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Label creator help Getting labeler to recognize a production

#1 User is offline   Jim B 

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 01:41 PM

I've hit the total density wall. I've converted some tapes to digital files and put them together in a production using music disc creator. Now, I'm trying to make a disc label using label creator. How do I fill the track list? If I use the fill smart objects function, I get infomation from a completely different production. Is there a step-by-step proceedure written somewhere that will show me how to creat a label?

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 18 2007, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've hit the total density wall. I've converted some tapes to digital files and put them together in a production using music disc creator. Now, I'm trying to make a disc label using label creator. How do I fill the track list? If I use the fill smart objects function, I get infomation from a completely different production. Is there a step-by-step proceedure written somewhere that will show me how to creat a label?

Thanks, Jim Birke [/quote]

Are you using the real Label Creator or the Assistant? The real one is reached from the Home, Application page. When you select the auto fill from disc option, is it possible that the label creator is reading the information on a different disc- either in that drive or another? Try shutting it down and then reopening it from the Home Application menu to see if it will pick up the right information this time.

I'm assuming that the information on the disc is correct and is even there. What kind of disc did you make - audio cd, mp3, or audio DVD?

This post has been edited by sknis: 18 April 2007 - 01:57 PM

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:22 PM

I'm not working from a cd. I thought I could work with either a C2D or a dmsa file. I put the disc in the CD drive, selected one of the generic styles, And the track list showed up correctly. So one problem solved. One other problem. The last word of multi word titles showed up in the duration column. Why's that? One more question. Does this say you have to burn a disc before you can generate a label? Thanks again.


QUOTE (sknis @ Apr 18 2007, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 18 2007, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've hit the total density wall. I've converted some tapes to digital files and put them together in a production using music disc creator. Now, I'm trying to make a disc label using label creator. How do I fill the track list? If I use the fill smart objects function, I get infomation from a completely different production. Is there a step-by-step proceedure written somewhere that will show me how to creat a label?

Thanks, Jim Birke

Are you using the real Label Creator or the Assistant? The real one is reached from the Home, Application page. When you select the auto fill from disc option, is it possible that the label creator is reading the information on a different disc- either in that drive or another? Try shutting it down and then reopening it from the Home Application menu to see if it will pick up the right information this time.

I'm assuming that the information on the disc is correct and is even there. What kind of disc did you make - audio cd, mp3, or audio DVD?

This post has been edited by Jim B: 18 April 2007 - 04:31 PM

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 04:03 AM

QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 18 2007, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not working from a cd. I thought I could work with either a C2D or a dmsa file. I put the disc in the CD drive, selected one of the generic styles, And the track list showed up correctly. So one problem solved. One other problem. The last word of multi word titles showed up in the duration column. Why's that? One more question. Does this say you have to burn a disc before you can generate a label? Thanks again.
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Try eliminating spaces by using underlines. The program may only give you a certain amount of characters before it goes to duration. I don't know if that will work or just wrap the text.

You don't have to burn a disc if you don't want to use auto-fill from disc. Think about it. smile.gif You could always burn the music to a RW disc and keep reusing it. I don't know if mounting a virtual drive with that image file and then trying to use that would work.

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 11:30 AM

The number of characters didn't seem to make a difference. As long as the title had more than one word, the last one went to the duration column.

QUOTE (sknis @ Apr 19 2007, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 18 2007, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not working from a cd. I thought I could work with either a C2D or a dmsa file. I put the disc in the CD drive, selected one of the generic styles, And the track list showed up correctly. So one problem solved. One other problem. The last word of multi word titles showed up in the duration column. Why's that? One more question. Does this say you have to burn a disc before you can generate a label? Thanks again.


Try eliminating spaces by using underlines. The program may only give you a certain amount of characters before it goes to duration. I don't know if that will work or just wrap the text.

You don't have to burn a disc if you don't want to use auto-fill from disc. Think about it. smile.gif You could always burn the music to a RW disc and keep reusing it. I don't know if mounting a virtual drive with that image file and then trying to use that would work.

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 19 2007, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The number of characters didn't seem to make a difference. As long as the title had more than one word, the last one went to the duration column.
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I have not had this problem in V8 Label Creator.
Are you looking at the list of tracks strictly in the text box?
How does it look in the object display (right click the track listing text box and choose properties).
Is there no track time displayed under duration?
Maybe the data was ported over to the object improperly somehow?
I generally burn cd's with CD-Text activated - then Label Creator takes the track info directly off the cd-text on the disk when you auto-fill.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 04:48 PM

I did what I had to to fix the the original disc label. I put a different disc in the drive and the track list is ok. Some of the titles are so long that they run into the hole in the center of the label. Sknis mentioned wraping the text. How do you do this?

QUOTE (rich86 @ Apr 19 2007, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 19 2007, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> The number of characters didn't seem to make a difference. As long as the title had more than one word, the last one went to the duration column.
I have not had this problem in V8 Label Creator.
Are you looking at the list of tracks strictly in the text box?
How does it look in the object display (right click the track listing text box and choose properties).
Is there no track time displayed under duration?
Maybe the data was ported over to the object improperly somehow?
I generally burn cd's with CD-Text activated - then Label Creator takes the track info directly off the cd-text on the disk when you auto-fill.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 19 2007, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did what I had to to fix the the original disc label. I put a different disc in the drive and the track list is ok. Some of the titles are so long that they run into the hole in the center of the label. Sknis mentioned wraping the text. How do you do this?
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In Label Creator with your .jwl open, and the disc layout displayed:
right click on the box with the text you want to modify
choose "text object type" - then "curved text".
You can also do this from a toolbar towards the top that appears when you click on a text box or the track listing area.
Although this works fine for a text box, I don't believe it will work for a track listing.
If you shape the track text box so it stays on the outer edges or beyond of the disc shape, choosing "flow text" should start the title names close to the edge of the disc layout itself.
That should help. It still displays each track name as a straight line of text, but it wraps the text to avoid printing in the center hole area.
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Posted 25 April 2007 - 04:46 PM

Thanks. I know this helps but, it dosen't look very good.

QUOTE (rich86 @ Apr 21 2007, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 19 2007, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I did what I had to to fix the the original disc label. I put a different disc in the drive and the track list is ok. Some of the titles are so long that they run into the hole in the center of the label. Sknis mentioned wraping the text. How do you do this?


In Label Creator with your .jwl open, and the disc layout displayed:
right click on the box with the text you want to modify
choose "text object type" - then "curved text".
You can also do this from a toolbar towards the top that appears when you click on a text box or the track listing area.
Although this works fine for a text box, I don't believe it will work for a track listing.
If you shape the track text box so it stays on the outer edges or beyond of the disc shape, choosing "flow text" should start the title names close to the edge of the disc layout itself.
That should help. It still displays each track name as a straight line of text, but it wraps the text to avoid printing in the center hole area.

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Posted 26 April 2007 - 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 25 2007, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks. I know this helps but, it dosen't look very good.
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I understand - but I think that may be as good as it gets.
Personally I don't put track names on cd labels because it just gets too busy and crowded, etc.
I put the track names on the cd case folder or whatever, and generally include things like artist, title, recording/release year, # of tracks, total time length of cd, maybe some cover-art on the cd label.
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Posted 26 April 2007 - 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jim B @ Apr 25 2007, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks. I know this helps but, it dosen't look very good.
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Making the text box smaller also wraps the text but that will look worse beacuse it doesn't know how to adjust for partial words. Did you try using a very small font - if you can still read it?
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