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Posted 05 February 2006 - 03:15 PM

I am a recent Easy Media Creator 7.5 user. As luck would have it, I purchased my copy only a month or so before EMC8 hit the shelves. That doesn't bother me to badly. I upgrade from v5.0 and it had been working fine for me. EMC7.5 does all I need it to with one exception. I can't burn Tivo shows to disc. I didn't have a Tivo until recently so that wasn't too big a deal but I'd love to be able to do that now. Unfortunately I've read many negative posts here about the new version and have heard of bugs and stability problems and that most people can't burn Tivo shows anyway, which is the only reason I'd consider upgrading anyway.

Have any of the problems been fixed with recent patches? If EMC8 isn't the best choice, what other options are there for burning Tivo show to disc? I'm not willing to spend $100 for an app just for that feature alone. Any ideas?

Thanks for any information anyone might be able to provide.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 03:33 PM

View Postbfollowell, on Feb 5 2006, 11:15 PM, said:

I am a recent Easy Media Creator 7.5 user. As luck would have it, I purchased my copy only a month or so before EMC8 hit the shelves. That doesn't bother me to badly. I upgrade from v5.0 and it had been working fine for me. EMC7.5 does all I need it to with one exception. I can't burn Tivo shows to disc. I didn't have a Tivo until recently so that wasn't too big a deal but I'd love to be able to do that now. Unfortunately I've read many negative posts here about the new version and have heard of bugs and stability problems and that most people can't burn Tivo shows anyway, which is the only reason I'd consider upgrading anyway.

Have any of the problems been fixed with recent patches? If EMC8 isn't the best choice, what other options are there for burning Tivo show to disc? I'm not willing to spend $100 for an app just for that feature alone. Any ideas?

Thanks for any information anyone might be able to provide.

Sincerely,
- Byron Followell


Answered here. http://forums.suppor...?showtopic=1843

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 05:27 AM

Aside from legal issues which may not be in force in your part of the world, I believe that V7.5 does have TIVO support. check with the Knowledge Base. Look under FAQ. It is not available now so check later.

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I am a recent Easy Media Creator 7.5 user. As luck would have it, I purchased my copy only a month or so before EMC8 hit the shelves. That doesn't bother me to badly. I upgrade from v5.0 and it had been working fine for me. EMC7.5 does all I need it to with one exception. I can't burn Tivo shows to disc. I didn't have a Tivo until recently so that wasn't too big a deal but I'd love to be able to do that now. Unfortunately I've read many negative posts here about the new version and have heard of bugs and stability problems and that most people can't burn Tivo shows anyway, which is the only reason I'd consider upgrading anyway.

Have any of the problems been fixed with recent patches? If EMC8 isn't the best choice, what other options are there for burning Tivo show to disc? I'm not willing to spend $100 for an app just for that feature alone. Any ideas?

Thanks for any information anyone might be able to provide.

Sincerely,
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 05:51 AM

View Postsknis, on Feb 6 2006, 05:27 AM, said:

Aside from legal issues which may not be in force in your part of the world, I believe that V7.5 does have TIVO support. check with the Knowledge Base. Look under FAQ. It is not available now so check later.


My part of the world? I'm in the US. Is there another part of the world?! Sorry, only joking. Just voicing the attitude it's so easy to take on sometimes.

Anyway, no, 7.5 does not have native Tivo support. That didn't come until v8.0.

Also, I guess I'm confused, what legal issues are there concerning broadcast shows? I'm free to record anything I want on a VCR, DVD recorder or Tivo. As far as I know, there are no legal issues saying I can't record what comes into my home for personal use. How is transferring it to DVD for archiving any different? Obviously with digital rights and all the changes over the past few years, I don't know near enough about the legal issues but, as long as I'm not giving copies out to friends or selling the DVD's, I don't see how transferring to DVD for personal use is any different than someone recording on any other media.

Regardless, I've been turned to a free 600K app that works beautifully to allow me to edit and burn my Tivo shows with my existing applications. No reason to spend $70 to upgrade to what is reported to be a buggy product. Thanks to everyone who responded.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 11:45 AM

View Postbfollowell, on Feb 6 2006, 08:51 AM, said:

Also, I guess I'm confused, what legal issues are there concerning broadcast shows? I'm free to record anything I want on a VCR, DVD recorder or Tivo. As far as I know, there are no legal issues saying I can't record what comes into my home for personal use. How is transferring it to DVD for archiving any different? Obviously with digital rights and all the changes over the past few years, I don't know near enough about the legal issues but, as long as I'm not giving copies out to friends or selling the DVD's, I don't see how transferring to DVD for personal use is any different than someone recording on any other media.

Regardless, I've been turned to a free 600K app that works beautifully to allow me to edit and burn my Tivo shows with my existing applications. No reason to spend $70 to upgrade to what is reported to be a buggy product. Thanks to everyone who responded.

Sincerely,
- Byron Followell

Technically, if there is any Digital Rights Management on any of your Tivo content, which would restrict your copying it, and if the application you're using attempts to circumvent that DRM, then you're breaking the law. Even if it's in your own home. Even if it's for your own personal use. Even if you're not giving it to friends. Even if it's just to put it onto other media.

Now, I don't have a Tivo, I don't have satellite, I don't have cable (rather primitive aren't we?) so there is no DRM on the analogue content we receive via our antenna. In that case, recording for time-shifting or personal use is considered "fair use". So I don't know what DRM may come with Tivo or any of your content, but you might be surprised how legal it is or isn't.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 12:46 PM

View Postd_deweywright, on Feb 6 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

Technically, if there is any Digital Rights Management on any of your Tivo content, which would restrict your copying it, and if the application you're using attempts to circumvent that DRM, then you're breaking the law. Even if it's in your own home. Even if it's for your own personal use. Even if you're not giving it to friends. Even if it's just to put it onto other media.

Now, I don't have a Tivo, I don't have satellite, I don't have cable (rather primitive aren't we?) so there is no DRM on the analogue content we receive via our antenna. In that case, recording for time-shifting or personal use is considered "fair use". So I don't know what DRM may come with Tivo or any of your content, but you might be surprised how legal it is or isn't.


You're probably correct so I'll just keep it to myself from here on out :)

I certainly understand how easy it is to pirate in this new all digital age and I certainly respect the owners right to protect their income but it really puts a hardship on those of us who would never dream of pirating media to begin with. Personally, I think it's all a little crazy, but that's just my opinion and I know everyone has one.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 05:38 PM

View Postbfollowell, on Feb 6 2006, 03:46 PM, said:

You're probably correct so I'll just keep it to myself from here on out :)

I certainly understand how easy it is to pirate in this new all digital age and I certainly respect the owners right to protect their income but it really puts a hardship on those of us who would never dream of pirating media to begin with. Personally, I think it's all a little crazy, but that's just my opinion and I know everyone has one.

- Byron

I hope you weren't interpreting my previous post as any sort of accusation, I find the legalities behind the Millenium Copyright act overly restrictive and too condescending to the media industry myself. I still believe in fair use myself. Fortunately, most of my favorite media is still the "old fashioned" analogue LP format. Putting that onto CD for my own use is a great use of technology.
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Posted 08 February 2006 - 04:36 PM

View Postbfollowell, on Feb 6 2006, 01:51 PM, said:

My part of the world? I'm in the US. Is there another part of the world?! Sorry, only joking. Just voicing the attitude it's so easy to take on sometimes.

Also, I guess I'm confused, what legal issues are there concerning broadcast shows? I'm free to record anything I want on a VCR, DVD recorder or Tivo. As far as I know, there are no legal issues saying I can't record what comes into my home for personal use. How is transferring it to DVD for archiving any different? Obviously with digital rights and all the changes over the past few years, I don't know near enough about the legal issues but, as long as I'm not giving copies out to friends or selling the DVD's, I don't see how transferring to DVD for personal use is any different than someone recording on any other media.

Regardless, I've been turned to a free 600K app that works beautifully to allow me to edit and burn my Tivo shows with my existing applications.
Sincerely,
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So you found TiVo Desktop or one of the many others. It is the how you get the DRM engine DLL.

Tivo has DRM Digital Rights Managment in there content. Now what others here have tried to explain. If you strip or circumvent the DRM in the US, it is illegal. Thats why its there in the first place! " How is transferring it to DVD for archiving any different? " Its called royalties, and they want you to buy it so they get it. It is called cash, bucks, American green backs!

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