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[Johnny 5]

Hello peeps.

Okay, I am having problems with VW9.  But first, my PC specs:

HP Media Center PC m7334n
Windows XP Media Center SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 (~2.00GHz)
1GB RAM
Radeon X1300 512MB PCIe
250GB 7200 rpm SATA HDD
120GB 7200 rpm SATA HDD

All drivers are up to date, no AV/FW running.  Nothing else running in the background.

Okay.  I upgraded to 9 today because 8 kept giving me a memory access error, so I uninstalled it, after many failed attempts to fix the problem.  So I install 9, and it works great . . . except when outputting and burning.  Say I have a clip, and I output it to the HDD (File->Output As . . .) the clip will stutter and jump at the beginning and around transitions (both audio and video).  It will also, most of the time, start with a washed out look, get the color back after about 2 seconds, washout after about 4 seconds, get the color back after 10 seconds, et al.  IT only does it with Mpeg-2 Better Quality and Best Quality.  I would like to use one of these options, because the others just look crappy.

Can anyone help me figure this one out?  Thanks

[grandpabruce]

xxpigxx@gmail.com, on Oct 24 2006, 09:11 PM, said:

Hello peeps.

Okay, I am having problems with VW9.  But first, my PC specs:

HP Media Center PC m7334n
Windows XP Media Center SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 (~2.00GHz)
1GB RAM
Radeon X1300 512MB PCIe
250GB 7200 rpm SATA HDD
120GB 7200 rpm SATA HDD

All drivers are up to date, no AV/FW running.  Nothing else running in the background.

Okay.  I upgraded to 9 today because 8 kept giving me a memory access error, so I uninstalled it, after many failed attempts to fix the problem.  So I install 9, and it works great . . . except when outputting and burning.  Say I have a clip, and I output it to the HDD (File->Output As . . .) the clip will stutter and jump at the beginning and around transitions (both audio and video).  It will also, most of the time, start with a washed out look, get the color back after about 2 seconds, washout after about 4 seconds, get the color back after 10 seconds, et al.  IT only does it with Mpeg-2 Better Quality and Best Quality.  I would like to use one of these options, because the others just look crappy.

Can anyone help me figure this one out?  Thanks

Why don't you just save the production in VideoWave, without outputting it to anything?  Close VideoWave, open MyDVD, click on Add New Movie, browse to your saved file, and click on the Add button.

Your saved file will have a .dmsm extension on it.   Now you can do whatever authoring you want, then burn it to a DVD, an image file, or a folder set.  I recommend burning it to an image file or folder set, and uncheck the burn to disc option.

Once the file is done encoding, open Disc Copier, and burn your .ISO file or folder set, to a DVD, as a DVD movie.

Hopefully, this will solve your problem.

Edited by grandpabruce, 24 October 2006 - 06:46 PM.

[Johnny 5]

grandpabruce, on Oct 24 2006, 06:45 PM, said:

Why don't you just save the production in VideoWave, without outputting it to anything?  Close VideoWave, open MyDVD, click on Add New Movie, browse to your saved file, and click on the Add button.

Your saved file will have a .dmsm extension on it.   Now you can do whatever authoring you want, then burn it to a DVD, an image file, or a folder set.  I recommend burning it to an image file or folder set, and uncheck the burn to disc option.

Once the file is done encoding, open Disc Copier, and burn your .ISO file or folder set, to a DVD, as a DVD movie.

Hopefully, this will solve your problem.

It does not solve it.  The video comes out looking the same as it did in the output.

And my project is as follow:  I am making a football highlight reel, and am using VW to cut the good plays out.  I cut them one at a time, output them, and put all the clips together w/ transitions at the end of the season.  I did it last year on my old computer with VW8, and it worked great, but that computer was old and it sucked.  So I bought me this one, and then VideoWave started acting up.

Also, if it helps, when it is rendering, it starts in slow-mo, like it should, gets about 5 seconds in, then the preview window turns grey and sayas Mpeg on the bottom right side, then it goes back to slow-mo for the last 5 seconds or so.

Here is what the video comes out like.

Edited by Johnny 5, 24 October 2006 - 07:16 PM.

[ggrussell]

xxpigxx@gmail.com, on Oct 24 2006, 11:05 PM, said:

when it is rendering, it starts in slow-mo, like it should, gets about 5 seconds in, then the preview window turns grey and sayas Mpeg on the bottom right side, then it goes back to slow-mo for the last 5 seconds or so.

This is a GOOD thing.  This shows that MyDVD/Videowave is NOT re-rendering the video at all. It's only rendering those spots were you edited.

Not sure what I was supposed to be seeing, but looked like a football clip to me. I didn't see anything wrong. Didn't stutter. Although the entire thing was a little dark, both were about the same.  But I'll take your word on that.

One thing you can check. Have you run the graphics test?  Run MyDVD/Videowave. Under TOOLS / OPTIONS. Click the test button.  Does the radial button stay on 'hardware'?  It should with that card. As a TEST, force it to 'software' and render that clip again.  You will lose all the 3D transitions/effects though. Some users have noticed that software render works better.  Updated video card drivers and DirectX is very important.

Edited by ggrussell, 24 October 2006 - 08:19 PM.

[Johnny 5]

ggrussell, on Oct 24 2006, 08:17 PM, said:

This is a GOOD thing.  This shows that MyDVD/Videowave is NOT re-rendering the video at all. It's only rendering those spots were you edited.

Not sure what I was supposed to be seeing, but looked like a football clip to me. I didn't see anything wrong. Didn't stutter. Although the entire thing was a little dark, both were about the same.  But I'll take your word on that.

One thing you can check. Have you run the graphics test?  Run MyDVD/Videowave. Under TOOLS / OPTIONS. Click the test button.  Does the radial button stay on 'hardware'?  It should with that card. As a TEST, force it to 'software' and render that clip again.  You will lose all the 3D transitions/effects though. Some users have noticed that software render works better.  Updated video card drivers and DirectX is very important.

I have tried the test.  The button stayed.  I will try software.  BRB

Okay.  It got worse with Software.  

Link
I also have updated drivers and DX

Edited by Johnny 5, 24 October 2006 - 08:57 PM.

[ggrussell]

Turn hardware rendering back on. Go into the ATI settings and decrease the acceleration a notch or two. That's about all I can think of at the moment. You shouldn't have any trouble with that card with EMC9.

[Johnny 5]

ggrussell, on Oct 25 2006, 05:30 AM, said:

Turn hardware rendering back on. Go into the ATI settings and decrease the acceleration a notch or two. That's about all I can think of at the moment. You shouldn't have any trouble with that card with EMC9.

Still no luck  

I was able to use VideoReDo to cut the flies without the jumping around, but the color still washes out right beofre and after a transition.

Link

Edited by Johnny 5, 25 October 2006 - 08:26 AM.

[jeanrosenfeld]

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I was able to use VideoReDo to cut the flies without the jumping around, but the color still washes out right beofre and after a transition.

From that comment, I would suggests the problem arises from the transition. Which one are you using.?

[ggrussell]

Johnny 5, on Oct 25 2006, 11:54 AM, said:

but the color still washes out right beofre and after a transition.

I'm just not seeing the 'wash out' in any of the samples you posted  YouTube.  Maybe it's a display setting problem.

Edited by ggrussell, 25 October 2006 - 09:30 AM.

[sknis]

ggrussell, on Oct 25 2006, 12:29 PM, said:

I'm just not seeing the 'wash out' in any of the samples you posted YouTube. Maybe it's a display setting problem.

I also looked and could not see the wash out problem in 1 and 2 but did see something in 3, The wash out didn't occur just before and just after, it seems to be almost a second before and after. There seems to be a little jump, almost like there is a subliminal message there. You are not hypnotizing me are you? There are some of these that are not associated with the transition. If I watch 3, I see a glitch at about 2 seconds from the start and then about 9 seconds later. The first one is not near any transition.

I watched 1 again and saw the glitch again at about 2 seconds but not again. I did see some contrast changes.
I watched number two several times and them may be a slight glitch at about one second but is is very brief, much less than the other two.  I saw no contrast changes.   I thinks software is the way to go.

By the way I viewed the files on my old laptop.

Do you have your anti-virus running or anything that would  take some CPU time very quickly?

Edited by sknis, 25 October 2006 - 01:47 PM.

[grandpabruce]

sknis, on Oct 25 2006, 04:28 PM, said:

I also looked and could not see the wash out problem.  Sorry.

Add me to the list of not seeing a wash out problem.  Gary is correct, I think.  The OP may have a display setting problem.