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#1 hermie54

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 05:17 AM

Installed fine, but haven't tried it yet.

Just letting you guys know.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 08:25 AM

Available here.
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:56 PM

Toast 12.0.x was formerly stable but now with the newly released 12.1 update I'm getting nonstop crashes while encoding Blu-Rays (twice today already), writing them to a Disk Image (once just now), and burning to BD-R (four times yesterday!) What in the world did Roxio change with this terrible update?? I'm using a top of the line 2012 Core i7 iMac with 32GB of memory, running the latest OS X 10.10.2 so everything is up to spec and nothing has changed other than simply updating Toast to 12.1. Any ideas?? I'm wasting SO much time at work trying to get this to function!
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Posted 18 February 2015 - 07:51 AM

Toast 12.0.x was formerly stable but now with the newly released 12.1 update I'm getting nonstop crashes while encoding Blu-Rays (twice today already), writing them to a Disk Image (once just now), and burning to BD-R (four times yesterday!) What in the world did Roxio change with this terrible update?? I'm using a top of the line 2012 Core i7 iMac with 32GB of memory, running the latest OS X 10.10.2 so everything is up to spec and nothing has changed other than simply updating Toast to 12.1. Any ideas?? I'm wasting SO much time at work trying to get this to function!

They never tell us what is changed in the updates. I read another post where the crashing stopped after updating to 10.1. What is the format of your source video so I can see if I can replicate your issue? Also, you can have multiple versions of Toast on your Mac so you can re-install the earlier Toast 10 or copy it back from a backup.
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I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 10:11 AM

They never tell us what is changed in the updates. I read another post where the crashing stopped after updating to 10.1. What is the format of your source video so I can see if I can replicate your issue? Also, you can have multiple versions of Toast on your Mac so you can re-install the earlier Toast 10 or copy it back from a backup.


The source material is five video clips all in Apple ProRes 422 LT format and I have Toast 12.1 set to encode at 26.0 Mbps with Dolby Digital audio at 320kbps (same settings I've used a hundred times before). To add insult to injury, last night I FINALLY got it to successfully finish encoding a project, which it then saved to a disc image (.toast) file... and then of course crashed just as it finished writing the disc image file! Needless to say, when I burned that disc image to BD-R it has errors and freezes up about 3/4 of the way through. So back to the drawing board I go now. Great.

I do still have my older Toast 10.0.9 installed, so I think I'll either use it today or try using Time Machine to revert back to Toast 12.0.1. Both of those were stable in my experience.

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 08:01 PM

Toast seems to have real problems with ProRes codec. There are lots of posts complaining about quality issues that don't exist with Toast encoding from other codecs. So that may be a factor in your issue.

You cannot have both the Toast 10 and the Toast 11/12 Blu-Ray plugin. When you installed Toast 12's plugin it disabled the one for Toast 10. So you need to go back to 12.01 and not Toast 10 for Blu-Ray video projects.

I suggest choosing a different export codec from FCP. Also, 26 Mbps is really high and may be contributing to the problem.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 09:36 PM

I didn't try using Toast 10 but I'm sure you're right about the Blu-Ray plugin. I simply reverted to 12.0.1 using Time Machine which seemed to do the trick and I successfully burned five copies of the Blu-Ray today (with a crash or two thrown in for good measure). Over the past 4-5 years I've burned over 100 Blu-Ray discs at 26.0 Mbps and never had a problem, nor had any ProRes issues that I'm aware of... basically prior to the Toast 12.1 update in my experience it's been a solid program which I've used and depended on weekly without significant issues. I'd read many terrible reviews of Toast online, but in my personal experience it had been pretty good right up until last week's update. =(
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Posted 19 February 2015 - 08:15 PM

I've about had it with Toast... been using it, grudgingly, for years. Always have issues with this program... get an hour into something and CRASH! Wow, what fun! Does anyone out there have a Toast that works well?
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Posted 21 February 2015 - 09:26 AM

Toast 11 was great, only the speed of encoding seemed lacking, at least on my Mac system. Toast 12's encoding speed seemed to increase manyfold. I figured Roxio was taking advantage of the hyper-threading capabilities, however all Dvd's burnt stutter. I went back to Toast 11 and burnt the same movie and it ran smoothly. This occurs on all video files mkv, mp4, avi's and mov's. Something is definitely amiss in the new version of Toast.

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 10:39 AM

Toast 11 was great, only the speed of encoding seemed lacking, at least on my Mac system. Toast 12's encoding speed seemed to increase manyfold. I figured Roxio was taking advantage of the hyper-threading capabilities, however all Dvd's burnt stutter. I went back to Toast 11 and burnt the same movie and it ran smoothly. This occurs on all video files mkv, mp4, avi's and mov's. Something is definitely amiss in the new version of Toast.

Interesting. Please provide some specifics so I can attempt to replicate it on my Mac. I don't make DVD videos much anymore. My expectation is you should not have seen any increase in the encoding speed.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 12:00 AM

Interesting. Please provide some specifics so I can attempt to replicate it on my Mac. I don't make DVD videos much anymore. My expectation is you should not have seen any increase in the encoding speed.

I should say it is Toast 12.1 that I was referring to. Toast 12.01 cruised along like Toast 11. Toast 12.1 when burning caused the fans to go on which never happened before, at least to my knowledge. I am currently burning a 1.55GB HD mkv file in version 12.01. When it is done I will note the time elapsed and then upgrade to version 12.1 and burn the same file and report the time involved and the condition of the playback on my DVD player.

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 07:39 AM

Interesting. Please provide some specifics so I can attempt to replicate it on my Mac. I don't make DVD videos much anymore. My expectation is you should not have seen any increase in the encoding speed.

OK, I have finished the comparison burns. In Toast 12.01 the 1.55GB HD mkv file took about 8 hrs to encode and burn. The DVD played normal on both the computer and my DVD player. In Toast 12.1 the same file took 25 minutes to encode and multiplex, then 3 minutes to burn. This copy stutters or jumps throughout( as if skipping frames) on both the computer and my DVD player. The soundtrack is normal.
I have a Mac Mini Late 2012, 2.6 Ghz i7 processor with 16 Gb of memory running OSX 10.10.2. As I said before the fans ramp up in Toast 12.1 but not in 12.01. HandBrake is the only other app I have that does this due to its being written to take advantage of the hyper-threading capability. I hope this is enough info. I am reverting back to version 12.01

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 12:21 PM

OK, I have finished the comparison burns. In Toast 12.01 the 1.55GB HD mkv file took about 8 hrs to encode and burn. The DVD played normal on both the computer and my DVD player. In Toast 12.1 the same file took 25 minutes to encode and multiplex, then 3 minutes to burn. This copy stutters or jumps throughout( as if skipping frames) on both the computer and my DVD player. The soundtrack is normal.
I have a Mac Mini Late 2012, 2.6 Ghz i7 processor with 16 Gb of memory running OSX 10.10.2. As I said before the fans ramp up in Toast 12.1 but not in 12.01. HandBrake is the only other app I have that does this due to its being written to take advantage of the hyper-threading capability. I hope this is enough info. I am reverting back to version 12.01

My guess is there is a bug in Toast 12.1 with regard to encoding those MKV videos. It's obviously skipping through the process.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 01:06 PM

My guess is there is a bug in Toast 12.1 with regard to encoding those MKV videos. It's obviously skipping through the process.

It does the same on mp4's. I'm surprised no one else has complained or commented on it.

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 01:53 PM

It does the same on mp4's. I'm surprised no one else has complained or commented on it.

Strange. I just did a test of a mp4 HD video I shot of a road run using Toast 12.1 on my older Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro. The resulting DVD video does not stutter. The difference must be in the hardware between our two Macs.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 01:11 AM

Strange. I just did a test of a mp4 HD video I shot of a road run using Toast 12.1 on my older Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro. The resulting DVD video does not stutter. The difference must be in the hardware between our two Macs.

I too have another Mac. A late 2009 iMac with 2.8Ghz i7 processor, 8 Gb memory, running OSX 10.10.2. I get the exact same results from Toast 12.1 as I do on my Mac Mini. The mp4 file seemed to take a little longer to encode but playback was unwatchable on DVD player. I guess I will have to wait for Roxio to issue another update before I venture past version 12.01. As I said before others must have the same results.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 03:13 AM

The Roxio Toast Update link still dont show Toast 12 Update of any versions only Toast 11 and Below ........ why ?.
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Posted 12 March 2015 - 10:26 AM

The Roxio Toast Update link still dont show Toast 12 Update of any versions only Toast 11 and Below ........ why ?.

I don't know, but the link I posted at the near the top of this topic will download it for you.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 07:00 PM

Hi, I was wondering if I can get some help with Toast 12. I tried burning DVD today. The movie plays on DVD player but not on the computer (Mac ProBook). Any idea how to get that fixed or where could be the issue?

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 10:26 PM

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Hi, I was wondering if I can get some help with Toast 12. I tried burning DVD today. The movie plays on DVD player but not on the computer (Mac ProBook). Any idea how to get that fixed or where could be the issue?

Have you tried the DVD on another computer? My experience with Mac Super Drives(especially Optiarc) are not generally good. I have external burners on all my computers. If the DVD plays on your DVD player I would strongly suspect the optical drive on the computer

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