[kirkifer]

Hello Gang,

I am wanting to capture old analog VHS-C in the best resolution that is possible with an average consumer PC system. (That should be general enough ??? ) Ideally, some sort of AVI or DV format (least compressed) is what I want to start editing.

While Roxio supports ATI, finding an All-in-wonder is proving to be a little difficult. So, I am now looking at the various internal cards made by Pinnacle. Roxio apparently does not openly support Pinnacle products. I found one posting indicating that the Pinnacle cards work with Roxio, but before laying my money down, I would like some additional confirmation.

What I want are opinions of how well Pinnacle cards work with the Roxio software. Any opinions positive or negative are appreciated.

[malatekid]

Supported capture card devices:

http://kb.roxio.com/...reator/000067CR

[sknis]

kirkifer, on Dec 22 2006, 07:52 AM, said:

Hello Gang,

I am wanting to capture old analog VHS-C in the best resolution that is possible with an average consumer PC system. (That should be general enough ??? ) Ideally, some sort of AVI or DV format (least compressed) is what I want to start editing.

While Roxio supports ATI, finding an All-in-wonder is proving to be a little difficult. So, I am now looking at the various internal cards made by Pinnacle. Roxio apparently does not openly support Pinnacle products. I found one posting indicating that the Pinnacle cards work with Roxio, but before laying my money down, I would like some additional confirmation.

What I want are opinions of how well Pinnacle cards work with the Roxio software. Any opinions positive or negative are appreciated.

I use a Pinnacle A/D card and it works well to capture either avi or mpg2. I got the card about three years ago as part of Studio 9. Unfortunately many companies "adjust" their A/D card to works well with their software (read doesn't work with other software) so I don't know if a new card would work well or not.

My experience. Capturing with an A/D card and a sound card that are not perfectly matched can give out of sync capture usually not noticeable until about 15 minutes into the capture. If you are considering this, limit you captures to about that length. You can add the captures together seamlessly later.
If you use a USB type device (like the VCD 90), I have not seen the sync issues but, again in my experience, the video seems somewhat soft. I use both depending on what I want the final production to look like.

[kirkifer]

sknis, on Dec 22 2006, 03:25 PM, said:

Unfortunately many companies "adjust" their A/D card to works well with their software (read doesn't work with other software)

RIGHT ON !!!! That is why I was asking. Roxio does not support those cards. I had an old Dazzle Hollywood DV Bridge that does the infamous 1 minute 03 second capture in AVI. I did not want another card that did the same thing.

My Hauppauge card works great, but I really want to capture raw footage in AVI or DV or something less compressed than MPEG.

I would like an ATI All-in-Wonder, a Roxio supported card, but try and find one. I do not think I want a used one.... (overclocking issues, etc.)

This post has been edited by kirkifer: 22 December 2006 - 04:16 PM

[dlebryk]

My experience - I've used a DVC150 for quite a few years to capture analog video. Excellent results, good solid video quality good sound, and convert to DVD's very nicely.

Where I got in trouble was trying to use Roxio software to edit the video (honestly, just about any video source has not worked, TiVO files, MPegs, AVI's, you name it). It's just flat out never worked well at all. I've been through two different computers with extremely different technologies, and I don't know how many version of Creator / EMC - maybe all the way back to version 6. Sync problems have always been an issue with the Roxio software. Performance has been sad. And I've wasted a ton of time trying to make it work.

What has worked, sticking first with the Pinnacle software to edit the video. Then using MyDVD, or Click to DVD (Sony Vaio bundled software) to master the DVD.

So to answer your question - I'd look for a video capture card you like and can afford. Use that bundle to do the editing. Then use Roxio to make your DVD with menus (that at least seems to work well). Remember your VHS-C is pretty darn low resolution to begin with.

By the way, what about using a digital camcorder with Composite (yellow video cable) in to do the analog conversion? That works extremely well.

[grandpabruce]

dlebryk, on Dec 28 2006, 11:55 AM, said:

My experience - I've used a DVC150 for quite a few years to capture analog video. Excellent results, good solid video quality good sound, and convert to DVD's very nicely.

Where I got in trouble was trying to use Roxio software to edit the video (honestly, just about any video source has not worked, TiVO files, MPegs, AVI's, you name it). It's just flat out never worked well at all. I've been through two different computers with extremely different technologies, and I don't know how many version of Creator / EMC - maybe all the way back to version 6. Sync problems have always been an issue with the Roxio software. Performance has been sad. And I've wasted a ton of time trying to make it work.

What has worked, sticking first with the Pinnacle software to edit the video. Then using MyDVD, or Click to DVD (Sony Vaio bundled software) to master the DVD.

So to answer your question - I'd look for a video capture card you like and can afford. Use that bundle to do the editing. Then use Roxio to make your DVD with menus (that at least seems to work well). Remember your VHS-C is pretty darn low resolution to begin with.

By the way, what about using a digital camcorder with Composite (yellow video cable) in to do the analog conversion? That works extremely well.

I have NEVER had an audio/sync problem in EMC 7, EMC 7.5, EMC 8 or EMC 9.