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Blank Spots In Burned Cd

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Here's a first for me:

I have a commercially recorded CD that, when I try to copy one song off of it, I get a blank spot in the newly burned CD. I've replayed the original CD and nothing untoward occurs. I've attempted the process several times with the same result: same blank spot in the same song.

I've cleaned the commercial CD but that made no difference.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Could be a digitally protected disc. There are a few of them out there. :(

 

Roxio software is engineered so it won't copy protected discs, so you might have to play the track and capture the audio with an audiograbber.

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Brendon - thanks for answering. I've had protected discs before and they will not copy anything - it just sits there in the ICU until I remove it. So this, I think, would be a different issue - it's the only place on the entire CD that "skips" and that skip only lasts 2 seconds max. I have a friend with the same CD and he's bringing it over tomorrow to see if it does the same thing. I'll let you know what, if anything, we can surmise from this. Again, thanks. I was in Christchurch in 2012 - beautiful city even after the earthquake damage.

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Topics merged.

 

Rich, when you reply, don't start a new Topic to do it. Post it in this thread.

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Sorry, I read that as meaning this happened each time you copied a track, Rich. Thanks very much for clarifying it only happens at one spot on the disc.

 

Given the description I think it's a disc error, and that your friend's CD will work properly. I know players can correct CD errors if they're not too severe, and I think your player manages to correct it within the time allowed, but the digital copying routine is being tripped by the error, and leaving a hiccup.

 

I'd be very interested to see the result of your friend's visit, please.

 

Brendon

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It would also be interesting to try a different utility for ripping that track from your CD. You could try the free Exact Audio Copy (link) which may do a better job than the one in Creator NXT 2.

 

Just a thought, and I too think your friends CD may also work okay.

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To expand on what Brendon & d_deweywright have suggested.

 

Some drives are better or worse handling read errors.

 

So if you have more than one drive available try them.

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Okay, here's the skinny:

My friend's CD, when I burned it, had the exact same error at the exact spot. I also went back into my older burns and located an earlier burn of this same CD - and the same song had the same error - don't know why I didn't notice it at the time. Anyway, form a technocretin like myself, I don't think it's a

Roxio error, it's not a commercially produced CD error (unless it's the same on every CD), it's not a blank CD error so my last option is to locate another

computer with burn capabilities and attempt to burn it on that one. As an afterthought, anytime I'm confronted with something I cannot explain, I convince myself there's a little gremlin somewhere in my computer who's f---ing with me. Whaddya think?

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So your friend's commercially pressed CD played okay, but when you tried to copy it the copy had a 'pothole' in the exact same position? That's weird. Does the hole show when the copy is played in a different player?

 

There was a wonderful British author [Terry Pratchett] who created the magic equivalent of a polaroid camera in one of his books. It was a box with an Imp in it, and when you pressed the button the Imp would very quickly draw what he could see through the lens. The Imp could sometimes get very nasty. I think you might have one of those Imps in your box.

 

Seriously though, this one has me perplexed. I typically don't know how to stop until I get an answer, so I'd be inclined to try copying the CDs [1] on a different machine, and [2] on the same machine but with different software. I would also try the Roxio rippers to rip the CD to .WAV, and see if the .wav file has a hole in it when played back.. Then I'd try to make sense of those results.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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My friend's CD, when I burned it, had the exact same error at the exact spot.

 

 

What is the name of the CD and where was it purchased?

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Tracker by Mark Knopfler, selection #13 (My heart Has Never Changed)appx 35 seconds into the song. But the "pothole", as you called it, doesn't come across on the original, only the copies. If you think it'd help, I'll send you my original and a copy and you can take it from there. I can purchase another original. And thanks for your info on Terry Pratchett. I think he was the author of the Discworld series. Let me know if you want my CDs. R

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I think it is a blank spot mastered into the bought disc but shows up on a ripped burned disc!

 

I would try Dave's suggestion Exact Audio Copy.

 

Brendon lives in Christchurch, N.Z. I live in the US.

 

Either of us would like to take a crack at your disc if you would like to send it to one of us.

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Yes, the late Mr. Pratchett was indeed that author. :lol:

 

Thanks for the offer Rich, but we still have those other things to try first - EAC as Dave and Cdanteek suggest, or my suggestions in post #10

"I'd be inclined to try copying the CDs [1] on a different machine, and [2] on the same machine but with different software. I would also try the Roxio rippers to rip the CD to .WAV, and see if the .wav file has a hole in it when played back.."

 

You already have the Roxio rippers in Creator NXT2 in the Music/Audio menu.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Sorry for the long wait - here's an update....burned the CD in a different burner and with a different program and the "pothole had disappeared on the burned copy...I can get the name of the program if you need it. So, I'm guessing that the problem iseither in my computer or on my version of the Roxio software. Any guesses from your side?

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Yes, as suggested above, (a couple of times,) try extracting the tracks using Exact Audio Copy (EAC). It's a free program. You don't even have to write them to a disc, just rip them to a .WAV file, and listen the track in question and see if the problem goes away.

 

Do the same thing using the Roxio ripper. See if the problem exists in that version of the track. Then we'll know if the problem is in the way that the Roxio program rips the track from the disc.

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