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#1 hc803

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:26 AM

So yesterday at about 8 p.m., I started a burn on MyDvd of an .mp4 video that is about 1.5 hrs in length.

No problems up until about 7 a.m. this morning when I woke up, and my computer is still going at full speed and ONLY 65% OF THE MOVIE has been encoded!!!!!

WTH?  Is it really supposed to take 24 hours to make a DVD?  Is it because of the .mp4 format?  

Very frustrated, as I was making a copy of a movie to take out of town w/ me!

(BTW, I have an HP laptop running XP, 2.33 mhz, 1GB RAM, everything meets EMC9's specs).

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:31 AM

What the delay is is probably the graphics chipset in the laptop.

Rendering utilises the graphics chipset extensively and the majority of laptops use shared memory which is never really up to the work required to render.

You could try software rendering (presuming you are using hardware) but even that wouldn't be guaranteed to speed the process up.

You have to remember that commercial rendering is done on computer 'farms' (a lot of multicore machines with tons of RAM linked to form a super-computer)
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#3 hc803

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:42 AM

View Postgi7omy, on Jan 26 2007, 06:31 AM, said:

What the delay is is probably the graphics chipset in the laptop.

Rendering utilises the graphics chipset extensively and the majority of laptops use shared memory which is never really up to the work required to render.

You could try software rendering (presuming you are using hardware) but even that wouldn't be guaranteed to speed the process up.

You have to remember that commercial rendering is done on computer 'farms' (a lot of multicore machines with tons of RAM linked to form a super-computer)

thanks for the quick reply.
any advice on where to look to speed up the process?  or is it a hardware thing?
(sorry i'm not more computer-savvy)

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:49 AM

Probably hardware - I've a Fujitsu-Siemens laptop and I wouldn't even think of trying to render on that

As I said, all you could try is to do the graphics test in Videowave (go to tools, options and there is a diagnostic function and also a tick box for switching between hardware and software rendering)
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Signalink USB Audio Codec for ham radio connection
1 x 160 GB, 1 x 330 GB, 1 x 400 GB IDE drives
4 x 250 GB SATA 2
LG HL-DT-ST GGW-H20L BD-RE drive
22" Acer P223W monitor


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Posted 26 January 2007 - 08:45 AM

You have have been better off just transferring the .MP4 to the laptop and watching the file.  The MP4 would be much smaller anyway. If you are going to watch in on the laptop, you could even burn it as a 'data' disc. All you would need is software that plays back MP4s.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 05:46 AM

I have the .mp4 on my laptop (it's my only computer) and can watch it w/o issue (and yes, it's MUCH smaller as an .mp4) but I wanted to be able to play it on a friends DVD player.

Updated the drivers for my video card (ATI Radeon IGP 320M, had to get a patcher to do it)... started the burn last night, and this a.m. it was only at 21%!!!!

At this rate, it will take 2 entire days to JUST ENCODE a video!  It's not like I have an old laptop either, so what's the deal?  

If this is basically how ECM9 works, it wasn't worth the purchase.  I had better luck w/ Nero 6, even though it crashed and froze, it still worked faster than ECM.

Any more suggestions before I throw the computer across the room?

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 05:50 AM

Nero will probably encode faster but this is down to Nero allowing lower bitrates (therefore lower quality video). You're trading off quality for speed in this case.

As I said before, the sluggishness is all down to the graphics chipset in the laptop and that's always been a problem and can't be surmounted
If it ain't broke, fiddle with it until it breaks, then fiddle with it until you get it fixed

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“Computers have enabled people to make more mistakes faster than almost any invention in history, with the possible exception of tequila and hand guns.” — Mitch Ratcliffe


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Home Brew computer
Intel I7 950 on Gigabyte X58A UD3R mobo
12 GB Three Channel DDRAM
Radeon HD4850 512 MB GDR3 graphics
Signalink USB Audio Codec for ham radio connection
1 x 160 GB, 1 x 330 GB, 1 x 400 GB IDE drives
4 x 250 GB SATA 2
LG HL-DT-ST GGW-H20L BD-RE drive
22" Acer P223W monitor


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EMC10 on Windows XP64 SP2
Creator 2011 on Windows 7 Ultimate
ECD6 on Gentoo Linux (running under VMWare)




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