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#1 nitronick

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 01:22 AM

I'm new to EMC9 (had it a few days now), got it because of the reported issues with IE7.

Videowave:-
Whilst working with this, if I add a picture (only tried a jpg) it is displayed destorted (although the picture is fine in other apps).

Mydvd
Default background pictures or my own are also displayed destorted. Or if I use a movie clip as an intro, then add a different button (the picture of the button) is destorted!

I have tried changing the display settings with no effect. I have not tried checking if there is a more up to date graphics driver. It's a new PC have have just installed the drivers for the onboard graphics from the ASUS mother board cd.

What it did think was strange, was that the picture was distorted on the burnt DVD too.

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 06:08 AM

What doyou mean by 'distorted?  Squished? Stretched?
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 06:27 AM

I'm trying to add a screen shot to better describe what is happing but my browser is telling me to enter a URL as this web page is running scripts.

Edited by nitronick, 13 December 2006 - 06:28 AM.


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Posted 13 December 2006 - 06:49 AM

Attachments in this forum is a feature that must be turned on by the administrator. You can insert a standard HTML reference if you have your own webspace to host the image.
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 06:57 AM

I think this may work :-

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 07:13 AM

To me that looks like an incorrect line speed - did you check the settings to make sure it was set to PAL?

This btw is a common misnomer - PAL and NTSC actually refer to the COLOUR specs and not the TV frame/line rate - UK standard (and all of Europe except France and Russia) use 625 lines at 25 fps - the US standard is 525 line at 30 fps
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#7 nitronick

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 07:31 AM

View Postgi7omy, on Dec 13 2006, 07:13 AM, said:

To me that looks like an incorrect line speed - did you check the settings to make sure it was set to PAL?

This btw is a common misnomer - PAL and NTSC actually refer to the COLOUR specs and not the TV frame/line rate - UK standard (and all of Europe except France and Russia) use 625 lines at 25 fps - the US standard is 525 line at 30 fps

I'm not at my Pc (running EMC9) at the moment but from memory the only settings that I changed were:-
1/ In Videowave, when I first added a 'photo/video' I could select PAL & 4: or 16:9 there.

2/ In MyDvd, before burning I could change settings like NTSC or PAL, bitrate, audio settings etc (I left it as PAL

Are there global settings somewhere in the suite that I have to set?

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 11:49 AM

A screen shot from videowave-
The picture itself opens up ok in the roxio photosuit!

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 11:59 AM

That's definitely an incorrect line speed - think of the old days when you had to adjust the horizontal hold control.
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 12:14 PM

Wait -- is this a JPEG??? If it is saved as a progessive JPEG, that could be the reason.  Load it back into Photosuite and SAVE AS. Make sure it is JPEG standard or optimized.
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 12:40 PM

gi7omy - Its great that you seem to know that ist an incorrect line speed but I don't know how to change this LOL.

ggrussell. I tried doing a save as in photosuite but couldn't see how you make the picture 'standard' or 'optimized'!

In any case, I also tried a bpm & got the same effect + remember I get the same effect with one of EMC9's own backgrounds in Mydvd
?????? Confused??????

I have also checked my S3 Via intergated pro graphics settings & driver date which all seem to be present & correct.
I feel it is something in Roxio as distorted picture carried through to DVD burn (but then what do I know LOL).

Could it be the dreaded IE7??

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 01:49 PM

I spotted it - after 40 years in electronics servicing I ought to know what line slip looks like :)

It has more to do with some setting on your machine when you render. Off the top of my head I can't think what it may be but it looks as if it's actually running too fast
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 06:01 AM

View Postnitronick, on Dec 13 2006, 03:40 PM, said:

ggrussell. I tried doing a save as in photosuite but couldn't see how you make the picture 'standard' or 'optimized'!
Sorry I use other editing software.  In Photosuite, FILE / SAVE AS.  You then have to select teh JPG file type in the bottom drop-down list.  THEN in the far right, click OPTIONS.  CHOOSE INTERLACED.

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 06:10 AM

I don't know how good that onboard video chip is, but that may be a problem, too, since EMC 9 relies on a good video card.

What Asus motherboard do you have?
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 06:35 AM

You can tell I've got an ASUS motherboard? :-)

I have not got the spec to hand (it's at home).

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 06:47 AM

View Postnitronick, on Dec 14 2006, 08:35 AM, said:

You can tell I've got an ASUS motherboard? :-)

I have not got the spec to hand (it's at home).

It's a new PC have have just installed the drivers for the onboard graphics from the ASUS mother board cd.  

From your first post in this thread.
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 06:50 AM

What a silly sod I am

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 06:56 AM

Dont' recall ever seeing this problem before, but after looking at this again, I think it is the video chipset.  The preview uses the 'video overlay' of the display memory.  He PMed me that the mobo had a VIA S3 chipset with only 64MB of memory.  If he can increase the video memory in the BIOS, it 'might' help, but installing a better video card that fully supports DirectX 9 would be a better solution.
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 10:31 AM

View Postggrussell, on Dec 14 2006, 08:56 AM, said:

Dont' recall ever seeing this problem before, but after looking at this again, I think it is the video chipset.  The preview uses the 'video overlay' of the display memory.  He PMed me that the mobo had a VIA S3 chipset with only 64MB of memory.  If he can increase the video memory in the BIOS, it 'might' help, but installing a better video card that fully supports DirectX 9 would be a better solution.

I would bet that increasing the video memory isn't going to help.  My advice is to get a dedicated video card, 256 MB, if possible, 128 MB minimum.
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 02:27 PM

Still poking around trying to solve my roxio problems.
I've now tested EMC9 on work PC with an NVIDIA Quadro FX card (& sorted out the CD problems) & found that their are no distorted picture problems.
So I guess this is looking like I need a dedicated video card?
A few observations though.......

I've read that if the software dosn't think your hardware is up to scratch it changes the setting of the graphics to 'software'...mine is still set to hardware!

I appear to have the latest driver for the S3 intergarted graphics.

My system is running IE7 & the work pc has IE6 (Well I think it now has that after taking pc back to an earlier restore point to retrieve cd drives etc).
I guess the next thing is to add IE7 on work pc to see if it messes things up and/or try a dedicated grapgics card.

This may be a seperate issue but I've noticed on my C: drive I have what appears to be the entire suite of Roxio 7.5 in a folder "Roxio Easy media creator 7.5 ESD' as well as the EMC9 in a 'Roxio' file within the 'Program' folder.
There is not an entry in the 'add/remove' programs list to remove EMC7.5????




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