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#1 johnbrunton

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 08:07 AM

The Windows Vista Advisor tells me I must uninstall BACK UP MY PC before installing Vista.  Can anyone tell me how to unistall Back up MY PC without affecting the other programs in EMC 7.5.  It is not a option in Custom install, to install without.

#2 gi7omy

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 08:19 AM

Best bet is to uninstall everything and then re-install after the upgrade.

MS have said that 7.5 compatibility is fixed - but personally I'm slightly sceptical there because they made no mention of 8 or 9 which are later versions and are still having problems (even 9)
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 08:09 PM

I suggest you forget how to uninstall BUMP if you want to continue using EMC 7.5. Your problems are just starting :) On the other hand, if you know your way around the registry, search on the word BUMP (Back up My Pc) and delete all the places it finds. Just back up the registry before you do and also be aware there are many other places in the registry that at first appear to be BUMP related but are NOT.

I'm curious to know what your reason is to changing to Vista. Just curious. Is there something it will do that you want very badly and that XP won't do ??

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:43 AM

View Postgi7omy, on Feb 8 2007, 08:19 AM, said:

MS have said that 7.5 compatibility is fixed - but personally I'm slightly sceptical

Hi,

Do you happen to have a URL for the MS or Roxio article with regard to 7.5 compatibility in Vista? Just wanted to have a look before installing 7.5 on my Vista machine.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:49 AM

link to Microsoft info on EMC 7.5

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929427

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Edited by lynn98109, 20 February 2007 - 05:49 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2007 - 07:13 AM

View Postlynn98109, on Feb 20 2007, 05:49 AM, said:

link to Microsoft info on EMC 7.5

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929427

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 07:16 AM

Personally I'm still sceptical about it :)
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:02 AM

Doesn't Vista install IE 7 and doesn't IE 7 nuke V. 7x??  I'm confused . . .

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:16 AM

I think IE7 under Vista is a different animal to IE7 in XP. It seems to make a fundamental change to the OS kernel in XP that causes the problems, whereas it's native to Vista

Still won't make me install Vista until I really run out of choices
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 09:20 AM

View Postgi7omy, on Feb 20 2007, 09:16 AM, said:

I think IE7 under Vista is a different animal to IE7 in XP. It seems to make a fundamental change to the OS kernel in XP that causes the problems, whereas it's native to Vista

Still won't make me install Vista until I really run out of choices
Just adding this as a follow-up to my previous posting...

After checking the MS Vista compatibility article (referenced earlier in this thread) I noted the associated patch (KB929427) had already been installed on my Vista machine via MS Update. This being the case, after setting a restore point, I opted to give EMC 7.5 a try, choosing a selective (Custom) install which included only Creator Classic, Disc Copier, Audio Tools, Audio Mixer (and of course the Roxio/Sonic defaut utility apps that are dumped into all installations). During the installation process, BUMP was automatically blocked by the Vista installer. After I acknowledged the notification of this, the remaining selections installed without incident. After rebooting I updated the software to v7.5.2.49 experiencing no problems. Once installed, I found that Creator Classic (the component I'm most interested in) was fully functional (and running very nicely) however Mixer and Audio Tools (Audio Capture specifically) both crashed upon launch and were totally unusable. This being the case, I removed them from the installation and went with just Creator Classic and Disc Copier. As for other 7.5 apps (which I did not install), I suspect there would be a variety of potential problems, especially with regard to video apps.... just a hunch. So to sum up, Vista compatibility with 7.5 seems to be quite limited with the exception of Creator Classic.

Edited by MisterTee, 21 February 2007 - 09:26 AM.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 10:15 AM

Doesn't surprise me at all actually - I did think MS' claim of compatibility for EMC 7.5 was more grounded in wishful thinking than reality.

Note please - Roxio never claimed compatibility with Vista for EMC 7.5 - MS were the ones who did
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 10:49 AM

View Postgi7omy, on Feb 21 2007, 12:15 PM, said:

Note please - Roxio never claimed compatibility with Vista for EMC 7.5 - MS were the ones who did


That same article listed a loooonnnnngggg list of programs (including some MS programs) which the patch would make compatable with Vista.
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 02:34 AM

View Postgi7omy, on Feb 21 2007, 10:15 AM, said:

Note please - Roxio never claimed compatibility with Vista for EMC 7.5 - MS were the ones who did
Duly noted :-)

View Postml, on Feb 21 2007, 10:49 AM, said:

That same article listed a loooonnnnngggg list of programs (including some MS programs) which the patch would make compatable with Vista
Interesting that quite a few of the apps referenced in the article have not been stated to be compatible by the original publishers. In all honestly I'd be surprised if Roxio had any intention of patching 7.5 considering the age of the version. Although I have all editions of EMC/Easy CD Creator going back to 4.0, the 7.5 build is my favorite version of the Creator Classic component and I'm grateful to be able to use it in Vista. That said, it would be helpful (on Microsoft's part) to let us know specifically which components have been deemed compatible.
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 05:17 AM

I wonder hos much of that list is down to PR rather than tech - it seems strange that they claim all those work

ps - I can beat you: I have them all going back to Adaptec Easy CD Creator 2 :)
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:35 AM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Feb 22 2007, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder hos much of that list is down to PR rather than tech - it seems strange that they claim all those work
In re-reading MS article 929427, it does seem to indicate that MS has updated the Vista OS to accommodate the listed applications. If nothing else, one has  to wonder about the depth of their testing/updating program. It would be interesting to know how closely MS works with the software publishers (if at all) with regard to outdated apps. Re-spinning each and every module of ANY previous version of EMC would certainly be quite a task (seemingly without much hope of generating ROI). I suppose I'll just consider whatever efforts are made to be a labor of love until I hear otherwise  wink.gif    
QUOTE (gi7omy @ Feb 22 2007, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ps - I can beat you: I have them all going back to Adaptec Easy CD Creator 2 laugh.gif
Well, I may have a copy of 3.0 lurking around here somewhere but OK, you win  biggrin.gif

Edited by MisterTee, 22 February 2007 - 07:43 AM.

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