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#1 joca

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 01:19 AM

Hi After a few years with the original NXT pro I have moved to NXT5 pro. I have been trying to produce a video for dvd that will play on most players.

I produce videos that are almost always over one hour so have to suffer some compression. Roxio agent suggested to render AVCHD (I have vixia HSF200 cam) which turned out to be 10 gig when I converted it to image file which became 4.1gig then to dvd it would not play on my player or even in my pc although the original video was fine on my PC.

So my question is :- within the long list of available files when going to export as what is the best format that will produce a reasonable quality dvd.


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 03:52 AM

Don't forget that even if you do everything right but you are using  poor quality blank DVDs, you may get a lot of failures.   TaiyoYuden JVC seem to have less failures while store brands and Memorex seem to have more.

 

Although you have a high definition camcorder, you did not say if you want to make standard DVDs or High Definition disc.  By making a standard DVD, you will lose much of the quality that you have from the camcorder..   You may not like the results and the bars around the video while played.

 

If you just want to make a standard DVD, just work with mpg2 format.  

 

An AVCHD disc will not hold much more than 40 minutes on a single layer disc.

 

For a blu ray disc, either AVCHD or mpg2 will work.  

 

Tell us step by step how you made the DVD that would not work (make sure you use the program item information -  Video Wave. MyDVD, Copy and Convert etc.

 

I would guess that almost all new DVD players being sold have the blu ray capability to keep the original quality.  You may have to buy from Roxio the ability to work with blu ray 


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 04:30 AM

Don't forget that even if you do everything right but you are using  poor quality blank DVDs, you may get a lot of failures.   TaiyoYuden JVC seem to have less failures while store brands and Memorex seem to have more.

 

Although you have a high definition camcorder, you did not say if you want to make standard DVDs or High Definition disc.  By making a standard DVD, you will lose much of the quality that you have from the camcorder..   You may not like the results and the bars around the video while played.

 

If you just want to make a standard DVD, just work with mpg2 format.  

 

An AVCHD disc will not hold much more than 40 minutes on a single layer disc.

 

For a blu ray disc, either AVCHD or mpg2 will work.  

 

Tell us step by step how you made the DVD that would not work (make sure you use the program item information -  Video Wave. MyDVD, Copy and Convert etc.

 

I would guess that almost all new DVD players being sold have the blu ray capability to keep the original quality.  You may have to buy from Roxio the ability to work with blu ray 

Thank you for your reply.

I think you have answered my question. I filmed a vid of a 1 and half hour show. I rendered as avchd (because that is what it defaulted) which made a 117 minute file I then in copy and convert converted as an image file then burnt a 4.7 gig dvd from the image which said it was 4.1 gig so I thought great but obviously it wasnt it didnt play on my player although blue ray I dont make blueray dvds then on my pc didnt register anything. I have some dual layer disks 8.5 gig so I wonder whether that would be worth a try what do you think . OR would you say I re render in another format then use the dual layer?


Edited by joca, 10 November 2016 - 05:16 AM.

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 05:53 AM

If you are making a standard definition DVD either single layer (a little over one hour) or a double layer DVD (a little less than 2 hours) then it will end up being in the mpg2 format.  Don;t do any more conversions than absolutely necessary.   By the way, if you look at a standard DVD, the video files are listed a having a VOB format.  VOB = mpg2.  When you go to burn, I always like to make image (ISO) files and then copy those to a disc.  That way you don;t waste discs if there is something wrong in the project or of you want to make multiple copies.

 

Always think time rather than MB when you are talking about video.


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 07:02 AM

NXT 5 Pro doesn't come with the BD Plugin you have to buy it extra, http://www.roxio.com...n/overview.html


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 07:50 AM

NXT 5 Pro doesn't come with the BD Plugin you have to buy it extra, http://www.roxio.com...n/overview.html

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 11:27 PM

OK further on  I have done my DVD now MPEG2 and on a Dual layer disk. One niggle when I play the dvd to review it its no problem BUT halfway through I fast forward say X 16 to get to another part it runs then stops and returns to the beginning. Question is this something to do with it being a dual player disk or have I cocked up somewhere in producing the disk.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 01:35 AM

If the disc will play right through when left at normal speed, then you have authored it properly.

 

If it resets and seeks back to the beginning when being played at high speed, then you're probably getting more read errors than the player can process.

That's a mechanical thing, and would suggest the player's having trouble reading that disc at that speed. A better quality blank disc, an optimal burn quality, a slower playback speed - all these things might help to some extent, but be please aware that a burned disc is not as easy to play as a commercially pressed one..


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 05:18 AM

If the disc will play right through when left at normal speed, then you have authored it properly.

 

If it resets and seeks back to the beginning when being played at high speed, then you're probably getting more read errors than the player can process.

That's a mechanical thing, and would suggest the player's having trouble reading that disc at that speed. A better quality blank disc, an optimal burn quality, a slower playback speed - all these things might help to some extent, but be please aware that a burned disc is not as easy to play as a commercially pressed one..

 

Yeah thanks for that seems my player is pants,

fast forward up to x 4 is ok

 

Edited to get reply out of the quote.


Edited by grandpabruce, 11 November 2016 - 05:27 AM.

Served in HM forces 1958-1960
Running windows 7 pro 64bit
Printer:- Canon Pixmia MG6250
Canon MFS200 Vixia HD camcorder

1 x Kingston 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Memory Kit CL9 1.65V
1 x AMD Phenom II1 X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3 3.2 GHz 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor
1 x Asus M5A88-M EVO Socket AM3+ onboard Graphics 8 channel Audio mATX Motherboard
1 x Powercool Modular 550W PSU 80+ Dual 12V V2.2 High Efficiency

1 x Samsung 128GB 830 series SSD SATA 6Gb/s
1 x Crucial 64GB M4 SSD - 2.5" SATA-III - Read 415MB/s Write 95MB/s -

1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW with DL and RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black
1 x Sapphire HD 6570 1GB DDR3 DVI VGA HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card


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Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
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Boot ROM Version: MBP71.0039.B0B
SMC Version (system): 1.62f6
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