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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:50 PM

Would like to talk to someone more about this TV safe zone. I have discovered that the top of my video which is mpeg-2 is being cut off and no more. I have also discovered this with photos I noticed in my DVD in the project. Setting there are a couple of different sizes for the video. Can someone explain to me what this means I am in New Zealand, so I'm using PAL TV system.

Thanks in advance Michelle
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

The 'safe zone' on 625 line 25 fps TVs refers to the 5% overscan at picture edges Michelle.

What the guy in the workshop does (if he can even FIND a testcard these days) is to set it up so the the castellations at the corners go just off screen.

As a TV tube isn't a true square (there is a curve at corners) setting the overrscan there means that you aren't left with black bits ate top, bottom and side centres.

Check that your TV is not displaying any trace of black at the top in broadcast - you may have to alter settings in the mpg file tho - but that's way outside my area (I'll answer TV questions all day long tho) :)
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:05 PM

View Postgi7omy, on Jan 2 2007, 12:54 PM, said:

The 'safe zone' on 625 line 25 fps TVs refers to the 5% overscan at picture edges Michelle.

What the guy in the workshop does (if he can even FIND a testcard these days) is to set it up so the the castellations at the corners go just off screen.

As a TV tube isn't a true square (there is a curve at corners) setting the overrscan there means that you aren't left with black bits ate top, bottom and side centres.

Check that your TV is not displaying any trace of black at the top in broadcast - you may have to alter settings in the mpg file tho - but that's way outside my area (I'll answer TV questions all day long tho) :)

since I put that message out, I realised in the capture program that I was using. The MPeg-2 is set to 720 x 576, and in my DVD. The biggest size, I see there is 720 by 572 Michelle
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:09 PM

Can you increase the resolution on the capture program?
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:15 PM

View Postgi7omy, on Jan 2 2007, 01:09 PM, said:

Can you increase the resolution on the capture program?

when I play the video on the computer it is okay as far as not cutting the top of the picture off that seems to be the setting in my DVD, which does not have the same settings, and also the top and bottom of the screen and the right hand end of the screen does have a bit of black Michelle
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:28 PM

That could be the TV itself (picture not correctly centred) - without actually seeing it and sticking my hands in the back, I can't be 100% certain - sorry
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:34 PM

View Postgi7omy, on Jan 2 2007, 01:28 PM, said:

That could be the TV itself (picture not correctly centred) - without actually seeing it and sticking my hands in the back, I can't be 100% certain - sorry

thank you everyone just have to hope the part of the picture, which is being cut off at the top will not be noticed. It must be something to do with the TV set, as we have two of the same brand same model boasts of them seem to have black around the outside. Thanks again, but one thing I have noticed about the television safe zone it is shows more account of that actually does show on the TV screen at top and bottom. But the left-hand side of the safe zone seems to be roughly right. Thanks again
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:56 PM

Want to find out EXACTLY how much over that your TV has? Copy the image below into a MyDVD project. Set the image for like 5min soyou'll have time to look at it good. Check the % on all four sides. Dont recall where I got this - off the net somewhere.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:22 PM

View Postmissnz, on Jan 2 2007, 12:50 PM, said:

Would like to talk to someone more about this TV safe zone. I have discovered that the top of my video which is mpeg-2 is being cut off and no more. I have also discovered this with photos I noticed in my DVD in the project. Setting there are a couple of different sizes for the video. Can someone explain to me what this means I am in New Zealand, so I'm using PAL TV system.

Thanks in advance Michelle

thank you, I will try that to save my discs, I will get a rewritable as I can experiment with the photos as well, let programme seems a very interesting programme. I can see, you can actually decide what part of the photo will be cut off/out side the screen zone. Thanks again
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