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#1 JayT

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 10:04 AM

Well I need some help.  I've been playing around with this software for about 2 weeks now, and I'm still unable to get my first production finished.  I've read though the boards nemerous times and still I'm having difficulties.  First off check that I was using the latest Gefore Video card drivers availble, and I have the latest DirectX installed.  So now to explain what is happening

I recorded some video on my camcorder and transfered it from the tape to VideoWave 9.  From there Idesigned my whole production and them moved it over into MyDVD9 to create the menu and burn it.  Once I created the whoel setup I went to burn the DVD and it kept freezing at 10%.  I read through a lot of topics in here and eventually found out that it is sometimes related to a bad spot on the movie.  So I went in a wiped out the spot it was freezing on and retried the burn it passed this point and then proceeded to freeze a few second later in the production.  I am now up to about 19% in the movie an it is still freezeing at random points.  Since getting to the 19% point I have been removing chunks of video at about 2 seconds at a time tring to get it to go past 19%, but everytime I remove the last section of video it just keeps freezing further back in the production.  I'm getting very tired of editing what was my finished product just to get it to burn to DVD.  When I review the recording there doesn't appear to be anything wrong that I can see, I am doing something wrong?

Also what is the easiest way to test if the movie is going to successfully burn to the DVD so I can edit and burn faster.

Any help would be appreciated.  I am really hoping that I can get this complete by tomorrow.

Edit: I just had an idea.  I had made my original movie in Windows Movie Maker before I bought the Roxio package.  So I went back to my old movie in WMM format and imported that into MyDVD and set it to burn.  So far it has got to 26% with no stopping problems and all the clips that I had to remove from my VideoWave9 prodution are still in the WWM production.  So what am I doing wrong in Viedowave9 to case the buring errors?

I would really like to use VideoWave9 to create the movie as it is a much more robust tool, but at this rate I may have to re-edit my WWM production and ust burn it that way.

Edited by JayT, 31 March 2007 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 31 March 2007 - 10:49 AM

How is your camcorder hooked up to your PC when you capture?

What are the specs of your PC?
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE (james_hardin @ Mar 31 2007, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How is your camcorder hooked up to your PC when you capture?

What are the specs of your PC?


AMD Dual Core 4600
2GB Ram
Geforce  7300 GS Video Card (128 or 256 Ram.. Can't remember)
Over 65Gig of free space

I'm caputring the video through a fire wire.

As I stated above, when I captured and edit the video in Windows Movie Maker the movie burns correctly in MyDVD with no problems.  When I capture and edit through VideoWave9 I have multiple errors coming up on the video when I burn it through MyDVD.

Logically it sounds like my hardware is setup and working correctly, I just not sure if I'm doing something wrong in VideoWave9 with the capturing part.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 03:22 PM

Since V9 relies heavily on your video card, you would want to look at updating your GeForce card drivers.

At the same time make sure you have the latest DirectX update.

Your HD free space is not that great which makes a fresh defrag vital.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (james_hardin @ Mar 31 2007, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since V9 relies heavily on your video card, you would want to look at updating your GeForce card drivers.

At the same time make sure you have the latest DirectX update.

Your HD free space is not that great which makes a fresh defrag vital.


I have the latest Video card drivers and the lastest DirectX update.  Saw that in many posts before so that was the first thing I did.  I'll give the defrag a try.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 02:17 AM

If defrag does not help, another thing to try would be to go under Tools – Options and set your rendering to Software.

This bypasses the video card but limits the transitions you can use and may increase the render time. Still it would be another thing to try…
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Posted 01 April 2007 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (james_hardin @ Apr 1 2007, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If defrag does not help, another thing to try would be to go under Tools – Options and set your rendering to Software.

This bypasses the video card but limits the transitions you can use and may increase the render time. Still it would be another thing to try…


I tried the Defrag thing and that didn't help.  I also tried the software rendering and it didn't help either.  The process went slower, but still paused at the same points.

With many failed attempts at this I decided to recaputre the video from the camcorder.  Once I captured the video I went right away to the button to burn with MyDVD Express.  It appeared that the original caputre video fully encodes.  So I went and started to edit the captured video to remake my video and after I fully edited it, it now won't encode to durn again.  

I haven't added anything special into the production yet, just used the split option to cut out the scenes that I don't want in the video.  Should I be using the split function to do this or is there another way to get video out of the production.

This is really frustrating  dry.gif .. but I hope in the end it will be well worth it.. cool.gif

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:31 PM

I am stumped!
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Posted 14 April 2007 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (james_hardin @ Apr 3 2007, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am stumped!


So am I.  I just went out am purchased a ATI X1650 to remove the idea of it being a Gforce driver issue.  But when I edit/trim the video still it still freezes during the burn to ISO process.  So I now know its not a driver issue.  Everything works fine in Windows Movie Maker, but the quality seem much lower.  This makes no sence to me.  I can't think of anything else I can do.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 02:47 AM

I put out a call for Help from the other Gurus. Maybe they can see what I am missing!

Since then: Some of the ideas to help narrow this down…

Open your Project in VideoWave and Output As an mpg from there. – this will test the source files for rendering.

Bring that mpg into MyDVD and Burn to File. Don't do anything fancy, just add the file as a Title and burn to file.

Edited by james_hardin, 15 April 2007 - 08:10 AM.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE (james_hardin @ Apr 15 2007, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I put out a call for Help from the other Gurus. Maybe they can see what I am missing!

Since then: Some of the ideas to help narrow this down…

Open your Project in VideoWave and Output As an mpg from there. – this will test the source files for rendering.

Bring that mpg into MyDVD and Burn to File. Don't do anything fancy, just add the file as a Title and burn to file.


Ok so the rendering in mpg-2 oformat is not working.  It is still doing the pauses at specific parts in the video.  Since I now see how to render the production within VideoWave I decided to try a different rendering output.  I selected Windows Media Video 9 640x480 VBR (don't really know what that is), but it seems to be coding the video fine (although very slow).  It got past some of the pause parts so far.  So now the quest is why can't I encode n mpg-2 format properly.

Edit - I tried encoding with MPG-2 Best and mpg-2 Better quality and still same pausing result.

I also tried DV format AVI and that seems to render fine as well.

So now my question is, which encoding is the best to use when trying to make a DVD playable on a TV.  Also what could be causing my MPG-2 encoding to be failing?

Edited by JayT, 18 April 2007 - 08:13 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:11 AM

Similar problem, solution that worked for me is at the end
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=20685

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (JayT @ Apr 18 2007, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok so the rendering in mpg-2 oformat is not working.  It is still doing the pauses at specific parts in the video.  Since I now see how to render the production within VideoWave I decided to try a different rendering output.  I selected Windows Media Video 9 640x480 VBR (don't really know what that is), but it seems to be coding the video fine (although very slow).  It got past some of the pause parts so far.  So now the quest is why can't I encode n mpg-2 format properly.

Edit - I tried encoding with MPG-2 Best and mpg-2 Better quality and still same pausing result.

I also tried DV format AVI and that seems to render fine as well.

So now my question is, which encoding is the best to use when trying to make a DVD playable on a TV.  Also what could be causing my MPG-2 encoding to be failing?

The "problem" seems to be from the source files… You mentioned Firewire but never said if you are using V9 to capture with???

If so, I would suggest setting capture to DV AVI format. It uses a minimum of compression resulting in a large file but the payback in editing is well worth it!

Give that a try and see if it improves the final output.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (james_hardin @ Apr 18 2007, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The "problem" seems to be from the source files… You mentioned Firewire but never said if you are using V9 to capture with???

If so, I would suggest setting capture to DV AVI format. It uses a minimum of compression resulting in a large file but the payback in editing is well worth it!

Give that a try and see if it improves the final output.


Ok so I'm taking the video off of a Sony DCR-TRV33.  I am using VW9 to capture the video.  I'm trying to figure out how to set the capture to DV AVI.  When I check the capture settings the options that I have are DVD HQ, DVD SP, DVD, LP and VCD.  I don't see anything about DV AVI.  Maybe I'm missing something or don't have something set right.  I'll keep looking around through.

I really appreciate the help on this I'm excited to someday actually finish this project.

Edit:  Ok so I figured out that I was using a USB 2.0 cable to do the transfer (Someone told me that USB 2 and firewire were the same thing).  After some research I found that they weren't and attached my camera to my laptop to capture the video again since my PC doesn't have firewire (going to have to get me a firewire card).  I've started the editing sequence again and with a few edits the rendering process is going correctly  to MPG format.  So I guess I'll do a complete edit and see what happens, and I'll let you all know.  Thanks.

Edited by JayT, 19 April 2007 - 06:27 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2007 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (JayT @ Apr 18 2007, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok so I'm taking the video off of a Sony DCR-TRV33.  I am using VW9 to capture the video.  I'm trying to figure out how to set the capture to DV AVI.  When I check the capture settings the options that I have are DVD HQ, DVD SP, DVD, LP and VCD.  I don't see anything about DV AVI.  Maybe I'm missing something or don't have something set right.  I'll keep looking around through.

I really appreciate the help on this I'm excited to someday actually finish this project.

Edit:  Ok so I figured out that I was using a USB 2.0 cable to do the transfer (Someone told me that USB 2 and firewire were the same thing).  After some research I found that they weren't and attached my camera to my laptop to capture the video again since my PC doesn't have firewire (going to have to get me a firewire card).  I've started the editing sequence again and with a few edits the rendering process is going correctly  to MPG format.  So I guess I'll do a complete edit and see what happens, and I'll let you all know.  Thanks.

Jay: Yes thinking that USB and Firewire are the same is very misleading!

You should be able to secure a Firewire card relatively cheap these days. As far as capture quality, note where I highlighted Media Import below.

Keep us informed as to your progress.

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Edited by james_hardin, 20 April 2007 - 12:49 PM.

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