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Using Memorex Double Layer, DVD+ disks on my TSST/MadDog Mega Stor - Triple format internal drive (Model MD-18XTFI)
When a burn a 2 hour movie using whole disk (8.5GB) the movie either stutters or stops completely just after the 1 hour point on my year old Panasonic DVD player. It plays fine on the DVD burner/player in my computer.
My assumption is there is a problem in writing that second layer (that is, if it burns the entire first layer before going to the second). I have considered changing the burn speed to a slower speed, but that does not appear to be an option.
When I burn the same movie and use only half the disk (4.7GB - which I am guessing means only the first layer) it runs fine - even into and past the first hour.
Suggestions?
Thanks
Stephen
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 10:46 AM
Well, the one burned on half the disk played well - until it got to1 hour and 25 minutes -it began to stutter and then skipped to the end and quit. Well, so much for my idea of a second layer problem. Now where am I If I want ot burn anything past 1 hour?
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 10:52 AM
The last Memorex DVD+R DL, I looked at were RITEK D01 (001)
and the burn speed was only 2.4X. Here is one below. Open DVDInfo Pro in Roxio 8 tools and look!
CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD+R DL
Book Type : DVD+R DL
Manufacturer: : Ritek
MID : RITEK D01 (001)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X
Blank Capacity : 7.96 GB
: 8152 MB
: 8547993600 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 2
Layer break : 3.98 GB
Write strategies : n/a
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF 00 22 D7 FF - ..2.........."..
0010 - 00 00 00 52 49 54 45 4B 00 00 00 44 30 31 01 40 - ...RITEK...D01.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0C 00 28 64 00 28 64 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 - %%7..(d.(d......
0030 - 02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 - ................
cd
and the burn speed was only 2.4X. Here is one below. Open DVDInfo Pro in Roxio 8 tools and look!
CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD+R DL
Book Type : DVD+R DL
Manufacturer: : Ritek
MID : RITEK D01 (001)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X
Blank Capacity : 7.96 GB
: 8152 MB
: 8547993600 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 2
Layer break : 3.98 GB
Write strategies : n/a
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF 00 22 D7 FF - ..2.........."..
0010 - 00 00 00 52 49 54 45 4B 00 00 00 44 30 31 01 40 - ...RITEK...D01.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0C 00 28 64 00 28 64 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 - %%7..(d.(d......
0030 - 02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 - ................
cd
cd
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 10:53 AM
winstephen, on Dec 19 2006, 01:46 PM, said:
Well, the one burned on half the disk played well - until it got to1 hour and 25 minutes -it began to stutter and then skipped to the end and quit. Well, so much for my idea of a second layer problem. Now where am I If I want ot burn anything past 1 hour?
Stephen
Stephen
If it works fine on your computer then the Roxio software has done its job.
Try a different brand of media. I also assume that your Panasonic player supports DVD + media.
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 11:03 AM
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If it works fine on your computer then the Roxio software has done its job.
That theory is wrong and I have proved it wrong to myself often!
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14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
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7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB) CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)
13.Click here Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 11:41 AM
cdanteek, on Dec 19 2006, 01:03 PM, said:
That theory is wrong and I have proved it wrong to myself often!
cd
cd
Care to explain that?
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 01:06 PM
'Twould seem my super-duper Panasonic is the culprit. It will read DVD-R, but the docs do not say whether or it will not read DVD+R (It for sure will not read DVD-RW or DVD+RW). Therefore, my guess is the problem lies in the DVD player.
Thanks for sending me there to check things.... DUH! When all else fails, RTFM!
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Thanks for sending me there to check things.... DUH! When all else fails, RTFM!
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 01:40 PM
Strangely enough - it's the cheap and cheerful DVD players (usually made by A.Non of Taiwan) that have the most success in playing home-brew DVDs
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DVD-R or DVD+R ...... Question .... How does a setop DVD player know the difference if you put the same files on them ? I don't undertand, I've used both types with the same video and my DVD players work fine with either one. Are they made from different material or what, if so, what difference would that make. In my mind the player is reading the files on the disc no matter what the media type. Am I missing something here? Maybe someone would be so kind as to explain please. Thanks!
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Posted 21 December 2006 - 02:26 PM
The Seif, on Dec 21 2006, 11:20 AM, said:
DVD-R or DVD+R ...... Question .... How does a setop DVD player know the difference if you put the same files on them ? I don't undertand, I've used both types with the same video and my DVD players work fine with either one. Are they made from different material or what, if so, what difference would that make. In my mind the player is reading the files on the disc no matter what the media type. Am I missing something here? Maybe someone would be so kind as to explain please. Thanks!
Go into Google (or your favorite browser) and type in dvd.
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