions to a avi or mpg file which you can then combine seamlessly using myDVD. You will find that loading/saving/etc will go much faster and if a crash occurs you will not lose your complete production. The amount of memory is not really that big a factor (I only have 784MB) but it is important to have lots of free, unfragmented space on your storage device. Shutting down any running productions and disconnecting from the internet also improve performance. When creating the iso file also make sure you uncheck the "burn to disc" option.

I'll try this with my next project.....if I decide to undertake one! Thanks for the suggestion.

I am trying to do some final fine-tuning with my large project. I have started another project and am copying and pasting the stuff from my project into this new project to do my editing. I am then copying and pasting the edited piece back into the big project. It seems to be working pretty well. I still get run time errors where the program will suddenly just shut down without any error box appearing. That has been annoying. Working in a smaller project has allowed for mor frequent saving. This has been helping to cut down on lost work. I'll just be glad when the project is over and burned. I have had a TON of fun making it, but it has become a burden. My wife is tired of hearing me curse and cuss everytime it shuts down. I have learned a lot. One of the issues has been my decision to work in some new idea into the project. I should stop doing that!

[fhoss]

myguggi, on Oct 14 2006, 04:02 PM, said:

I have a suggestion regarding creating large projects using Videowave. Instead of trying one large all-inclusive project, I have found it is much better to create the full production in several stages (maybe 10-15 minutes each) and output each of these productions to a avi or mpg file which you can then combine seamlessly using myDVD. You will find that loading/saving/etc will go much faster and if a crash occurs you will not lose your complete production. The amount of memory is not really that big a factor (I only have 784MB) but it is important to have lots of free, unfragmented space on your storage device. Shutting down any running productions and disconnecting from the internet also improve performance. When creating the iso file also make sure you uncheck the "burn to disc" option.

I have been having problems encoding menus on EMC9 - I say this only as background for my questions about the above [I hope to resolve the menu problem someday myself], Most of my projects - I am strictly an amateur, are one production type projects and I can use "DVD no menu"
1) Is there an advantage to outputting the production to an avi or mpg file over the default file?
2) When you say "combine seamlessly" in MyDVD does that mean there is a way of running each segment one after the other without encountering a menu button [note my problem with encoding menus]