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[westkat]

i'm trying to burn live music shows with multiple tracks that have no audible gaps between them .
after using creator 5 and xp for years burning " discs at once " , with no pre-gaps set between tracks , i can't figure out how to do it with creator de 9.0.16 , the lite version that came with my new dell with vista home premium . i keep getting pauses that are less than two seconds . can this be done without changing the different tracks into one file ? please help ! thanking you in advance . . .

[Tom4Panic]

i'm trying to burn live music shows with multiple tracks that have no audible gaps between them .
after using creator 5 and xp for years burning " discs at once " , with no pre-gaps set between tracks , i can't figure out how to do it with creator de 9.0.16 , the lite version that came with my new dell with vista home premium . i keep getting pauses that are less than two seconds . can this be done without changing the different tracks into one file ? please help ! thanking you in advance . . .

You know, I noticed this same problem.  I had a slight pause in a few tracks(not all of them) in the CD I burned also.  I had all tracks with 0 in the pre-gap section.

I did convert the flac files to a wav files but haven't checked to see if it was a bad conversion.  Will let you know.

Hopefully this isn't a bug in the EMC 9.  Because I burn lots and lots of live shows that have one song transition into another song without a break.  

[westkat]

You know, I noticed this same problem.  I had a slight pause in a few tracks(not all of them) in the CD I burned also.  I had all tracks with 0 in the pre-gap section.

I did convert the flac files to a wav files but haven't checked to see if it was a bad conversion.  Will let you know.

Hopefully this isn't a bug in the EMC 9.  Because I burn lots and lots of live shows that have one song transition into another song without a break.  

right on ,
thanks for the reply Tom4Panic !
i tried several different flac and shn > wav conversions to no avail .
it seems like the pre-gap setting keeps resetting itself to the default of multiple gaps instead of staying on 0 ?

p.s. - now creator 9 will not even start up in vista saying something like the c file doesn't exist , which i have seen has happened to others in this forum already . is it time for a reinstall ? help . . .

[Tom4Panic]

right on ,
thanks for the reply Tom4Panic !
i tried several different flac and shn > wav conversions to no avail .
it seems like the pre-gap setting keeps resetting itself to the default of multiple gaps instead of staying on 0 ?

p.s. - now creator 9 will not even start up in vista saying something like the c file doesn't exist , which i have seen has happened to others in this forum already . is it time for a reinstall ? help . . .

Weird.  

Problems with software in Vista?  Say it isn't so?  

I had Vista for about 2 days on my new computer and hardly any of my software worked on it.  So I purchased Windows XP home edition and did a clean install.  It seems to be working okay, but I just installed EMC 9 last night and just burned the one disc.  Once I go home and check my wav files to see if they were converted okay or not, I'll let you know.

I really hope it isn't a problem with Roxio or I am out 100 bucks!!!  

[Tom4Panic]

Okay, I figured out a way to burn seamless tracks on a disc which is essential for Live Concert Shows (especially my favorite, Widespread Panic).  

When you open EMC9 go to Audio > Music Disc Creator.  That will open a new window and then continue to add tracks to that.  Make sure your fade is set to "no fade" and your transition is at 0.0.  I burned a disc of 11 tracks and there wasn't a gap or a pause between tracks.

DO NOT use Audio > Audio CD if you want to burn a Live Concert with seamless tracks.  You will have some pauses in between tracks.  I burned 2 discs and both had slight pauses in between tracks of 9 of the 11 songs.

I also tried Easy Creator Classic to burn a multimedia CD.  It was way out of whack.  My .wav files where slightly bigger when I added them to the burn window and it ended up telling me that there were to many files to fit on a Audio CD.  Which was wrong because I just burned a CD in Music Disc Creator that had the same amount of music.

I don't really understand it.  Audio CD, I'm guessing, is just used for burning separate tracks with gaps.    

I'm glad I found a fix becuase I would have been seriously upset if I couldn't burn a CD without gaps.  I would have demanded my money back for this software.

Try the Music Disc Creator and let me know how you made out.

Edited by Tom4Panic, 07 March 2007 - 08:40 PM.

[westkat]

Okay, I figured out a way to burn seamless tracks on a disc which is essential for Live Concert Shows (especially my favorite, Widespread Panic).  

When you open EMC9 go to Audio > Music Disc Creator.  That will open a new window and then continue to add tracks to that.  Make sure your fade is set to "no fade" and your transition is at 0.0.  I burned a disc of 11 tracks and there wasn't a gap or a pause between tracks.

DO NOT use Audio > Audio CD if you want to burn a Live Concert with seamless tracks.  You will have some pauses in between tracks.  I burned 2 discs and both had slight pauses in between tracks of 9 of the 11 songs.

I also tried Easy Creator Classic to burn a multimedia CD.  It was way out of whack.  My .wav files where slightly bigger when I added them to the burn window and it ended up telling me that there were to many files to fit on a Audio CD.  Which was wrong because I just burned a CD in Music Disc Creator that had the same amount of music.

I don't really understand it.  Audio CD, I'm guessing, is just used for burning separate tracks with gaps.    

I'm glad I found a fix becuase I would have been seriously upset if I couldn't burn a CD without gaps.  I would have demanded my money back for this software.

Try the Music Disc Creator and let me know how you made out.

Tom4Panic : I really can't thank you enough for your solution !
however , I won't be able to try it until i do a clean install of creator 9 , which was recommended by roxio and dell . Dell is sending me a creator 9 application dvd because they told me to reinstall  using the version on my recovery drive D , i would lose all the files i downloaded after day 1 ( 100G ) . is there a way to clean install without losing my files or waiting for the disc ? a question for another forum i guess . . .

[Tom4Panic]

Dell suggested doing a clean install for Roxio and you would lose all your files?  Do you mean doing a clean install for your whole system including Windows Vista?  That is crazy!  

I wouldn't think you would lose all your files if you just unistalled Roxio then reinstalled it.  

I wonder if I should try uninstall EMC9 and Reinstalling it to see if I can burn a pauseless CD in Audio > Audio CD instead of using  Music Disc Creator?

Once you reinstall EMC9 try it for me and let me know if it works.  Then I might try a reinstall.

Did Roxio or Dell say anything else besides reinstalling the software when you told them about the pauses in Audio CD?

[grandpabruce]

Dell suggested doing a clean install for Roxio and you would lose all your files?  Do you mean doing a clean install for your whole system including Windows Vista?  That is crazy!  

I wouldn't think you would lose all your files if you just unistalled Roxio then reinstalled it.  

I wonder if I should try uninstall EMC9 and Reinstalling it to see if I can burn a pauseless CD in Audio > Audio CD instead of using  Music Disc Creator?

Once you reinstall EMC9 try it for me and let me know if it works.  Then I might try a reinstall.

Did Roxio or Dell say anything else besides reinstalling the software when you told them about the pauses in Audio CD?

I think that maybe Dell was saying that in order to do a clean install of the program, it would involve using the recovery disk, which would wipe out everything on the computer, and put it back to the state is was in, when new.

But, I am not sure.  

[westkat]

I think that maybe Dell was saying that in order to do a clean install of the program, it would involve using the recovery disk, which would wipe out everything on the computer, and put it back to the state is was in, when new.

But, I am not sure.  

Bruce , thanks for the much needed input .
the original burning problem is stated above along with Tom's solution .

Before i could try Tom's fix , creator 9 decided to take a vacation !
roxio told me to do a clean install ( which i've never done before ) and to contact dell to find out where roxio 9 is . Dell told me that instead of putting 9 on an applications cd , like they did with 5 , they installed a backup on my systems recovery D drive . they said to restore roxio this way would delete my downloaded files . not wanting to do this i asked them to send me a 9 dvd , which they agreed . is this true ? is there a better way to do this ? do i have to wait for the dvd ? apologies if this is not the correct forum . thanking you in advance . . .

Dell suggested doing a clean install for Roxio and you would lose all your files?  Do you mean doing a clean install for your whole system including Windows Vista?  That is crazy!  

I wouldn't think you would lose all your files if you just unistalled Roxio then reinstalled it.  

I wonder if I should try uninstall EMC9 and Reinstalling it to see if I can burn a pauseless CD in Audio > Audio CD instead of using  Music Disc Creator?

Once you reinstall EMC9 try it for me and let me know if it works.  Then I might try a reinstall.

Did Roxio or Dell say anything else besides reinstalling the software when you told them about the pauses in Audio CD?

Tom , BTW - my e-mail is attached to your first quote : if you ever want to talk about music in length ?
i hope i answered your question in bruce's post ?
THANKS AGAIN . . .

[Tom4Panic]

Westkat,

Since Roxio asked you to do a clean install do they think the Audio CD should not have a pause inbetween tracks?  That seems different.

I didn't see you e-mail attachment.  Are you a Widespread Panic fan also?

[westkat]

Westkat,

Since Roxio asked you to do a clean install do they think the Audio CD should not have a pause inbetween tracks?  That seems different.

I didn't see you e-mail attachment.  Are you a Widespread Panic fan also?

my e-mail is mistakenly displayed on the top of your first quote.
roxio said that 9 could definately burn without pauses , and that the reason it crashed is because it never worked properly to begin with. they recommended the clean install to recover 9 ( which crashed ) not necessarily to help with the burn issue , although they suggested that it should help in my case . unfortunately they were not as specific , nor as articulate as you were in the solutions category ! but to be fair to them , the reinstall prevented us from getting that far . they did suggest things that i tried in AUDIO already like burning DAO , and removing preset gaps . if you have any advice on the clean install please read what i wrote to bruce . iv'e been collecting mostly GD since 1991 , but as you can tell i'm new to computers . . .

[grandpabruce]

Bruce , thanks for the much needed input .
the original burning problem is stated above along with Tom's solution .

Before i could try Tom's fix , creator 9 decided to take a vacation !
roxio told me to do a clean install ( which i've never done before ) and to contact dell to find out where roxio 9 is . Dell told me that instead of putting 9 on an applications cd , like they did with 5 , they installed a backup on my systems recovery D drive . they said to restore roxio this way would delete my downloaded files . not wanting to do this i asked them to send me a 9 dvd , which they agreed . is this true ? is there a better way to do this ? do i have to wait for the dvd ? apologies if this is not the correct forum . thanking you in advance . . .
Tom , BTW - my e-mail is attached to your first quote : if you ever want to talk about music in length ?
i hope i answered your question in bruce's post ?
THANKS AGAIN . . .

Wait until you receive the EMC 9 disk(s) from Dell.  You can then uninstall the program and reinstall from the disk(s).  Then use the method that Tom suggested to burn seamless tracks.

[westkat]

Wait until you receive the EMC 9 disk(s) from Dell.  You can then uninstall the program and reinstall from the disk(s).  Then use the method that Tom suggested to burn seamless tracks.

thanks Bruce !

[Tom4Panic]

my e-mail is mistakenly displayed on the top of your first quote.
roxio said that 9 could definately burn without pauses , and that the reason it crashed is because it never worked properly to begin with. they recommended the clean install to recover 9 ( which crashed ) not necessarily to help with the burn issue , although they suggested that it should help in my case . unfortunately they were not as specific , nor as articulate as you were in the solutions category ! but to be fair to them , the reinstall prevented us from getting that far . they did suggest things that i tried in AUDIO already like burning DAO , and removing preset gaps . if you have any advice on the clean install please read what i wrote to bruce . iv'e been collecting mostly GD since 1991 , but as you can tell i'm new to computers . . .

Weskat,

I will be really surprised if after you re-install EMC9 and you try to burn a pause-less disc in Audio > Audio CD and it works right.  I'm curious to see if it does.  If not, EMC9 should read this thread and devolep a patch for Audio > Audio CD.

Collecting GD since 91?  Nice.  My first show was in 91.   Change my life forever.  Since then, I have been a avid fan and collector of shows since.  Couldn't even begin to tell you how many shows I've seen or collected.  

Hence the reason I was so adament about burning LIVE concerts to disc without pauses.  Gaps on a GD Live Disc I would just assume throwing in the garbage can.

[grandpabruce]

thanks Bruce !

You are welcome.

[westkat]

Weskat,

I will be really surprised if after you re-install EMC9 and you try to burn a pause-less disc in Audio > Audio CD and it works right.  I'm curious to see if it does.  If not, EMC9 should read this thread and devolep a patch for Audio > Audio CD.

Collecting GD since 91?  Nice.  My first show was in 91.   Change my life forever.  Since then, I have been a avid fan and collector of shows since.  Couldn't even begin to tell you how many shows I've seen or collected.  

Hence the reason I was so adament about burning LIVE concerts to disc without pauses.  Gaps on a GD Live Disc I would just assume throwing in the garbage can.

me too !
3/23/91 was my first show .
e-mail me sometime ,
thanks for the solution !

[westkat]

dell sent :
roxio creator / my dvd combo le .
is it even compatible with vista ?
should i install it ?
will i only have a dla compatibility issue ?
can i fix that ?
help , again . . .

[westkat]

Okay, I figured out a way to burn seamless tracks on a disc which is essential for Live Concert Shows (especially my favorite, Widespread Panic).  

When you open EMC9 go to Audio > Music Disc Creator.  That will open a new window and then continue to add tracks to that.  Make sure your fade is set to "no fade" and your transition is at 0.0.  I burned a disc of 11 tracks and there wasn't a gap or a pause between tracks.

DO NOT use Audio > Audio CD if you want to burn a Live Concert with seamless tracks.  You will have some pauses in between tracks.  I burned 2 discs and both had slight pauses in between tracks of 9 of the 11 songs.

I also tried Easy Creator Classic to burn a multimedia CD.  It was way out of whack.  My .wav files where slightly bigger when I added them to the burn window and it ended up telling me that there were to many files to fit on a Audio CD.  Which was wrong because I just burned a CD in Music Disc Creator that had the same amount of music.

I don't really understand it.  Audio CD, I'm guessing, is just used for burning separate tracks with gaps.    

I'm glad I found a fix becuase I would have been seriously upset if I couldn't burn a CD without gaps.  I would have demanded my money back for this software.

Try the Music Disc Creator and let me know how you made out.

HEY TOM - just to let you know i wasn't able to use your solution because the disc they sent me CREATOR / MY DVD COMBO LE does NOT have music disc creator . . .

dell sent :
roxio creator / my dvd combo le .
is it even compatible with vista ?
should i install it ?
will i only have a dla compatibility issue ?
can i fix that ?
help , again . . .

UPDATE : CREATOR / MY DVD COMBO LE CAN NOT BURN TRACKS SEAMLESSLY !

THANKS ANYWAY TOM AND BRUCE !

[Tom4Panic]

Hey Westkat!

That really does suck that Roxio EMC9 LE doesn't give you the Music Disc Creator option.  Becuase I know for a fact that Audio CD will not burn all your tracks with out a pause.  One thing you do have going for you is that you didn't pay a dime for this software.  So maybe this is a blessing in disguse for you.  

If I were you, I would search around different burning software(especially if your are runinng Vista) and make sure before you put any money down that it can burn seamless tracks and of course work with Vista.

Good Luck!

[westkat]

Hey Westkat!

That really does suck that Roxio EMC9 LE doesn't give you the Music Disc Creator option.  Becuase I know for a fact that Audio CD will not burn all your tracks with out a pause.  One thing you do have going for you is that you didn't pay a dime for this software.  So maybe this is a blessing in disguse for you.  

If I were you, I would search around different burning software(especially if your are runinng Vista) and make sure before you put any money down that it can burn seamless tracks and of course work with Vista.

Good Luck!

THANKS TOM !
the funny thing is roxio creator 9 de 9.0.116 that dell partitioned on my D drive has music creator , but the reinstall disc they sent me is creator / my dvd combo le which doesn't . dell told me there was no way to reinstall from the partition without deleting all my downloaded files . since i don't have an external HD yet , i accepted the inferior disc install method , but don't fully believe what they said to be true . COMMENTS ?