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#1 azflackman

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 10:47 AM

How do I export captured video from Tivo to iMovie so I can edit before burning DVD? Thank you, JRC

#2 freshburn

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 11:26 AM

You can't.  Tivo will only allow their files to be exported as 320x240 resolution and that is not a supported resolution for DV.

The workaround is to save as a DVD disc image, extract the files from the image, then export to iMovie and back to DVD.

Edited by freshburn, 13 January 2007 - 11:27 AM.


#3 azflackman

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 12:14 PM

View Postfreshburn, on Jan 13 2007, 12:26 PM, said:

You can't.  Tivo will only allow their files to be exported as 320x240 resolution and that is not a supported resolution for DV.

The workaround is to save as a DVD disc image, extract the files from the image, then export to iMovie and back to DVD.


Thank you Freshburn. Can you tell this dumb guy exactly how to save as disc imag, how to extract the files andthen export? Sorry for the need for step-by-step but it is greatly appreciated. JRC

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:04 PM

View Postazflackman, on Jan 13 2007, 12:14 PM, said:

Thank you Freshburn. Can you tell this dumb guy exactly how to save as disc imag, how to extract the files andthen export? Sorry for the need for step-by-step but it is greatly appreciated. JRC
I'll answer this for freshburn.

When you have everything set up the way you want to burn a DVD, instead of clicking the burn button go to the File menu and choose Save as Disc Image. Toast acts like it is creating a DVD but it is being written to your hard drive instead of a disc.

When the disc image is finished, you need to mount it. This can be done many ways. One is to control-click on the disc image file in the Finder and choose Mount It from the contextual menu. Another is to use the Mount disc image command in the Toast Utilities menu. Another is to choose Image File as the format in the Toast Copy window and select the disc image. That latter method, by the way, is how you burn a disc image file to disc.

When it mounts you'll probably see DVD Player automatically open. Quit DVD Player if it opens. Select New Project in the Toast File menu. Choose DVD video as your format in the Video window. Open the Media Browser if it isn't already open and choose DVD with the top button. Your "DVD" will appear in the browser window. Go down to the title level with the lower button. Thumbnails of each title appear in the window. Drag the ones you want to the video window (or select them and press the + button). Toast now extracts the MPEGs from the disc image file and writes them to the Roxio Converted Items folder.

When this is finished you can select any number of titles in the video window and Export them to DV or MPEG 4 for use in iMovie.

When you quit Toast the Converted Items folder is automatically emptied unless you change that in Toast preferences.

You can remove the mounted disc images by choosing Eject in the media browser or in the Finder.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 09:47 PM

View Posttsantee, on Jan 13 2007, 05:04 PM, said:

I'll answer this for freshburn.

When you have everything set up the way you want to burn a DVD, instead of clicking the burn button go to the File menu and choose Save as Disc Image. Toast acts like it is creating a DVD but it is being written to your hard drive instead of a disc.

When the disc image is finished, you need to mount it. This can be done many ways. One is to control-click on the disc image file in the Finder and choose Mount It from the contextual menu. Another is to use the Mount disc image command in the Toast Utilities menu. Another is to choose Image File as the format in the Toast Copy window and select the disc image. That latter method, by the way, is how you burn a disc image file to disc.

When it mounts you'll probably see DVD Player automatically open. Quit DVD Player if it opens. Select New Project in the Toast File menu. Choose DVD video as your format in the Video window. Open the Media Browser if it isn't already open and choose DVD with the top button. Your "DVD" will appear in the browser window. Go down to the title level with the lower button. Thumbnails of each title appear in the window. Drag the ones you want to the video window (or select them and press the + button). Toast now extracts the MPEGs from the disc image file and writes them to the Roxio Converted Items folder.

When this is finished you can select any number of titles in the video window and Export them to DV or MPEG 4 for use in iMovie.

When you quit Toast the Converted Items folder is automatically emptied unless you change that in Toast preferences.

You can remove the mounted disc images by choosing Eject in the media browser or in the Finder.
Yhank you so much for thking the time to walk me through this. It is late so i will try this tomorrow. Please acceptmy thanks in advance. i hope I can make it work. JRC

#6 dhartlieb

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 07:53 AM

To get export to DV, try using the widget "NowPlaying" version 2.5 to transfer your files from TiVo to Mac. This latest version has the provision to incorporate the tivodecode binary. Instructions are right on the widget. You get a .mpg file when the transfer is done. Drag this .mpg into Toast's video panel. Now check the export formats for many more options like, DV, QuickTime movie, Windows Media, as well as a bunch of audio only formats. The burn to DVD process is the same as with the Tivo Transfer .tivo files, namely, turn the reencode off. The quality is the same for both the .tivo and the .mpg methods.
Note: The widget does not give you a transfer queue, just one file at a time.
http://www.dashboard...ils.php?wid=281

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 08:25 AM

View Postdhartlieb, on Jan 14 2007, 07:53 AM, said:

To get export to DV, try using the widget "NowPlaying" version 2.5 to transfer your files from TiVo to Mac. This latest version has the provision to incorporate the tivodecode binary. Instructions are right on the widget. You get a .mpg file when the transfer is done. Drag this .mpg into Toast's video panel. Now check the export formats for many more options like, DV, QuickTime movie, Windows Media, as well as a bunch of audio only formats. The burn to DVD process is the same as with the Tivo Transfer .tivo files, namely, turn the reencode off. The quality is the same for both the .tivo and the .mpg methods.
Note: The widget does not give you a transfer queue, just one file at a time.
http://www.dashboard...ils.php?wid=281
Thanks for adding this info. That saves some time compared with the disc image process.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:57 AM

All of this is *way* too complicated.  

I've done the following:

Get the Tivo show of your choice into Toast, either via drag and drop or from the Tivo Download app.

Highlight the show in Toast, and then click on "export."  Yes, it'll export the video at 320X240, and from some testing I've done, the iPod (small) (the H.264 version) produces better output.

If you have iMovie 6, you can then simply open the application and then drag/drop that newly created H.264 file into iMovie.  It'll convert it to DV specifications.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:07 AM

When I converted to .dv to import into iMovie, the file grew to 12 gb! I use visualhub to convert to mgp and then use mpeg streamclip to quickly edit and save (the saving takes some time though)

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 06:17 PM

Is there any way for Toast 8 to export the file to iMovie (or the proper format) AFTER you have created an iPod file from the .tivo file?  I have converted a number of files to watch on my iPod and have deleted their predecessor .tivo files.   Toast is telling me that the iPod format (iPod (smallest)) is not a recognized file format.   Am I out of luck, or is there another way?

Many thanks.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:59 PM

View Posttsantee, on Jan 13 2007, 04:04 PM, said:

I'll answer this for freshburn.

When you have everything set up the way you want to burn a DVD, instead of clicking the burn button go to the File menu and choose Save as Disc Image. Toast acts like it is creating a DVD but it is being written to your hard drive instead of a disc.

When the disc image is finished, you need to mount it. This can be done many ways. One is to control-click on the disc image file in the Finder and choose Mount It from the contextual menu. Another is to use the Mount disc image command in the Toast Utilities menu. Another is to choose Image File as the format in the Toast Copy window and select the disc image. That latter method, by the way, is how you burn a disc image file to disc.

When it mounts you'll probably see DVD Player automatically open. Quit DVD Player if it opens. Select New Project in the Toast File menu. Choose DVD video as your format in the Video window. Open the Media Browser if it isn't already open and choose DVD with the top button. Your "DVD" will appear in the browser window. Go down to the title level with the lower button. Thumbnails of each title appear in the window. Drag the ones you want to the video window (or select them and press the + button). Toast now extracts the MPEGs from the disc image file and writes them to the Roxio Converted Items folder.

When this is finished you can select any number of titles in the video window and Export them to DV or MPEG 4 for use in iMovie.

When you quit Toast the Converted Items folder is automatically emptied unless you change that in Toast preferences.

You can remove the mounted disc images by choosing Eject in the media browser or in the Finder.

I'm trying to follow along with this, but it isn't working.

I've got a disc image just fine. I can mount it. But in my version of Toast 8 for Mac OSX, there is no "new project" under the "file" menu in toast. From there what you say is complete Greek compared to what my Toast 8 Interface looks like. Is there a different set of instructions for this that correlate to Toast * for Mac? Or why does my Toast 8 seem to be totally different than what you describe?

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:10 PM

View Postdhartlieb, on Jan 14 2007, 07:53 AM, said:

To get export to DV, try using the widget "NowPlaying" version 2.5 to transfer your files from TiVo to Mac. This latest version has the provision to incorporate the tivodecode binary. Instructions are right on the widget. You get a .mpg file when the transfer is done. Drag this .mpg into Toast's video panel. Now check the export formats for many more options like, DV, QuickTime movie, Windows Media, as well as a bunch of audio only formats. The burn to DVD process is the same as with the Tivo Transfer .tivo files, namely, turn the reencode off. The quality is the same for both the .tivo and the .mpg methods.
Note: The widget does not give you a transfer queue, just one file at a time.
http://www.dashboard...ils.php?wid=281


This sounds good. I have it installed. But I am confused as to the part where the widget says "install the tivodecode into the NowPlaying.wdgt package".

Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but what does that mean and how do I do it? I have downlaoded the tivodecode and I have located the NowPlaying.wdgt. But how do I actually copy it in to the widget?

Thanks.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:26 PM

View Postcnsayre, on Jan 15 2007, 05:57 AM, said:

All of this is *way* too complicated.  

I've done the following:

Get the Tivo show of your choice into Toast, either via drag and drop or from the Tivo Download app.

Highlight the show in Toast, and then click on "export."  Yes, it'll export the video at 320X240, and from some testing I've done, the iPod (small) (the H.264 version) produces better output.

If you have iMovie 6, you can then simply open the application and then drag/drop that newly created H.264 file into iMovie.  It'll convert it to DV specifications.

Thank you for that. That indeed is WAY easier than the other suggestions (not that they are bad - just that they don't work so great for folks like me!Posted Image)

So far it is working great - just taking forever to export!

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:45 PM

View Postcnsayre, on Jan 15 2007, 05:57 AM, said:

All of this is *way* too complicated.  

I've done the following:

Get the Tivo show of your choice into Toast, either via drag and drop or from the Tivo Download app.

Highlight the show in Toast, and then click on "export."  Yes, it'll export the video at 320X240, and from some testing I've done, the iPod (small) (the H.264 version) produces better output.

If you have iMovie 6, you can then simply open the application and then drag/drop that newly created H.264 file into iMovie.  It'll convert it to DV specifications.


Yep . . . this is definitely the most direct. I just took the .tivo file from my transfered files folder and dropped it into Toast. I exported it and then just brought it right into Final Cut Pro effortlessly. Haven't tried other video apps yet - and I don't use iMovie at all - but I would think that once that export is done, most would have a pretty easy way to get them in.

Anyway, thanks cnsayre!

That was a HUGE help.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:58 PM

Wow.  You guys do things the hard way.  You can actually export to 640 x 480, and actually enable all other codecs you installed on your computer to use when exporting a tivo file.

Make sure Toast and it's other apps are closed.   In the terminal window, copy and paste this:

defaults write com.roxio.Toast "tivo export mode" -integer 1

Restart Toast, export a video, and look at all of the new options.   320 x 240 is laughable.  Are we children here?

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 08:01 PM

What really sucks is that Easy Media Creator allows you to edit the Tivo files within the program.  When is Roxio going to add MPEG2 support????

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 01:27 PM

I'm having trouble with audio out of sync in iMovie (exported DV from Toast using pdxkevin's tip and imported into iMovie). Anyone else have this problem and have a solution?

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 07:29 PM

Mine appears to by in sync.  Still having troubles?

Edited by pdxkevin, 02 April 2007 - 07:31 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2007 - 07:30 AM

QUOTE (pdxkevin @ Apr 2 2007, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mine appears to by in sync.  Still having troubles?


Doesn't seem to happen every time, but since it takes hours and hours to do the whole process, it's hard to pin down the problem (or find the time to trouble-shoot).

Are you exporting from iMovie as DV stream or Quicktime (Full Quality setting)? (The out-of-sync audio got worse near the end of one movie after DV stream export. )

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (pdxkevin @ Feb 2 2007, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow.  You guys do things the hard way.  You can actually export to 640 x 480, and actually enable all other codecs you installed on your computer to use when exporting a tivo file.

Make sure Toast and it's other apps are closed.   In the terminal window, copy and paste this:

defaults write com.roxio.Toast "tivo export mode" -integer 1

Restart Toast, export a video, and look at all of the new options.   320 x 240 is laughable.  Are we children here?



This is awesome.  Thanks a lot!




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