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#1 oneal033

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 09:00 PM

Has anyone come across this situation?  I tried to copy some mp3 files and was told that some data would be lost during copy.  The specific data refers to a tag ':Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA' that Roxio apparently added to the files.  Does anyone now how to delete this information and keep it from coming back?

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 05:06 AM

That is a data file "tag" that Roxio adds to your file to help Roxio find it on your hard drive.  It is automatically deleted from your file when it is copied to a disc.

View Postoneal033, on Feb 5 2006, 11:00 PM, said:

Has anyone come across this situation? I tried to copy some mp3 files and was told that some data would be lost during copy. The specific data refers to a tag ':Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA' that Roxio apparently added to the files. Does anyone now how to delete this information and keep it from coming back?

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#3 rachel4jasmine

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 07:04 AM

View Postoneal033, on Feb 5 2006, 09:00 PM, said:

Has anyone come across this situation?  I tried to copy some mp3 files and was told that some data would be lost during copy.  The specific data refers to a tag ':Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA' that Roxio apparently added to the files.  Does anyone now how to delete this information and keep it from coming back?
I have this problem too. I have a hard disk MP3 player and when I copy the MP3's to it from my PC, I get this information message that the info will be lost. I continue copying, but the resultant file has some corruption in it which prevents the ID3 tag being read correctly on the MP3 player. It plays ok, but the tag info is useless.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 12:06 PM

View Postrachel4jasmine, on Feb 6 2006, 10:04 AM, said:

I have this problem too. I have a hard disk MP3 player and when I copy the MP3's to it from my PC, I get this information message that the info will be lost. I continue copying, but the resultant file has some corruption in it which prevents the ID3 tag being read correctly on the MP3 player. It plays ok, but the tag info is useless.

The alternate data stream is not related to MP3 (ID3) tags...

Here is a rather long winded note I wrote a while back...

Confirm Stream Loss - :Roxio EMC Stream:$DATA

The information in this article applies to:
Easy Media Creator 8

Applicable Operating Systems:
Windows 2000 Professional
Windows XP Home / Pro / Media Center
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

Issue:

As a part of Easy Media Creator 8, the RoxWatch application stores metadata as part of a file that is located within an alternate data stream. When a file is indexed by RoxWatch so that it is accessible through Media Manager, there is an alternate data stream added.  This information is similiar to a virtual sticky note.  This virtual sticky note contains a unique identification number which is assigned to media files on your hard drive.  Only media files which are indexed by RoxWatch will contain this information.

This feature assists users who move files to new locations on their hard drive by automatically updating their location.  VideoWave and MyDVD projects for example contain pointers to images and videos that have been added to a project.  If you move a file from one indexed location to another, typically when you attempt to open your saved project that image or video that was added will be missing in the project.

With this tagging however, once the new the file is indexed by RoxWatch your projects will automatically point to the new location of the files.

The unique identifier or tag is only unique to your computer, the same identification tag may exist on another customers computer for a different file.  This information is only useful on your computer and as such does not exist and is not transferred anywhere else.

Solution:

These data streams, sometimes called NTFS data streams, can only exist on NTFS hard disk partitions.

If you e-mail a file, the data stream is not included.

When you burn a file to CD/DVD, the data stream is not included.

If you attempt to copy a file which contains a data stream to a non-NTFS drive or USB storage device such as a USB memory key, you may receive you may receive the following error message:

Confirm Stream Loss
The file "filename.avi" has extra information attached to it that might be
lost if you continue copying. The contents of the file will not be
affected. Information that might be lost includes:

:Roxio: EMC Stream:$DATA

Do you want to proceed anyway?

To continue you should choose the "Yes" option and only the extra information that is tagged to this file will be removed as it is copied.  This is working as designed, the tagging information can only be stored on NTFS partitions.

If you wish to stop this information from being created, you will need to right click on the RoxWatch or Media Manager Services icon in your system tray and choose "Stop Watching Folders".  If you have hidden the system tray icon, you can access these options in the Media Manager application.

Technical information on alternate or multiple data streams is available here:
http://www.microsoft...kc_fil_xurt.asp

- patatrox


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Posted 10 February 2006 - 02:36 AM

As a computer technician I am familiar with all the info which was stated by other users, that is why it removes the tags when copied.  I need to find a way to remove the tags short of copying all files to another drive and back and preferrably a way to stop the tags from being added again.

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 03:35 AM

Removing the streams where they are already added - ?.  Making sure the streams are not addedin the future - reread the post from Patatrox. "If you wish to stop this information from being created, you will need to right click on the RoxWatch or Media Manager Services icon in your system tray and choose "Stop Watching Folders". If you have hidden the system tray icon, you can access these options in the Media Manager application."

View Postoneal033, on Feb 10 2006, 04:36 AM, said:

As a computer technician I am familiar with all the info which was stated by other users, that is why it removes the tags when copied. I need to find a way to remove the tags short of copying all files to another drive and back and preferrably a way to stop the tags from being added again.

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 10:31 AM

I have found that using "Stop Watching Folders" will indeed stop causing the Streams from being created. But I have a bunch of files that had the stream added and I want it removed. Any tools Roxio has to remove the stream would be appreciated (short of copying all of the files off the machine to a CD and back onto the machine.... what a drag.)

Thanks!

Edited by garyjay1@sbceo.org, 26 February 2006 - 10:41 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2006 - 08:59 AM

ADS spy from merijn will let you find and remove them

http://www.spywarein.../downloads.html

Note that
i) there is no back up, once deleted they're gone, so make sure you only delete the ones you want (Roxio EMC stream)

ii) Roxio' own mp3 files in C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy Media Creator 8\VideoUI\Content\SoundFX have Roxio EMC stream that should not be deleted (in fact ADS spy tells you it could noit delete them)

Edited by jeanrosenfeld, 27 February 2006 - 09:01 AM.

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