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#1 wonder

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 09:09 AM

I just installed version 9 and while making a CD found that I couldn't fade two purchased songs together. I had a thing pop up saying that I already had one song on the disc and that editing and fading wouldn't be allowed. This is a big change from version 8 it means I can't make CD's anymore. Did I do something wrong or is this the way the new version is suppose to work?

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 09:46 AM

View Postwonder, on Oct 16 2006, 12:09 PM, said:

I just installed version 9 and while making a CD found that I couldn't fade two purchased songs together. I had a thing pop up saying that I already had one song on the disc and that editing and fading wouldn't be allowed. This is a big change from version 8 it means I can't make CD's anymore. Did I do something wrong or is this the way the new version is suppose to work?


Let me understand this, you already burned one piece of music to a disc and now you want to change the music on the disc so that it will fade to another song you are going to be putting on the disc?  I don't remember that V8 had anything like this.  Could you explain a little more and tell us what function in EMC 9 you are trying to use? (Music Disc Creator, Sound Editor etc?

How did you get that first purchased piece of music onto the disc?
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Posted 16 October 2006 - 10:06 AM

View Postwonder, on Oct 16 2006, 09:09 AM, said:

"... I already had one song on the disc and that editing and fading wouldn't be allowed..."

If you have already one song burned in the CD... it will be almost impossible specially if he CD is CLOSED. Usually I have all the songs in the Hard Disk to work with the sound editor, previous conversion to WAV files. Make sure that the CD you want to burn is totally blank. How come you purchase a song and was saved straight to the CD??? I think is beter if you download to the Hard disk. From there you can manage everything.

Other thing: About downloading songs there are some policies of the companies who isuues those services. They take care about the copyrights to avoid the piracy as much as they can.

Read the POLICIES or Terms and Conditions of the company from where you are downloading songs. For example, ITUNES allows you to burn up to 7 CDs when purchased a song.

Maybe other companies don't allow you to edit the songs, unless you first burn to a CD as audio CD files, without effects, without transitions and THEN, copy those tracks to the Hard disk again and work with the sound editor like working with other CDs compilations.

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 03:10 PM

There are no songs burned on the disc "sorry" I am trying to put a song list together and version 9 says that because I have one song on the disc I can't fade another song to it. they are both songs I own and they are on my hard drive. Do you think they might have some kind of protection that doesn't allow you to copy or something. I could do this with version 8 and it always worked but version 9 says I'm not allowed to do this. I was trying to make a new copy of a cd I made in version 8 and was one of the old version 8 dm file things. but since I can't import into version 9 I was trying to rebuild it using version9 but now version9 says I can't do it.

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 03:25 PM

View Postwonder, on Oct 16 2006, 06:10 PM, said:

There are no songs burned on the disc "sorry" I am trying to put a song list together and version 9 says that because I have one song on the disc I can't fade another song to it. they are both songs I own and they are on my hard drive. Do you think they might have some kind of protection that doesn't allow you to copy or something. I could do this with version 8 and it always worked but version 9 says I'm not allowed to do this. I was trying to make a new copy of a cd I made in version 8 and was one of the old version 8 dm file things. but since I can't import into version 9 I was trying to rebuild it using version9 but now version9 says I can't do it.

Yes, it is called Digital Rights Management (DRM).  If you purchased music to download, it has DRM.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 04:05 PM

View Postgrandpabruce, on Oct 16 2006, 04:25 PM, said:

Yes, it is called Digital Rights Management (DRM).  If you purchased music to download, it has DRM.

So you're saying then that this was changed from version8 to version9 since in version8 I can use the feature but in version9 I can't correct?

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 04:25 PM

If it's not allowed by DRM then it would work the same in V8 as V9.Usually you can only burn with the program that the download service uses (iTunes,WMP,etc..).What we need to know is the exact process you're using so we can try and duplicate it and see what happens.

Edited by tbrewst, 18 October 2006 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:42 PM

View Posttbrewst, on Oct 18 2006, 05:25 PM, said:

If it's not allowed by DRM then it would work the same in V8 as V9.Usually you can only burn with the program that the download service uses (iTunes,WMP,etc..).What we need to know is the exact process you're using so we can try and duplicate it and see what happens.

Okay I'll make this simpler  - I am reusing the same exact songs (from my hard drive which I purchased the rights to burn as many times as I want) that I used before to build the same CD in Version 8 only now I'm using Version 9 because I can't seem to import my dmsa files into Version 9 so I'm forced to do it song by song transiton by transition.  Except it won't let me transition.

In Version 8 I was allowed to fade/transition these same exact songs songs together in Version 9 I recieve a grayed out area where the transitions would be and a notice that it won't allow me to transition the second song to the first . So I guess from what was said before there is now some new kind of code written into Version 9 that wasn't in Version 8.

All I'm trying to find out is if this is right or not or if perhaps my Version 9 is screwed up and needs to be reinstalled. If Version 9 does have this change then I would like to know that also.

View Postwonder, on Oct 18 2006, 09:41 PM, said:

Okay I'll make this simpler  - I am reusing the same exact songs (from my hard drive which I purchased the rights to burn as many times as I want) that I used before to build the same CD in Version 8 only now I'm using Version 9 because I can't seem to import my dmsa files into Version 9 so I'm forced to do it song by song transiton by transition.  Except it won't let me transition.

In Version 8 I was allowed to fade/transition these same exact songs songs together in Version 9 I recieve a grayed out area where the transitions would be and a notice that it won't allow me to transition the second song to the first . So I guess from what was said before there is now some new kind of code written into Version 9 that wasn't in Version 8.

All I'm trying to find out is if this is right or not or if perhaps my Version 9 is screwed up and needs to be reinstalled. If Version 9 does have this change then I would like to know that also.


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Posted 19 October 2006 - 04:34 AM

Ok,I tried with songs that I have downloaded (legally) and it would allow me to do both things.The tracks I used had been downloaded,burned to a cd with WMP (the program needed by the download service),and then ripped back to my hard drive.
If you can't do this then you might try using Add/Remove in the Control Panel and doing a repair to your EMC9 installation.
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 07:37 AM

I see no fades or transitons applied to your song list only songs. Try fading them.

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 08:30 AM

No problem here

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 09:45 AM

I could have applied them,I did click on them to make sure I could.I would have gotten the same thing to show as Gary did.I just didn't choose one to apply.
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Posted 19 October 2006 - 03:06 PM

Well I guess i will uninstall and try to re-install and see if that fixes my problem because mine will not allow me to do what you both have shown.

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 01:40 PM

View Postwonder, on Oct 18 2006, 11:42 PM, said:

Okay I'll make this simpler - I am reusing the same exact songs (from my hard drive which I purchased the rights to burn as many times as I want) that I used before to build the same CD in Version 8


I'm interested - which service is that?
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