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[sanweikui]

I bought some dvd-r and want to toast some files. I use the toast 7 and found i can't use the "write session" option in record setting ,because its gray and disable, and default to "write disk".
why?

[fingerman]

Multi-session writing is only available for CDs.
The Mac OS cannot display multiple DVD sessions, so Toast doesn't let you write them.

If it did, then when you inserted the DVD back into the Mac, you wouldn't see the other sessions of data.

[freshburn]

Not only would you not see some data, but that data would also be lost.  There is no spec for multi-session DVD.  Some programs will let you burn that data as multi-session ISO, but even on a PC may or may not work.  Nero for example will give an error that the data may be lost, not read by the drive and will only work on XP.

On the Mac, the finder will just ignore the sessions and the session that does mount most often can't be accessed?  Is that the feature you're looking for?

[pampelune]

Dragon Burn does make multisession on a Mac, using DVD+RW or DVD+R discs.

I use it, and I can use/see all the different sessions on my desktop.

Please don't say it's not possible on a mac. It's not possible with Toast, that's the difference.

[John at Roxio]

pampelune, on Apr 9 2006, 08:38 AM, said:

Dragon Burn does make multisession on a Mac, using DVD+RW or DVD+R discs.

I use it, and I can use/see all the different sessions on my desktop.

Please don't say it's not possible on a mac. It's not possible with Toast, that's the difference.

Just because you can get away with it, doesnt mean its a good idea.  Come on man, quit ragging on Toast.  If Toast let you do whatever you wanted, but you stand the chance of loosing your data sometime in the future, how reliable would that be?  Seems to me that the smarter choice is Toast's refusal of non-standard support over Dragons "feature" of non-standard support.  Just wait until someday you cant access your data, and we will have this conversation over again.

[pampelune]

frenchtoastwithjam, on Apr 9 2006, 06:45 PM, said:

Just because you can get away with it, doesnt mean its a good idea.  Come on man, quit ragging on Toast.  If Toast let you do whatever you wanted, but you stand the chance of loosing your data sometime in the future, how reliable would that be?  Seems to me that the smarter choice is Toast's refusal of non-standard support over Dragons "feature" of non-standard support.  Just wait until someday you cant access your data, and we will have this conversation over again.

Well, being honest, I love Toast. But why do you say the multisession is not reliable with Dragon Burn ??

How can I make 500Mo backups every week on DVD apart from erasing it before writing everytime ??

[John at Roxio]

pampelune, on Apr 10 2006, 12:34 AM, said:

Well, being honest, I love Toast. But why do you say the multisession is not reliable with Dragon Burn ??

How can I make 500Mo backups every week on DVD apart from erasing it before writing everytime ??

Wait, if you are erasing the disc and then burning, that isnt multisession.  If you burn more then once to the disc whithout erasing, thats multisession.

The reason I say it is unreliable is simply because of the fact that there is no standard for Multisession DVD.  Something will change in a driver, or firmware, or something, and then, poof, no more data.  Granted, your applciation does not seem mission critical, but if I backup some files that I want to read 4 years from now, I wouldn't do it on a Multisession DVD.

[pampelune]

frenchtoastwithjam, on Apr 10 2006, 09:02 AM, said:

Wait, if you are erasing the disc and then burning, that isnt multisession.  If you burn more then once to the disc whithout erasing, thats multisession.

I was talking about making it with Toast.  

So I burn multisessions DVD with Dragon, but would love to make it with Toast.
My best choice would be to burn incremental DVD's with Toast, but as I understand it will never be available  

If you've got a better choice to backup about 500Mo on DVD every week, thanks to give me your help  

[tsantee]

pampelune, on Apr 10 2006, 09:11 AM, said:

I was talking about making it with Toast.  

So I burn multisessions DVD with Dragon, but would love to make it with Toast.
My best choice would be to burn incremental DVD's with Toast, but as I understand it will never be available  

If you've got a better choice to backup about 500Mo on DVD every week, thanks to give me your help  

The best alternative I can suggest is to create a DVD-sized temporary partition (Toast Utilities menu) on an external hard drive. Back up to that temporary partition. When it gets full use the Toast Copy window to burn that image file to DVD.

[pampelune]

tsantee, on Apr 10 2006, 09:17 AM, said:

The best alternative I can suggest is to create a DVD-sized temporary partition (Toast Utilities menu) on an external hard drive. Back up to that temporary partition. When it gets full use the Toast Copy window to burn that image file to DVD.

Well, thanks that's what I do every month, a clone with carbon copy cloner, but I've got to plug the drive which is not really practicle