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[shueardm]

Corel/Ulead announcement

The war has begun and ROXIO needs to step up to the plate I think. Can't bank on people going Blu Ray because it's got more space as this Ulead product uses VC-1 not Mpeg2, they essentially will be hold the same amount of HD video.

I want more from ROXIO (I know it's just been released) but put your foot down and give people a reason to choose you and Blu Ray.

I think the two main priorities you should have are.
1. Make another codec useable (prefer H.264)
2. Make Dual Layer compatible.

3. Then add DTS and DTS HDHD support

That will keep my happy for a while.  

[pixel]

Its just an announcement and not a real product already... and there is actually no HD-DVD burner available...

[shueardm]

Which is why I wrote "almost here"
Isn't the Toshiba HD-DVD available in the states now? or very soon.

[mmace]

shueardm, on Jan 13 2007, 02:54 AM, said:

Which is why I wrote "almost here"
Isn't the Toshiba HD-DVD available in the states now? or very soon.

I think Roxio need to iron out problems with current version of the software before adding more features, and it's not up to roxio to push blu-ray, they could also release HD-DVD software once the new burners are actually out

but 1st I'd like a trouble free version of DVDit Pro HD (reinstalled Windows and still having ALL my problems!) and for discs made with the software to work in the PS3 and other BD players (I think this is a must!)

[SS Scott]

discs working with PS3 and BD players other than Panasonic, Pioneer and the unmodified Samsung is up to those manufacturers.  the discs are fully legal and we are pushing to have wider support of BDMV on BD-R, but at the end of the day, we make the software, not the hardware.

as to your problems maff, they are by and large unique.  I do not know why you are seeing such a breadth of issues and others are not seeing those on their systems.

[mmace]

SS Scott, on Jan 13 2007, 09:50 AM, said:

as to your problems maff, they are by and large unique.  I do not know why you are seeing such a breadth of issues and others are not seeing those on their systems.

'cos I'm special!

ha ha, seriously, I think I am trying such a range of discs from basic with no menu & 1 video, to menu with 3 HD 2 hour films to my main project which has 14 menus 8 HD videos and 100+ SD videos (something which before I had on 5 DVD's but now want on 1 BD with some HD material too - these could be the reason why I'm seeing more issues than others, depends what projects others are working on

[shueardm]

Yup, it's strange how a few people have the bad luck. I have ZERO problems, NO ERRORS, trouble free.

[plee]

mmace, on Jan 13 2007, 10:01 AM, said:

'cos I'm special!

ha ha, seriously, I think I am trying such a range of discs from basic with no menu & 1 video, to menu with 3 HD 2 hour films to my main project which has 14 menus 8 HD videos and 100+ SD videos (something which before I had on 5 DVD's but now want on 1 BD with some HD material too - these could be the reason why I'm seeing more issues than others, depends what projects others are working on

Yes...he's special  

I think till the PS3 can handle the BDMV on BD-R/RE, I will play with DVDit and have stuff ready to burn.  Until then I will have to work with the Cyberlink to proof my encoded videos  

SS Scott, on Jan 13 2007, 09:50 AM, said:

discs working with PS3 and BD players other than Panasonic, Pioneer and the unmodified Samsung is up to those manufacturers.  the discs are fully legal and we are pushing to have wider support of BDMV on BD-R, but at the end of the day, we make the software, not the hardware.

as to your problems maff, they are by and large unique.  I do not know why you are seeing such a breadth of issues and others are not seeing those on their systems.

Scott, do you a contact at Sony?  I get the usual canned email response trying to tell them about the BDMV stuff.  Maybe you can get a MORE reasonable response than little ol me...  

[Tip McPartland]

The PS3 will not play BD-RE Version 1.0.  I just bought a PS3 and tried a disc I made in Pro HD and it wouldn't play.  The PS3 manual says that they don't play 1.0 as mentioned above.  Very frustrating, because I am not burning anything I can't rewrite until I know it works.  Bummer.

Tip

[plee]

Tip McPartland, on Jan 14 2007, 02:42 PM, said:

The PS3 will not play BD-RE Version 1.0.  I just bought a PS3 and tried a disc I made in Pro HD and it wouldn't play.  The PS3 manual says that they don't play 1.0 as mentioned above.  Very frustrating, because I am not burning anything I can't rewrite until I know it works.  Bummer.

Tip

Don't think it's the version of the disk that's the problem with the PS3 (I have a 2.0 BD-RE), it's just not able to read \BDMV structures from a BD-R/RE (Scott probably knows more details).  Seems strange to me, if you can do it with BD-ROM why not other media, unless they are specifically checking the media...   Might be the piracy paranoia kicking into gear here...

[Rotor-Head]

pixel, on Jan 13 2007, 02:23 AM, said:

Its just an announcement and not a real product already... and there is actually no HD-DVD burner available...

Yes there is.  LG just annouced it.  It reads and writes BD and HD-DVD.  I do a lof of work for them and they are sending me one tomorrow.  I look forward to it.

[shueardm]

Rotor-Head, on Jan 14 2007, 10:24 PM, said:

Yes there is.  LG just annouced it.  It reads and writes BD and HD-DVD.  I do a lof of work for them and they are sending me one tomorrow.  I look forward to it.

I read it's a dog and costs more than each drive seperately.

[mmace]

Rotor-Head, on Jan 14 2007, 10:24 PM, said:

Yes there is.  LG just annouced it.  It reads and writes BD and HD-DVD.  I do a lof of work for them and they are sending me one tomorrow.  I look forward to it.

afraid not, the LG one is a BD burner and HD-DVD player, it can't burn HD-DVD. Although the newly announced Toshiba HD-DVD writer should be available any day

[Rotor-Head]

mmace, on Jan 15 2007, 12:48 AM, said:

afraid not, the LG one is a BD burner and HD-DVD player, it can't burn HD-DVD. Although the newly announced Toshiba HD-DVD writer should be available any day

I should know tomorrow.  I'll will be here.  I work closely with the IT guys at LG and they told me that is does burn both BD and HDDVD.  You may be right and it may be a missunderstanding on my part, but I will find out soon enough...  I'll keep you posted.

I'm mainly interested in Blu-ray simply for the storage copacity, so the HDDVD part is not as important.  I already have a BD-R drive and it'll be nice to see the next step.

[Tip McPartland]

Plee,

How do you know what version the disc is?  Does it say on the case or the disc or what?

Thanks, of course I'll check for the version number myself too.

Tip

[plee]

Tip McPartland, on Jan 15 2007, 12:21 PM, said:

Plee,

How do you know what version the disc is?  Does it say on the case or the disc or what?

Thanks, of course I'll check for the version number myself too.

Tip

For the Verbatim it's on the back of the case...

"BD-RE Specification Version 2.1"

I have 2 other Memorex BD-RE's and it doesn't mention any version on their case.

[Tip McPartland]

Thanks, I appreciate your time in answering my question.

Unfortunately I've got TDK and it doesn't seem to indicate the version anywhere.  Oh well, next time I buy some I'll make sure to buy a brand that's labeled 2.1 or later.

Tip

[shueardm]

Tip McPartland, on Jan 15 2007, 07:18 PM, said:

Thanks, I appreciate your time in answering my question.

Unfortunately I've got TDK and it doesn't seem to indicate the version anywhere.  Oh well, next time I buy some I'll make sure to buy a brand that's labeled 2.1 or later.

Tip

Myy TDK media has it written on the back of the plastic wrap. Version 2.1 for RE and 1.1 for R