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Lynn - you have to remember that broadcast stations pump out a LOT more RF power than we're allowed to - I can hear a lot perfectly clearly - doesn't mean tho that I can work into those areas.

 

Frank - the real problem atm is that we're right at the bottom of the solar cycle (and the one good thing there is that it can only go up from here on). The NASA prediction for peak btw is 2010 with a predicted sunspot number of 140-190 - now THAT will have even 6 and 10 metres hopping.

 

I usea nice program to check propagation - if you want to give it a try - go here:

 

http://www.g4ilo.com/software.html

 

and download voaprop

 

(Lynn - it also gives a propagation overview on the broadcast bands so you can see what your favourite station reception is likely to be. You really want to invest in a good comms receiver with SSB and CW in addition to AM/FM so you can tune in and listen to us lot as well) :)

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Lynn - you have to remember that broadcast stations pump out a LOT more RF power than we're allowed to - I can hear a lot perfectly clearly - doesn't mean tho that I can work into those areas.

 

(Lynn - it also gives a propagation overview on the broadcast bands so you can see what your favourite station reception is likely to be. You really want to invest in a good comms receiver with SSB and CW in addition to AM/FM so you can tune in and listen to us lot as well) :)

Don't overlook that, like Frank, I'm on the Pacific coast - it's all saltwater from here to New Zealand and Australia.

 

I now check the BBC on http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi.html

 

The SW set is mostly used for WWV/WWVH - don't need a flashlight to check the time in the middle of the night :huh:

 

Lynn

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Propagation Lynn is more to do with the refractive index in the ionosphere than the salt water end Lynn - if the signal shoots through the ionosphere it won't get reflected back down to salt water for the next skip :)

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Propagation Lynn is more to do with the refractive index in the ionosphere than the salt water end Lynn - if the signal shoots through the ionosphere it won't get reflected back down to salt water for the next skip :)

I'm aware of propagation, Daithi - and the sunspot cycle - but saltwater helps. You have a continent in the way betwoon you and New Zealand. If the downbounce hits lands, it loses a lot of power.

 

The link I gave above, tho, works quite well despite the sunspots. Power outages might be a disaster,tho :huh:

 

Lynn

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You can get a lot of odd things happen Lynn - I remember one summer night a lot of years back when staying in our mobile home at the foot of the Mourne Mountains here when the troposphere went crazy - a duct opened and I could hear a LOT of 2 metre FM repeaters coming up - I just hit the tone-burst button and called out for repeater ID - got a VERY surprised GJ7 callsign (Jersey in the Channel Islands) coming back telling me I was on the Torquay repeater - then to make it even better, a G4 (English) call broke in to tell me that I was 'breaking squelch' on the input in the Dartmoor area - and could I hold on until he found some higher ground. Unfortunately the duct started to close just after that. :)

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You're right about odd things happening Daithi. I worked a station in England (a retired cop) on the 80 meter band one time from San Diego. As I remember it was like 7:00 AM in the morning and he had just got off work. And my antenna for that band was an inverted "V" dipole. Normally on that band I was only working stations within 100 miles or so of my place. I asked and received a QSL card from him just to prove I had worked him on the 80 meter band.

 

What's your call sign Daithi ? And Lynn, are you an amatuer also ?

 

Frank...(WA6EAG--Advanced Class License)

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What's your call sign Daithi ? And Lynn, are you an amatuer also ?

 

Frank...(WA6EAG--Advanced Class License)

 

ROFLMAO

 

Frank - look at my log-in name and ask that again :)

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Frank...

Yeah Patty, when this one dude kept say "Botel" to me, I thought he was asking me about some "brothel" or something of that nature :huh::D:D But I finally figured out he was talking about a "bottle"--

 

 

 

Very good Frank :D:D , also like the term "frap" but then there were words I used that they didn't understand so I guess it all evens out. :)

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What's your call sign Daithi ? And Lynn, are you an amatuer also ?

 

Frank...(WA6EAG--Advanced Class License)

Note that the BBC, Radio Nederlands, VOA, etc, are freely available on SW - rather like AM or FM except you have to be aware of the sun and the seasons as to which frequency you use.

 

Lynn

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Lynn - my Yaesu covers 0 - 30 MHz continuous on receive (that's long, medium and short waves) plus the 6 metre and 2 metre VHF bands and also the 70 cM band - and is AM, FM, Wideband FM, SSB and CW :)

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"ROFLMAO

 

Frank - look at my log-in name and ask that again :) "

 

DUHHH--O.K. Daithi, I guess that is pretty dumb of me to not recognize your call sign. Hey, give me a break. It's been 20 years or more since I worked anything on the bands :D:D:D . Just looking through some old (and I mean OLD) QSL cards for any "G" calls I worked and came across one--"G3HUR". The amatuers name was "D.W. Brough". and the date was April 8, 1971. I had a signal strength (RST) of 5/8 and was on 21327 Mhz. This guy lived in "Cheshire", where ever that is ??? :D There might be the chance that a lot of the amatuers I worked way back when may be all dead by now--LOL. I might just be the last one around !! :huh::D:D

 

"...also like the term "frap""

 

That's a good one to Patty. Like you said, it all evens out I guess.

 

Frank....

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Lynn - my Yaesu covers 0 - 30 MHz continuous on receive (that's long, medium and short waves) plus the 6 metre and 2 metre VHF bands and also the 70 cM band - and is AM, FM, Wideband FM, SSB and CW :)

My SONY ICF 2002 covers 150Khz-30MHz (plus FM) - not quite as wide, but close.

 

My comments were more for Frank.

 

Lynn

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Thanks for the website link Lynn. That's a nice looking receiver.

 

Frank...

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My one is here Lynn

http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=Displ...mp;isArchived=0

 

btw - the European version of your rig comes with a multi-input voltage power supply - dunno why you don't get one over there

The US and Canada have the same type power supply, and maybe Mexico as well. No adapters needed unless one is visiting, say, Europe :)

 

Lynn

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Until I checked the actual picture of the beam, I was amazed at how much they said it weighed. Then I see where it's all fiber glass. Having a 33 foot span I thought it would probably weigh way more than that. Checking the spec's on each one, I think I would go for the cheaper one as they both have about the same spec's except for the bands available. The three element one has a little better SWR. I always liked to have mine at around 1.1:1. The 10 mtr. band, as you probably already know is really suseptable to the sun spot activity and although I have worked many stations on 10 mtr., it never was as good as the 15 mtr. band as far as I was concerned. The 20 Mtr. band is also one that I really liked too.

 

The beam or yagi looks exactly like a vertical "quad" antenna that I made once. Looks like they just layed it horizontal. BTW, looking at the radiation diagrams, you better have a decent antenna rotator as it sure wouldn't be that good if you didn't have it pointed at the same location you wanted to work all the time.

 

Boy, the vertical mast they had the one in the picture sitting on sure looked pretty flimsy to me. I'd much rather have it sitting on an aluminum tower of some kind. but at that low weight and guying it at several locations I guess would probably be O.K.

 

There's a 3 element tri-band beam (Wilson) sitting in my Father-In-Law's barn that has never been taken out of the box it came in. To bad you're not close by. I'd give it to you. Since my Father-In-Law just passed away 2 months ago, all his amature gear we are just going to sell at a yard sale, or Garage sale as we call it here.

There's a beautiful looking huge old Amplifier tube that I gave him years ago that I was going to make a table lamp out of, but then decided it was just to much trouble. it is a "250TL" No one has any any more, so it's a real antique :)

 

Frank...

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There's a 3 element tri-band beam (Wilson) sitting in my Father-In-Law's barn that has never been taken out of the box it came in. To bad you're not close by. I'd give it to you. Since my Father-In-Law just passed away 2 months ago, all his amature gear we are just going to sell at a yard sale, or Garage sale as we call it here.

There's a beautiful looking huge old Amplifier tube that I gave him years ago that I was going to make a table lamp out of, but then decided it was just to much trouble. it is a "250TL" No one has any any more, so it's a real antique :huh:

 

Frank...

Have you considered eBay? :) That's where the collectors who know the value of such stuff are.

 

Lynn

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Have you considered eBay? :) That's where the collectors who know the value of such stuff are.

 

Lynn

 

 

Good advice Frank, I bet Lynn would even give you a pointer or two!

 

cd

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"Have you considered eBay?"

 

Thanks for the thought Lynn, but I have no interest in selling anything on ebay. When I have items that are no longer any good to me and/or I have something that someone else can use, and really needs it, I get great joy in giving such things away as gifts. When we have our "garage sale" I will most likely give most of the old stuff away to the person I think can use it the most at some rediculus price.. To me, money is just not a president when it comes to those kinds of things.

 

Cheers

Frank....

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Actually Lynn, things like three element tri-banders aren't really 'collectors' items' - more very specialised ones

 

Over here we'd bring them to a radio rally (or hamfest I think you lot call them) and the normal practice is to set up a stand as a 'silent key' sale - all the equipment is sold as a reasonable figure and the proceeds are given to the relatives

 

Did you try that Voaprop yet Frank - I just ran it up as I tyope and for my setup it looks like I could expect an S5 signal from Bangor in Maine up to Labrador (like I'd get past the big guns from Italy and Germany with their 1KW plus linears) :)

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Guru drift.......... anyone for splitting this one?

 

 

Actually ml - I started the topic (and the drift) :)

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Actually ml - I started the topic (and the drift) :)

I agree it shd be split or we'll be sayilng Happy New Year for months :huh:

 

Lynn

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I apologize to the General Chat forum for helping to continue this "drifted" thread.

 

Frank....

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