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#41 Istari

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 09:55 AM

Well, I can add the following. Left it running overnight, and it was at 85% when I got up this morning (so again, ~1% per hour).  Out of curiosity, I checked Activity Monitor, and found that it had read ~16GB+, but only written ~128KB... which led me to think that it was not yet at a point of writing anything (other than structures), and was still analyzing/evaluating content... but for 8-10 hours? o_O

 

Given how I have my system set up and resources arranged, and since the above appeared to indicate it was getting hung up or otherwise "crawling" while reading, I thought I'd re-encode the lot and write everything out to a separate device - and use ONLY that device.  Did that and... same behavior.

 

Also out of curiosity while this latest instance was running, I thought I'd check the Console for messages (error or otherwise).  What I found was... interesting; but neither enlightening nor encouraging - with (de)emphasis on the latter.

 

 

06-13-2015 1:16:55.152 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: WARNING: The Gestalt selector gestaltSystemVersion is returning 10.9.3 instead of 10.10.3. Use NSProcessInfo's operatingSystemVersion property to get correct system version number.

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06-13-2015 1:16:55.256 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 0   CarbonCore                          0x9ab6d291 ___Gestalt_SystemVersion_block_invoke + 135
06-13-2015 1:16:55.256 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 1   libdispatch.dylib                   0x929b0130 _dispatch_client_callout + 50
06-13-2015 1:16:55.256 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 2   libdispatch.dylib                   0x929b00b5 dispatch_once_f + 251
06-13-2015 1:16:55.256 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 3   libdispatch.dylib                   0x929b10d8 dispatch_once + 31
06-13-2015 1:16:55.256 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 4   CarbonCore                          0x9aae669d _Gestalt_SystemVersion + 1050
06-13-2015 1:16:55.256 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 5   CarbonCore                          0x9aae57c0 Gestalt + 150
06-13-2015 1:16:55.257 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: 6   Toast Titanium                      0x00072a45 _ZN22CCompressedImageReader15LoadDIFrameworkEv + 57
 
 
06-13-2015 1:17:49.287 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: CGContextSaveGState: invalid context 0x0. This is a serious error. This application, or a library it uses, is using an invalid context  and is thereby contributing to an overall degradation of system stability and reliability. This notice is a courtesy: please fix this problem. It will become a fatal error in an upcoming update.
06-13-2015 1:17:49.472 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: CGContextSetCompositeOperation: invalid context 0x0. This is a serious error. This application, or a library it uses, is using an invalid context  and is thereby contributing to an overall degradation of system stability and reliability. This notice is a courtesy: please fix this problem. It will become a fatal error in an upcoming update.
06-13-2015 1:17:49.477 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: CGContextFillRects: invalid context 0x0. This is a serious error. This application, or a library it uses, is using an invalid context  and is thereby contributing to an overall degradation of system stability and reliability. This notice is a courtesy: please fix this problem. It will become a fatal error in an upcoming update.
06-13-2015 1:17:49.481 PM Toast Titanium[1206]: CGContextRestoreGState: invalid context 0x0. This is a serious error. This application, or a library it uses, is using an invalid context  and is thereby contributing to an overall degradation of system stability and reliability. This notice is a courtesy: please fix this problem. It will become a fatal error in an upcoming update.
 
 
06-13-2015 1:22:56.000 PM kernel[0]: process Toast Titanium[1206] thread 90940 caught burning CPU! It used more than 50% CPU (Actual recent usage: 94%) over 180 seconds. thread lifetime cpu usage 90.126651 seconds, (87.634867 user, 2.491784 system) ledger info: balance: 90005235721 credit: 90005235721 debit: 0 limit: 90000000000 (50%) period: 180000000000 time since last refill (ns): 95698446512 
 
 
06-13-2015 1:31:44.000 PM kernel[0]: process Toast Titanium[1206] caught causing excessive wakeups. Observed wakeups rate (per sec): 153; Maximum permitted wakeups rate (per sec): 150; Observation period: 300 seconds; Task lifetime number of wakeups: 128200
 
 
Given what you mentioned re: Roxio vs. Corel, I think I've spent as much time on this particular effort as I'm willing to give it (more so, actually).  Consequently, I think I'm going to abandon Toast until the next patch/update and see if that actually fixes anything.
 
In a way, it's too bad, as it looked like it might be useful for "simple" projects that I wanted to create both Blu-ray and DVD discs for; i.e. it appeared as if I could set up a Blu-ray project, save it, duplicate it, then change the settings to produce a DVD, and let Toast do all the encoding for both.  However, I'm more interested in being able to create Blu-ray discs from externally encoded sources, so... looks like it's time to play "The Waiting Game™".


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 03:40 PM

So sorry it isn't working. My only possible suggestions are to trash Toast and its plist and prefs files. Then reinstall from the Toast 12 update on Roxio's Software Updates page. Also try the HD MPEG 2 from Compressor rather than h.264.


I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

#43 Istari

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 06:10 AM

Aye, tried to trash the Toast files from ~/Library/Preferences; had to reboot in order to empty the trash, as one of them was still in use, even though the application wasn't running (highly unusual)... no change in behavior afterwards.  Also tried to reinstall as you mentioned and... no change in behavior.

 

The only "upside" seems to be that, after attempting to use MPEG-2 vs H.264,... it "appears"* to produce usable results.  With MPEG-2 content and reencoding set to "Never", it takes ~4-5m to go through multiplexing... and then appears to repeat that step a second time (if it's "supposed to do that", it would be helpful if the status window showed "pass 1", "pass 2", etc.).  After that, it spends a couple of minutes in "rainbow frisbee" mode (i.e. showing app is busy, but not updating the status window at all, which is misleading and gives the impression that the app has stopped responding), before finally showing that it's "filling the RAM cache", and then moves on to "writing", which... having set it to write a disc image, appears to take unusually long for the ~18.8GB file it creates (close to an hour).

 

* in the sense that it creates a disc image file and Roxio Video Player can read/play it, although player performance is... inconsistent at best

 

I haven't yet tried to burn a BD-R from the disc image file - that'll be next; after which, I'll need to check the disc in an actual Blu-ray player (in this case a PS3).

 

I'm not sure it would be fair to say "worst app ever", but I'm having a hard time trying to think of an app I've had a worse experience with (and that's going back to apps on a Mac SE with System 5.0).  Given the current "outstanding issues", it appears... "irresponsible" ...for Corel/Roxio to have released 12 at all in this state; it seems to have suffered from a typical management/corporate officer directive of "get it out the door now, fix it later".



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 01:33 PM

I'm not sure it would be fair to say "worst app ever", but I'm having a hard time trying to think of an app I've had a worse experience with (and that's going back to apps on a Mac SE with System 5.0).  Given the current "outstanding issues", it appears... "irresponsible" ...for Corel/Roxio to have released 12 at all in this state; it seems to have suffered from a typical management/corporate officer directive of "get it out the door now, fix it later".

Nice summary. Unsure about the "fix it later" part, though. I've been the major (sometimes only) contributor to this forum for several years and have witnessed some amazing missteps in the development and release of various versions of Toast. Given the history I know, I'm impressed it works this well. What's needed, though, is something totally new rather than patching and adding on new features.

 

Yes, the repeat multiplexing and long dead time is normal when preparing a Blu-ray video from a HD MPEG 2 file. You also may experience a crash at the end of writing the Blu-ray disc from a disc image. The disc plays fine, even so.


I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 05:14 PM

The question I'm asking myself now is what BluRay burning alternatives are there?



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 11:19 AM

Nice summary. Unsure about the "fix it later" part, though. I've been the major (sometimes only) contributor to this forum for several years and have witnessed some amazing missteps in the development and release of various versions of Toast. Given the history I know, I'm impressed it works this well. What's needed, though, is something totally new rather than patching and adding on new features.

 

Yes, the repeat multiplexing and long dead time is normal when preparing a Blu-ray video from a HD MPEG 2 file. You also may experience a crash at the end of writing the Blu-ray disc from a disc image. The disc plays fine, even so.

 

Unsure that they'll actually "fix it later"?  ;)   Not being anywhere near as familiar with the history, the UI itself seems completely different from what I last saw (Toast 6?),... which may also be because that version couldn't actually produce video discs at the time (don't recall).  In any case, I don't mind the UI itself, but a) they need to fix these issues immediately (the product shouldn't have been released in this state), and B) would be nice to be able to set up multiple custom chapter/index menus similar to iDVD.

 

The question I'm asking myself now is what BluRay burning alternatives are there?

 

The only other one I'm using myself at the moment is Compressor, which isn't much of an alternative, as it appears Compressor can only create single track discs; i.e. you put everything you want into a single file/stream/track with (or without) chapter marks, and tell it to "Create Blu-ray disc" as the "job action".

 

I've seen others in the OS X App Store, but had tried Toast first having used it in the past.  Now I'm wondering if I've wasted my money on it...



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Posted 25 June 2015 - 10:19 AM

Update to 12.1 crashes!! My advice is to stick with 12.0.1.

 

 



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Posted 25 June 2015 - 03:19 PM

Update to 12.1 crashes!! My advice is to stick with 12.0.1.

Strange. When does it crash? I've had Toast crash after completing a disc burn.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:41 PM

Running Sierra w/toast T12 and updated 12.1 It crashed in El Capitan and now in Sierra, wont boot up-ie click create video click finish then Bang  and the crash page shows up tried restart Mac (32 ram) and no go on Toast

 






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