[jokono]

Hello,

After installing EMC9, one of the first configuration changes I made was to change the location of where VideoWave would store proxy files. I did this, because I like to limit the amount of temporary data that gets stored to C: -- this is so I can keep C: as defragged as possible. I have a separate "data" drive M:, which I use for this purpose.

So, I went into VW->tools->options and changed the proxy file location from C:\Docum... to M:\temp\Roxio\proxy. This setting was accepted, and data was even stored there when I created a small video. But, the next time I opened VW, the proxy file location went back to the old default location of C:\Documents and Settings\me\... and all data that had been stored to M:\temp\Roxio\proxy was copied over.

This is very annoying. A possible work-around that I just though of would be to create a link to M:\temp\Roxio\proxy and place this link in the location of the default proxy folder. I guess I'll give that a shot. But, is there a _REAL_ fix to this problem?

Thanks,

Josh


UPDATE: I have experimented with adding links (windows "shortcuts") to try to redirect VideoWave over to my M: drive. No luck. Each time I try to replace the actual Roxio or VidoeUI9 or proxy folder with a shortcut, the folder is simply recreated by the application. The shortcut is ignored, because it's actually a file with a .lnk extension.

Anyhoo, my idea didn't work, so hopefully someone here has a fix for this.

Thanks again.

This post has been edited by jokono: 13 March 2007 - 08:44 PM

[Merv]

Hello,

After installing EMC9, one of the first configuration changes I made was to change the location of where VideoWave would store proxy files. I did this, because I like to limit the amount of temporary data that gets stored to C: -- this is so I can keep C: as defragged as possible. I have a separate "data" drive M:, which I use for this purpose.

So, I went into VW->tools->options and changed the proxy file location from C:\Docum... to M:\temp\Roxio\proxy. This setting was accepted, and data was even stored there when I created a small video. But, the next time I opened VW, the proxy file location went back to the old default location of C:\Documents and Settings\me\... and all data that had been stored to M:\temp\Roxio\proxy was copied over.

This is very annoying. A possible work-around that I just though of would be to create a link to M:\temp\Roxio\proxy and place this link in the location of the default proxy folder. I guess I'll give that a shot. But, is there a _REAL_ fix to this problem?

Thanks,

Josh
UPDATE: I have experimented with adding links (windows "shortcuts") to try to redirect VideoWave over to my M: drive. No luck. Each time I try to replace the actual Roxio or VidoeUI9 or proxy folder with a shortcut, the folder is simply recreated by the application. The shortcut is ignored, because it's actually a file with a .lnk extension.

Anyhoo, my idea didn't work, so hopefully someone here has a fix for this.

Thanks again.

Hi, Josh

This is going to be of no help in resolving your problem because I too have the same problem. But, in searching these forums, I believe we are the only two users to have experienced this. This "problem" was reported during beta testing EMC9 (by me) but I was the only one who had the issue so I figured it was some problem with my system and not the software. I still suspect that is the case since you are the only other user to report having a problem with changing proxy file location.

I gave up trying to figure out a fix and repartitioned my c: partition to add an additional 20 gb of space (taken from the D: partition on the same physical hard drive.)

I know that does not help, but sometimes it is just nice to know you are not the only one with a problem. Hopefully someone else with more computer savvy than me can make some suggestions that will help us both. If you figure out a fix, please post.

This post has been edited by Merv: 15 March 2007 - 06:20 PM

[jokono]

Well, after some more experimentation, I finally have a solution -- at least for NEW video projects. I don't know if it was a specific one of these steps that solved the problem, or if they're all necessary, but here's what I did:

First, I changed the location of my Application Data directory:
1. Open C:\documents and settings\<your_user_name>
2. The application data folder is hidden, so click tools->folder options->view and check "Show hidden files and folders"
3. Create a folder named with your_user_name on your other partition.
4. Right-drag the application data folder into that folder (choose "move here".) If windows complains about some files being in use, boot to safe mode and then move it.
5. Moving the folder should have change the registry entry for you, but just to make sure, open regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
Double-click on AppData, and make sure it's set to your new location.

Now, the next time you open Video Wave, DO NOT choose to open/edit a previous project. Start a new one. Then, go to tools->options and change your proxy and AudioFilter folders to their new location.

Exit video wave, re-launch it and... hopefully it works for you like it did for me

I like this solution, because it moves even more temporary data off of my C: drive.

[Merv]

Well, after some more experimentation, I finally have a solution -- at least for NEW video projects. I don't know if it was a specific one of these steps that solved the problem, or if they're all necessary, but here's what I did:

First, I changed the location of my Application Data directory:
1. Open C:\documents and settings\<your_user_name>
2. The application data folder is hidden, so click tools->folder options->view and check "Show hidden files and folders"
3. Create a folder named with your_user_name on your other partition.
4. Right-drag the application data folder into that folder (choose "move here".) If windows complains about some files being in use, boot to safe mode and then move it.
5. Moving the folder should have change the registry entry for you, but just to make sure, open regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
Double-click on AppData, and make sure it's set to your new location.

Now, the next time you open Video Wave, DO NOT choose to open/edit a previous project. Start a new one. Then, go to tools->options and change your proxy and AudioFilter folders to their new location.

Exit video wave, re-launch it and... hopefully it works for you like it did for me

I like this solution, because it moves even more temporary data off of my C: drive.

Thanks you for the information. Moving the Application Data folder scares me a little since it contains folders/files for many programs, not just Roxio. Have you noticed any problems with any other programs?

For the time being, I think I will just stick with the default proxy location since I increased the size of my C: partition. I would be interested to know if "down the line" you experience any issues related to moving that folder.

Thanks again for working through this and posting a fix.

This post has been edited by Merv: 18 March 2007 - 11:21 AM

[jeanrosenfeld]

An alternative might be to edit the registry at

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Roxio\VideoUI9\Directories
Modify the data for the Proxy value to show the path to the folder you want.
It should stick in the registry. Possibly the problem is that when you change it in Videowave it does not update the registry.

[Merv]

An alternative might be to edit the registry at

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Roxio\VideoUI9\Directories
Modify the data for the Proxy value to show the path to the folder you want.
It should stick in the registry. Possibly the problem is that when you change it in Videowave it does not update the registry.

Thank you so much, Jean. That worked I thought it might have something to do with the registry, but I did not have a clue where to look. You pointed me in the right direction and now I can change my proxy files to wherever I want.

Thanks again.

This post has been edited by Merv: 18 March 2007 - 02:10 PM

[jeanrosenfeld]

Glad it works.

I have deleted the remainder of this post.In the light of Malatekid's reply, it was clearly not useful information. Apologies if anyone who read it was misled.

This post has been edited by jeanrosenfeld: 18 March 2007 - 05:31 PM

[malatekid]

So that is an answer to the often asked question: how does one rip the audio from a video clip? Just load it in Videowave and copy the ripped audio from the proxy folder. No need even to play the clip or to save the project :-). I think I might post that as a tip.

Hi Jean,

There is already a built in functionality to extract the audio from a video clip. There is no need to actually load the video clip in Videowave.

In Videowave, click on Add Photo/Video or Show Media Selector. Then right click the video clip filename and select Extract Audio.

In Media Manager, go to the Folders tab, navigate to the video clip, right click the file and select Extract Audio.

This post has been edited by malatekid: 18 March 2007 - 05:05 PM

[Merv]

Glad it works.

Your question prompted another question inm my mind: what are those proxy files? Well, it appears that Videowave make a copy of the internal audio track of each clip loaded into it, as a.wav file. The names are clearly recognisable.
So that is an answer to the often asked question: how does one rip the audio from a video clip? Just load it in Videowave and copy the ripped audio from the proxy folder. No need even to play the clip or to save the project :-). I think I might post that as a tip.
That said, they do accumulate, since Videowave apparently does not delete them. The Proxy folder on my system now takes up 1.2GB on my hard drive. But I found I could just delete them (and the proxy.dat file as well).

I never did understand why some media was included in the proxy file and others were not. For example, in one project I did, about one half of the still pictures were in the proxy file while the others were not. None of the pictures had been modified in any way in Videowave, so I could not grasp why some pictures were there and others were not. It does appear, however, that any audio file is placed in the proxy file whether it be native, background, narration, or whatever.

One of the many mysteries to me.

[jokono]

An alternative might be to edit the registry at

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Roxio\VideoUI9\Directories
Modify the data for the Proxy value to show the path to the folder you want.
It should stick in the registry. Possibly the problem is that when you change it in Videowave it does not update the registry.

Hi Jean,

Thanks for the information. Your solution is definitely closer to what I initially had in mind. But, now that I've made the move, I like having my App Data folder relocated.

Just FYI (for other readers of this thread) I have not, yet, run into any problems with the new location. I believe that most applications, if they're designed correctly, will reference the registry to find the application data folder. This is because, A) It's the proper way to do it, and It keeps the application from having to know the user's name -- the user's name is part of the path to the app data folder.

Thanks again for your help.

Best regards,

Josh