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#1 pam_mortensen

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 05:42 AM

My computer came with a "Free Upgrade to Vista" and I just received an email that I can download it now.  I just got my EMC9 working...should I just forget Vista?  What are the advantages to upgrading to Vista?

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 05:53 AM

QUOTE (pam_mortensen @ Mar 14 2007, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My computer came with a "Free Upgrade to Vista" and I just received an email that I can download it now.  I just got my EMC9 working...should I just forget Vista?  What are the advantages to upgrading to Vista?

Thanks!


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Posted 14 March 2007 - 06:02 AM

QUOTE (pam_mortensen @ Mar 14 2007, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My computer came with a "Free Upgrade to Vista" and I just received an email that I can download it now.  I just got my EMC9 working...should I just forget Vista?  What are the advantages to upgrading to Vista?

Thanks!

Not many advantages as far as I can tell and it's a crap shoot to use it now as your only OS.  Plus, what version are you getting?  If it's the Basic, completely forget about it.  
Drivers are still and issue as well.  When the time comes and you want to upgrade, make sure you don't just do an upgrade install but a complete format and install.  That will make a difference.
Another suggestion is to run a dual boot so that you can use both XP and Vista when you want.  Got a game that won't play in Vista?  Boot to XP.  DRM is a nagging problem made worse in Vista too!

Just curious, most of the 'free upgrades' are sent on a disc.  Who did you buy a computer from that is letting you download a copy?
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#4 pam_mortensen

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 07:22 AM

Thanks!  I think I will pass.  We bought the computer from HP.  I jsut rechecked my email from HP and it looks like it is a disc...I didn't really read the fine print, I was more interested in whether or not I should.  When we bought the computer back in October we were wondering if we should just wait for Vista until they said they would provide it free when it comes out.
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NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 [Display adapter]
HP dv9000V Laptop
XP Home Edition
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256MN NVDIA GeForce® Go 7600
HP IMPRING Finish + Microphone
2.0 GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x1024MB)
200 GB 5400 RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive
300 GB Hard Drive Kit for xb3000 Base
HP xb3000 Notebook Expansion Base
Super Multi 8X DVD+/-RW w/DL Support
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 08:11 AM

If it's a disc and you can get it for free,go for it.You never know when you may go "I wish I had a Vista disc"..lol.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (tbrewst @ Mar 14 2007, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's a disc and you can get it for free,go for it.You never know when you may go "I wish I had a Vista disc"..lol.


Good point!  They only gave me until the end of the month.
Not that any of this makes any sense to me, but if it helps...my system:

NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 [Display adapter]
HP dv9000V Laptop
XP Home Edition
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17.0" WSXGA+BrightviewWidescreen 1680x1050
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 01:10 PM

You will never complete a project with Vista without a 3 finger salute to reboot your PC..

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 02:26 PM

Hi,

Contrary to all negative Vista feelings around here, I have hardly any issues with running Vista Ultimate on my 2 year old low-budget-super-market-laptop (seriously: I bought it at the supermarket). And after a graphics driver update (thank God for www.laptopvideo2go.com) even EMC9 runs smooth on my Vista-laptop  tongue.gif

Having said that, I agree with the "never change a winning team" statement, so if EMC9 is working fine on XP for you... why bother upgrading Windows if EMC is the program you're concerned about most? On the other hand: if you can get Vista on a disk for (almost) free: GO GET IT! When XP was released, there also was a lot of sceptism around (though admitted, not as much as with Vista) but after a service pack or two, everybody is quite happy with it. Chances are Vista is going the same road and you wish you had an upgrade CD/DVD in about a years time.

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#9 The Highlander

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 04:50 PM

Good points Martin
And i agree with all of them, and i was a beta tester of Vista, and let me say in the computing world there is a saying that i feel says it all..

If it isnt broke , then dont fix it

Vista works well if you have no old apps to run (accounting stuff or CAD or desktop publishing) .
Vista has limited drivers at the moment, but they are being released daily so it will change soon.
Vista works well with EMC9 deluxe but not with EMC8 ect.

And allways take the free upgrade vouchers, get the CD or DVD and Keys sent to you, as you will allways find a time that you will want it? sell it? or give it away...
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 07:52 AM

If you want to seriously get frustrated with your new computer and become a regular on these forum boards, upgrade to Vista.  You computing experience will never be the same.    ohmy.gif

I bought a new computer from Dell with Vista Standard and it basicly became a glorified internet explorer.  I couldn't install any of my Graphic software, print through another computer running Xp, and use my MP3 player.  I decided to just bite the bullet and do a clean install of a retail version of XP Home.  Now everything works great including EMC 9.

Wait at least 1 - 2 years before you consider loading Vista on your computer.

Just my 2 cents.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 08:17 AM

QUOTE (Tom4Panic @ Mar 15 2007, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you want to seriously get frustrated with your new computer and become a regular on these forum boards, upgrade to Vista.  You computing experience will never be the same.    ohmy.gif

I bought a new computer from Dell with Vista Standard and it basicly became a glorified internet explorer.  I couldn't install any of my Graphic software, print through another computer running Xp, and use my MP3 player.  I decided to just bite the bullet and do a clean install of a retail version of XP Home.  Now everything works great including EMC 9.

Wait at least 1 - 2 years before you consider loading Vista on your computer.

Just my 2 cents.

I've not heard of Vista Standard but do you mean Basic? MS lists the different versions here but I do see mention of this in a google search and am still not sure what it has that's different.
Vista Basic is not worth anything at all and you might as well forget about doing anything but web searching. It should not even be available IMO.
Any new OS is frustrating but when a new OS is not really new or needed, it is even more so.
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 05:12 AM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Mar 15 2007, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've not heard of Vista Standard but do you mean Basic? MS lists the different versions here but I do see mention of this in a google search and am still not sure what it has that's different.
Vista Basic is not worth anything at all and you might as well forget about doing anything but web searching. It should not even be available IMO.
Any new OS is frustrating but when a new OS is not really new or needed, it is even more so.



Sorry, I meant Basic not Standard.  I couldn't remember the name.  I really have tried to block the whole Vista thing out of my memory.  I was so frustrating.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE (Tom4Panic @ Mar 16 2007, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I meant Basic not Standard.  I couldn't remember the name.  I really have tried to block the whole Vista thing out of my memory.  I was so frustrating.

I'm afraid to tell you that you've wasted your time and money on Vista Basic and Bill Gates should not have even offered Basic as an option.  Switching to Vista 100% now is not a good idea until the bugs are out and fixed but even then, you'd want the Premium version.
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Mar 17 2007, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid to tell you that you've wasted your time and money on Vista Basic and Bill Gates should not have even offered Basic as an option.  Switching to Vista 100% now is not a good idea until the bugs are out and fixed but even then, you'd want the Premium version.

And let’s not even go into the limited application supported products and drivers yet in all versions of Vista.
our OEM suppliers are saying to tell our customers not to look at vista for 4 to 6 months or until a service pack has come out that sorts out a large number of the ongoing issues and drivers ect.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 05:44 PM

DON"T DO IT> I DID WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!  I upgrade to Premium and have lots of problems

Edited by beaglestar, 20 March 2007 - 05:45 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2007 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (beaglestar @ Mar 20 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DON"T DO IT> I DID WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!  I upgrade to Premium and have lots of problems

If you do take the plunge, don't upgrade, install fresh or your many problems will be exponentially worse!
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Posted 21 March 2007 - 06:54 AM

Very strange all the gloom and doom with Vista. Here I am running Vista Ultimate with EMC 8 and burning dvds and editing sound files and all of you telling me it doesn't work. I also have a new laptop with Vista Premium on it and I love it. Yes, there are some problems with drivers but mainly from companies that seem to be taking a rediculous amount of time to upgrade their software. I now have all of my hardware working, it was a case of manipulating the compatibility and the administrator rights. I have dumped XP now and will never go back.

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 07:00 AM

QUOTE (jbarber @ Mar 21 2007, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very strange all the gloom and doom with Vista. Here I am running Vista Ultimate with EMC 8 and burning dvds and editing sound files and all of you telling me it doesn't work. I also have a new laptop with Vista Premium on it and I love it. Yes, there are some problems with drivers but mainly from companies that seem to be taking a rediculous amount of time to upgrade their software. I now have all of my hardware working, it was a case of manipulating the compatibility and the administrator rights. I have dumped XP now and will never go back.

James

LOL, I'm very happy for you especially that you're getting 8 to work. You are one of the few. I do think, for some odd reason, the Ultimate version has caused less problems.

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I have dumped XP now and will never go back.

I read the same statement in the Linux forums all the time.  laugh.gif
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Posted 21 March 2007 - 08:50 AM

The only problems I still have is the calender on my palm tx still doesn't sync. I did a clean install of Vista and that seemed to work for me. I setup a raid drive 1st and installed vista there before finally reformatting my main drive. This way I could test things before committing. I have always bought EMC because I love the interface but still have not committed to EMC9. By the posts it certainly doesn't look like it is any improvement over 8. I really dislike the activation part for the mpeg encoder so I will not buy this product unless this is removed.


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Posted 21 March 2007 - 08:57 AM

QUOTE (jbarber @ Mar 21 2007, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I have always bought EMC because I love the interface but still have not committed to EMC9. By the posts it certainly doesn't look like it is any improvement over 8. I really dislike the activation part for the mpeg encoder so I will not buy this product unless this is removed.
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The mpeg encoder is 3rd party, and Roxio gets charged per person using it.  I am not sure how it works on a reinstall, but there must be some unique code associated with each piece of software.

This is not likely to be removed, but you could contact Roxio directly, and ask.
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