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[k1vv@arrl.net]

I am a long time user of EASY CD , had both 5 and 6 and was satisfied with both. Recently bought EMC 8 and I am dissapointed with the copying speed which for CDs is 12X and DVDS 1.3X. When I had used Easy CD Creator 6 I could copy CDs at 32X and DVDs at 4X and 8X using 4X and 8X DVD media. I am using the same media DVDs that I could 4X copy speed with Easy CD 6 but only copy at 1.3X with EMC 8. I have downloaded and installed the EMC 8 update and I have disabled my Norton anitvirus software but that has not helped.

With Easy CD 6 I could copy a DVD in 15 minutes where now with EMC 8 it takes 45 minutes.

I am just about ready to uninstall EMC 8 and re-install Easy CD Creator 6 again.

Our Computer is a SONY VGC-RA820G , 180G hard drive, dual 3.2 G CPUs and 1 G of memory.

Any suggestions?  I would like to get EMC 8 to work as it should.

Bob D.  

[johnfitz3000]

I have the same issue.  Old versions of Roxio allowed me to write DVDs at 16x and now nothing faster than 2.1x.  What's going on?

[k1vv@arrl.net]

johnfitz3000, on Jan 23 2006, 02:19 PM, said:

I have the same issue.  Old versions of Roxio allowed me to write DVDs at 16x and now nothing faster than 2.1x.  What's going on?

Think they may have released 8 without enough testing, this seems to be a common problem. A bug.

[Larry]

johnfitz3000, on Jan 23 2006, 04:19 PM, said:

I have the same issue. Old versions of Roxio allowed me to write DVDs at 16x and now nothing faster than 2.1x. What's going on?

Typically this can be resolved by checking for a firmware update for your burner. EMC 8 will only give you options for burn speeds that your drive reports that it can burn at, given it's abilities and the disc you have in the drive.

[k1vv@arrl.net]

lbissonette, on Jan 23 2006, 02:45 PM, said:

Typically this can be resolved by checking for a firmware update for your burner. EMC 8 will only give you options for burn speeds that your drive reports that it can burn at, given it's abilities and the disc you have in the drive.

When I was using Easy CD creator 6 I was copying CDS at 32X and DVDS at 4X and 8X.

The only thing that was changed was installing EMC 8 and I am usung the SAME DVD media and with EMC 8 the copy speed dropped for CDs to 12X and DVD toi 1.3X.

The DVD copy drive had no problem copying at the higher speed with Easy CD Creator 6.

[Larry]

k1vv@arrl.net, on Jan 23 2006, 06:54 PM, said:

When I was using Easy CD creator 6 I was copying CDS at 32X and DVDS at 4X and 8X.

The only thing that was changed was installing EMC 8 and I am usung the SAME DVD media and with EMC 8 the copy speed dropped for CDs to 12X and DVD toi 1.3X.

The DVD copy drive had no problem copying at the higher speed with Easy CD Creator 6.

Drive support has evovled since v6 to a Dynamic Drive Detection process in v 7, 7.5 & now 8. Rather than using a list of supported drives with commands so that the software new what the drive should be able to burn at, which requires constant updating, the software queries (asks) the drive's firmware what it is capable of burning at based on it's capabilities and the disc that is inserted. This information that the drive reports is maintained by it's firmware. Which drive manufacturers typically put updates out for as new discs come out or to correct problems with existing discs. Thus, what you are seeing as being able to burn at is what your drive is 'saying' it can burn at given it's cpability and the brand/type of disc you have put in the drive. So as I mentioned before, check for a firmware update. The technology has changed.



BTW, this is typical of many of the major brands of burning software. They all seem to be trending towards this technology.

[k1vv@arrl.net]

lbissonette, on Jan 23 2006, 08:07 PM, said:

Drive support has evovled since v6 to a Dynamic Drive Detection process in v 7, 7.5 & now 8. Rather than using a list of supported drives with commands so that the software new what the drive should be able to burn at, which requires constant updating, the software queries (asks) the drive's firmware what it is capable of burning at based on it's capabilities and the disc that is inserted. This information that the drive reports is maintained by it's firmware. Which drive manufacturers typically put updates out for as new discs come out or to correct problems with existing discs. Thus, what you are seeing as being able to burn at is what your drive is 'saying' it can burn at given it's cpability and the brand/type of disc you have put in the drive. So as I mentioned before, check for a firmware update. The technology has changed.



BTW, this is typical of many of the major brands of burning software. They all seem to be trending towards this technology.

We have a Pioneer DVR-108 burner. We have not been able find any updates for the drive.
Since there does not seem to be a fix for EMC 8 to burn faster because our drive is telling to burn slower it looks like we will have to uninstall EMC 8 and reinstall Easy CD Creator 6 to be able to burn the CDs and DVDs at higher speeds as were able to do previously,so much for progress.

[grandpabruce]

k1vv@arrl.net, on Jan 24 2006, 04:52 AM, said:

We have a Pioneer DVR-108 burner. We have not been able find any updates for the drive.
Since there does not seem to be a fix for EMC 8 to burn faster because our drive is telling to burn slower it looks like we will have to uninstall EMC 8 and reinstall Easy CD Creator 6 to be able to burn the CDs and DVDs at higher speeds as were able to do previously,so much for progress.

What version firmware do you have for that burner?  Have you looked here, for a newer update?:

http://www.pioneerel...8163990,00.html

[Larry]

k1vv@arrl.net, on Jan 24 2006, 04:52 AM, said:

We have a Pioneer DVR-108 burner. We have not been able find any updates for the drive.
Since there does not seem to be a fix for EMC 8 to burn faster because our drive is telling to burn slower it looks like we will have to uninstall EMC 8 and reinstall Easy CD Creator 6 to be able to burn the CDs and DVDs at higher speeds as were able to do previously,so much for progress.

Firmware is different than drivers.
It looks like the most current firmware for the 108 is 1.20 Do you know what the current version of your firmware? If you don't know, open up EMC 8 Home screen, go to the Tools section and select the Disc Information section. Make sure the 108 drive is the selected one, and it will be listed up at the top.

You can get update information for Pioneer drives at the link Bruce posted. Make sure to review any and all instructions before downloading and applying any updates.

Edited by lbissonette, 24 January 2006 - 05:25 AM.

[cdanteek]

k1vv@arrl.net, on Jan 23 2006, 03:41 PM, said:

With Easy CD 6 I could copy a DVD in 15 minutes where now with EMC 8 it takes 45 minutes.


Our Computer is a SONY VGC-RA820G , 180G hard drive, dual 3.2 G CPUs and 1 G of memory.

Any suggestions?   Bob D.  

If nothing has changed except the software. I would check in device manager, right click properties on the ide channel your hard drive is on. See what DMA mode, sounds like you are in PIO mode. Reset to DMA if avaliable.

cdanteek

[mcalca1706]

I can only burn at a maximum of 4x with a a Teac 8X drive using name brand (Maxell, TDK, Philips 8X Media) 8X Media with version 8.  My firmware is the latest available and I am using DMA 2 not Pio. I was able to burn at 8X using Nero 6 with no problems.  

I had to search the web for fixes to problems and errors because although I registered with Roxio I cannot send a request for help. I just go around in circles on their site and get nowhere!

So far I am definitely not satisfied with the performance of this product or the lack of support by Roxio.

                             M. Calcagno

[cdanteek]

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I can only burn at a maximum of 4x with a a Teac 8X drive using name brand (Maxell, TDK, Philips 8X Media) 8X Media with version 8. My firmware is the latest available and I am using DMA 2 not Pio. I was able to burn at 8X using Nero 6 with no problems.

Would you do us a favor then? Open DVDInfoPro with one of these DVD's in the Teac drive, so we can see the info like below for the disc.

DVDINFOPro MCC 004 in 716                         Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    MCC     004
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Capacity                                                Blank Disc
Free Blocks                                                     405405696
Free Capacity                                              4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type                                                           DVD+R
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   16.0x 22160KBp
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 16.0x  22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 12.0x  16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  8.0x  11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  6.0x   8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                        
                           Complete Media Code                          
00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 .......MCC.....0
00000020 30 34 00 38 23 54 37 12 02 54 6C 02 92 5F 15 15 04.8#T7..Tl.._..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

cdanteek

[mcalca1706]

Hello
This is information for one of the blank Maxell DVD+R 8X Media I use.  Maxell, TDK and Philips 8X +R Media will will only burn at a maximum of 4X with a TEAC DVD+RW DV-W58E, using Easy Media Creator 8.   I forgot to mention that I updated the program from the Roxio Site. These dics all burned at 8X using Nero 6.


Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    CMC MAG E01
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Type                                                      UDF 1.02
Volume Name                                                   060629_2215
Application id                                                      PxMas
Implementation id                                                   PxMas
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy)                       6/29/2006 22:16:00
Format Capacity                                            4.35GB(4.68GB)
Book Type                                                         DVD-ROM
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   8.0x 11080KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              22D5FFh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                        
                           Complete Media Code                          
00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 D5 FF .............%..
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 45 .......CMC MAG.E
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 38 6A 02 88 67 15 15 01.8#T7..8j..g..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                                              Thank You
                                                                                              M. Calcagno

[grandpabruce]

mcalca1706, on Aug 18 2006, 09:55 PM, said:

Hello
This is information for one of the blank Maxell DVD+R 8X Media I use.  Maxell, TDK and Philips 8X +R Media will will only burn at a maximum of 4X with a TEAC DVD+RW DV-W58E, using Easy Media Creator 8.   I forgot to mention that I updated the program from the Roxio Site. These dics all burned at 8X using Nero 6.
Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    CMC MAG E01
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Type                                                      UDF 1.02
Volume Name                                                   060629_2215
Application id                                                      PxMas
Implementation id                                                   PxMas
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy)                       6/29/2006 22:16:00
Format Capacity                                            4.35GB(4.68GB)
Book Type                                                         DVD-ROM
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   8.0x 11080KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              22D5FFh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                        
                           Complete Media Code                          
00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 D5 FF .............%..
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 45 .......CMC MAG.E
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 38 6A 02 88 67 15 15 01.8#T7..8j..g..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                                              Thank You
                                                                                              M. Calcagno

When you see the words CMC Mag, dump the media.  It is no good.  Try Verbatim, or some other brand, except Memorex.

[cdanteek]

mcalca1706, on Aug 18 2006, 09:55 PM, said:

Hello
This is information for one of the blank Maxell DVD+R 8X Media I use.  Maxell, TDK and Philips 8X +R Media will will only burn at a maximum of 4X with a TEAC DVD+RW DV-W58E, using Easy Media Creator 8.   I forgot to mention that I updated the program from the Roxio Site. These dics all burned at 8X using Nero 6.
Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    CMC MAG E01
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Type                                                      UDF 1.02
Volume Name                                                   060629_2215
Application id                                                      PxMas
Implementation id                                                   PxMas
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy)                       6/29/2006 22:16:00
Format Capacity                                            4.35GB(4.68GB)
Book Type                                                         DVD-ROM
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   8.0x 11080KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              22D5FFh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                        
                           Complete Media Code                          
00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 D5 FF .............%..
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 45 .......CMC MAG.E
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 38 6A 02 88 67 15 15 01.8#T7..8j..g..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                                              Thank You
                                                                                              M. Calcagno

Do you see the difference?

Manufacturer Rated Speed 16.0x 22160KBp
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

Take Bruce's advice on the media issue!

cdanteek

[mcalca1706]

Just purchased a Plextor PX-760A and Easy Media Creator still crawls while Nero 6 burns at the rated media speeds.  This not a disc issue, EMC8 is slow no matter what media is used, even 16X Verbatim.

The drive has the latest firmware and EMC8 has also been updated. Verbatim, Maxell, Sony, Philips, RiData etc. no matter, still slow.  Nero 6 burns the same discs at rated speeds.

The drive is on Ultra DMA Mode 2 not Pio Mode.

This is obviously a problem with EMC8. Roxio support has been non-existent so far.  Although the software is registered I can't even send them an email because of a problem on their site.

                                                  

Is anybody getting fast burn speeds using EMC8 witha PLextor PX-760A?

                                                                                   Thank You
                                                                                M. Calcagno

[fabiom]

k1vv@arrl.net, on Jan 23 2006, 07:41 AM, said:

I am a long time user of EASY CD , had both 5 and 6 and was satisfied with both. Recently bought EMC 8 and I am dissapointed with the copying speed which for CDs is 12X and DVDS 1.3X. When I had used Easy CD Creator 6 I could copy CDs at 32X and DVDs at 4X and 8X using 4X and 8X DVD media. I am using the same media DVDs that I could 4X copy speed with Easy CD 6 but only copy at 1.3X with EMC 8. I have downloaded and installed the EMC 8 update and I have disabled my Norton anitvirus software but that has not helped.

With Easy CD 6 I could copy a DVD in 15 minutes where now with EMC 8 it takes 45 minutes.

I am just about ready to uninstall EMC 8 and re-install Easy CD Creator 6 again.

Our Computer is a SONY VGC-RA820G , 180G hard drive, dual 3.2 G CPUs and 1 G of memory.

Any suggestions?  I would like to get EMC 8 to work as it should.

Bob D.  

Ok now pay attention as i registered just so i could reply to your problem.

I too have been using easy cd creator 8 for some time and at first i also had problems with  burn speeds what i found was that you need to make sure that the bios sees the dvd-r drive otherwise windows xp will use it's emulator to talk to it and this slows the drive to a crawl.

As i bought a new recorder when i bought easy 8 , i had to uninstall the drive in xp , then boot the computer without the drive , then swicth off and connect up the drive again and then power up. xp should see the new drive and after that everything worked fine.

I need to mention that i run scsi drives not ide drives so both primary and seconday chains can have dvd drives on them, so last week i bought another identical burner pioneer 111d.

When i tried burning to both of these drives at the same time with the same image they burnt in 60 minuets when a normal burn lasts 8 minuets. I also have a demo copy of nero and it did the same thing.

I now know this was a hardware issue becuause i changed cables and because i use scsi i can make the burners anything i want ( master or slave on either chain ) I ran throught a few configurations making the drives slave or master connecting them both up to specifict connectors ( last or middle one ) etc.

I previously had two different round cables at different lengths , i replaced these with the asus cables that came with the MB and and found that the drives id's quicker , also i noticed that the drive set  to slave on the primary master did not id itself at boot time , windows xp would see the drive when it was working but the bios would not id the drive. So i set this to auto and saved the bios and rebooted into xp.

And it all worked i have burns up to 16x spin on verbatim . on both recorders .

I susgest that you try some of the things i have  mentioned here and if that fails see if you can borrow or buy a new burner.