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[lrcite]

Greetings,

I am using EMC 7 with all current updates on Windows XP with SP2 and all current updates.

Is seems like Roxio has taken over the Copy to CD function of Windows XP Operating System. When I want to copy files from My Document to a Recordable CD through the Windows XP function Roxio wants to do this service instead of Windows.

How does Roxio disable this function in Windows? Or does it?

I would like to use both programs side by side. I like the Creator Classic portion of EMC 7. I also like Windows XP ablity to copy files to a CD.

When I want to give a set of documents or files to a co-worker I want to be able to use Windows XP Copy to CD function to put the files on a Recordable CD. Not everyone I know uses Roxio.

Thanks in advance for your help and comments,

Leigh

Edited by lrcite, 11 February 2006 - 02:52 PM.

[ausguy]

Perhaps you have drag to disc enabled I would unistall this feature as
it causes more problems than it is worth or while in widows explorer
right click on your burner and see if cd recording is enabled

[cdanteek]

lrcite, on Feb 11 2006, 10:48 PM, said:

Greetings,

I am using EMC 7 with all current updates on Windows XP with SP2 and all current updates.

Is seems like Roxio has taken over the Copy to CD function of Windows XP Operating System. When I want to copy files from My Document to a Recordable CD through the Windows XP function Roxio wants to do this service instead of Windows.

How does Roxio disable this function in Windows? Or does it?

I would like to use both programs side by side. I like the Creator Classic portion of EMC 7. I also like Windows XP ablity to copy files to a CD.

When I want to give a set of documents or files to a co-worker I want to be able to use Windows XP Copy to CD function to put the files on a Recordable CD. Not everyone I know uses Roxio.

Thanks in advance for your help and comments,

Leigh

"imapi.exe is a part of the Microsoft Windows operating system, more specifically the Image Mastering Applications Programming Interface, which is used for CD recording. This program is important for the stable and secure running of your computer and should not be terminated"

On my systems with any burning software installed I set IMAPI to manual. Against all the advice I read! My systems run better in xpsp2 in manual and have no burning problems in any software I use. But don't use IMAPI buggy. You can find it here, right click my computer, manage, expand services and look for IMAPI.


cdanteek

[grandpabruce]

lrcite, on Feb 11 2006, 04:48 PM, said:

Greetings,

I am using EMC 7 with all current updates on Windows XP with SP2 and all current updates.

Is seems like Roxio has taken over the Copy to CD function of Windows XP Operating System. When I want to copy files from My Document to a Recordable CD through the Windows XP function Roxio wants to do this service instead of Windows.

How does Roxio disable this function in Windows? Or does it?

I would like to use both programs side by side. I like the Creator Classic portion of EMC 7. I also like Windows XP ablity to copy files to a CD.

When I want to give a set of documents or files to a co-worker I want to be able to use Windows XP Copy to CD function to put the files on a Recordable CD. Not everyone I know uses Roxio.

Thanks in advance for your help and comments,

Leigh

If you use Creator Classic to burn the documents to a CD, others do not need to have Roxio installed to retrieve them.  They simply put the CD in their drive, and copy the documents to their hard drive.

[poutine]

lrcite, on Feb 11 2006, 02:48 PM, said:

Greetings,

I am using EMC 7 with all current updates on Windows XP with SP2 and all current updates.

Is seems like Roxio has taken over the Copy to CD function of Windows XP Operating System. When I want to copy files from My Document to a Recordable CD through the Windows XP function Roxio wants to do this service instead of Windows.

How does Roxio disable this function in Windows? Or does it?

I would like to use both programs side by side. I like the Creator Classic portion of EMC 7. I also like Windows XP ablity to copy files to a CD.

When I want to give a set of documents or files to a co-worker I want to be able to use Windows XP Copy to CD function to put the files on a Recordable CD. Not everyone I know uses Roxio.

Thanks in advance for your help and comments,

Leigh

Coincidentally the Built in Disk Copier in XP is actually supplied by Roxio , guess everyone knew that though eh

[grandpabruce]

colbaby, on Feb 11 2006, 07:07 PM, said:

Coincidentally the Built in Disk Copier in XP is actually supplied by Roxio , guess everyone knew that though eh

Yeah, it is a version supplied to Microsoft from back near the time of Roxio buying out the software from Adaptec.  I knew that, but does your post have a point?  Just wondering.

[lynn98109]

ausguy, on Feb 11 2006, 03:53 PM, said:

Perhaps you have drag to disc enabled I would unistall this feature as
it causes more problems than it is worth or while in widows explorer
right click on your burner and see if cd recording is enabled

Agreed.

If the OP wants to KEEP the data, NEVER format the disc.

Once the disc is formatted for Packet-Writing, it will call up the Packet-Writing program that created it any time it is inserted in the computer.  A formatted disc can ONLY be read by the program that created it - Packet-Writing programs are proprietary, so cannot read each other's Packet-Writing.

Further, Packet-Written discs have a tendancy to fail (usually at the worst possible time).

If RW media is used for Packet-Writing, the fading to blank (which happens with RW media, as the re-crystalized alloy de-crystalizes) is usually speeded up.

If the formatted disc is RW media, it can be erased, and reused for testing purposes.  If it is R media, the best thing to do is to save any data you want to keep back to the Hard Drive, and carefully put the disc itself somewhere else, such as the trash can.

To KEEP the data, use a Sessions-based program, such as Classic Creator, or the built-in WinXP burning program.  To LOSE the data permantly - ah, that is what Packet-Writing does so well!!

Lynn

[james_hardin]

lrcite, on Feb 11 2006, 05:48 PM, said:

Greetings,

I am using EMC 7 with all current updates on Windows XP with SP2 and all current updates.

Is seems like Roxio has taken over the Copy to CD function of Windows XP Operating System. When I want to copy files from My Document to a Recordable CD through the Windows XP function Roxio wants to do this service instead of Windows.

How does Roxio disable this function in Windows? Or does it?

I would like to use both programs side by side. I like the Creator Classic portion of EMC 7. I also like Windows XP ablity to copy files to a CD.

When I want to give a set of documents or files to a co-worker I want to be able to use Windows XP Copy to CD function to put the files on a Recordable CD. Not everyone I know uses Roxio.

Thanks in advance for your help and comments,

Leigh

It is not uncommon for XP Burning to become disabled during the install or removal of burning software.

In spite of all the beating around the bush and trips off on unrelated tangents, the simple answer is, use Explorer to examine the drives Properties.

Select the Recording tab and put a checkmark by [b]Enable CD recording on this drive[\b].

Now you can have Classic, D2D and XP Burning to choose from.

[lrcite]

ausguy, on Feb 11 2006, 03:53 PM, said:

Perhaps you have drag to disc enabled I would unistall this feature as
it causes more problems than it is worth or while in widows explorer
right click on your burner and see if cd recording is enabled

Thank you.

Yes, Drag to Disk is enabled.

I will check to see if CD recording is enabled through Properties in my CD/DVD burner.

Leigh

[lrcite]

cdanteek, on Feb 11 2006, 04:49 PM, said:

"imapi.exe is a part of the Microsoft Windows operating system, more specifically the Image Mastering Applications Programming Interface, which is used for CD recording. This program is important for the stable and secure running of your computer and should not be terminated"

On my systems with any burning software installed I set IMAPI to manual. Against all the advice I read! My systems run better in xpsp2 in manual and have no burning problems in any software I use. But don't use IMAPI buggy. You can find it here, right click my computer, manage, expand services and look for IMAPI.
cdanteek

cdanteek,

Thank you.

I am not sure what IMAPI is so will have to do some reading to become familiar with what you are telling me.

grandpabruce, on Feb 11 2006, 04:54 PM, said:

If you use Creator Classic to burn the documents to a CD, others do not need to have Roxio installed to retrieve them.  They simply put the CD in their drive, and copy the documents to their hard drive.

Thanks.

I was not clear in my post. Now I understand the difference between using Creator Classic and Packet Writing.

Leigh

lynn98109, on Feb 11 2006, 05:19 PM, said:

Agreed.

If the OP wants to KEEP the data, NEVER format the disc.

Once the disc is formatted for Packet-Writing, it will call up the Packet-Writing program that created it any time it is inserted in the computer.  A formatted disc can ONLY be read by the program that created it - Packet-Writing programs are proprietary, so cannot read each other's Packet-Writing.

Further, Packet-Written discs have a tendancy to fail (usually at the worst possible time).

If RW media is used for Packet-Writing, the fading to blank (which happens with RW media, as the re-crystalized alloy de-crystalizes) is usually speeded up.

If the formatted disc is RW media, it can be erased, and reused for testing purposes.  If it is R media, the best thing to do is to save any data you want to keep back to the Hard Drive, and carefully put the disc itself somewhere else, such as the trash can.

To KEEP the data, use a Sessions-based program, such as Classic Creator, or the built-in WinXP burning program.  To LOSE the data permantly - ah, that is what Packet-Writing does so well!!

Lynn

Lynn,

Thanks so much.

This was what I was confused about and trying to explain. Now I understand the difference between using Classic Creator and the process of Packet-Writing. My co-workers who received my disks that were created when Packet-Writting was used and they did not have a program installed on their computer that could read Packet-Writen CDs could not utilize the CDs I gave them.

Also, I can now use Windows CD writer function and Roxio will not step in to do the task.

Leigh

james_hardin, on Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM, said:

It is not uncommon for XP Burning to become disabled during the install or removal of burning software.

In spite of all the beating around the bush and trips off on unrelated tangents, the simple answer is, use Explorer to examine the drives Properties.

Select the Recording tab and put a checkmark by [b]Enable CD recording on this drive[\b].

Now you can have Classic, D2D and XP Burning to choose from.

Thanks, that is exactly what happened. Now I have made all the proper settings and I should be able to use Classic, D2D and XP Burning.

Thanks.

[lynn98109]

lrcite, on Feb 11 2006, 07:13 PM, said:

Lynn,

Thanks so much.

This was what I was confused about and trying to explain. Now I understand the difference between using Classic Creator and the process of Packet-Writing. My co-workers who received my disks that were created when Packet-Writting was used and they did not have a program installed on their computer that could read Packet-Writen CDs could not utilize the CDs I gave them.

Also, I can now use Windows CD writer function and Roxio will not step in to do the task.

Leigh

I call it Basic False Anology.

I lost the 80% of what was on the Packet-Written CD-RW that wasn't also on the Hard Drive.

My software guru was correct.

Lynn

[poutine]

lynn98109, on Feb 12 2006, 03:23 AM, said:

I call it Basic False Anology.

I lost the 80% of what was on the Packet-Written CD-RW that wasn't also on the Hard Drive.

My software guru was correct.

Lynn

Packet Writing a CD-RW is a pointless task. Packet Writing is meant for CD-R's . After all, you can add individual tracks/files to a RW anyway. And basically thats what status a Packet written CD-R is trying to achieve.  (Apart from the fact, once its full its full)   

Edited by colbaby, 12 February 2006 - 08:39 AM.

[lynn98109]

colbaby, on Feb 12 2006, 06:07 AM, said:

Packet Writing a CD-RW is a pointless task. Packet Writing is meant for CD-R's . After all, you can add individual tracks/files to a RW anyway. And basically thats what status a Packet written CD-R is trying to achieve.  (Apart from the fact, once its full its full)   

That is incorrect.  Writing to either a CD-R or a CD-RW is pretty similar.

The difference is that a CD-R is burned by the laser "cooking" a dye to create the pits and the lands, whereas a CD-RW has the laser melt (at a lower temperature) an alluminum alloy and recrystalize it to create the pits and the lands.

Whether or not it can be added to depends on the program used to write to the disc, and whether the disc was closed.  You don't selectively add or subtrackt from a CD-RW any more than you do from a CD-R.

The difference is that you can erase the ENTIRE CD-RW, and start over.

Lynn

[poutine]

lynn98109, on Feb 12 2006, 10:05 AM, said:

That is incorrect.  Writing to either a CD-R or a CD-RW is pretty similar.

The difference is that a CD-R is burned by the laser "cooking" a dye to create the pits and the lands, whereas a CD-RW has the laser melt (at a lower temperature) an alluminum alloy and recrystalize it to create the pits and the lands.

Whether or not it can be added to depends on the program used to write to the disc, and whether the disc was closed.  You don't selectively add or subtrackt from a CD-RW any more than you do from a CD-R.

The difference is that you can erase the ENTIRE CD-RW, and start over.

Lynn

Sorry !!I think we got our wires crossed Lyne, My point is that theres no need at all to packet write with a CD-RW. Its completely unnecessary.You can selectively add tracks etc to a RW.Drag or Right click and send to disk . Thats how i and most users at our studios do it time and time over, and we have for 5 years plus now.Cheers

Edited by colbaby, 12 February 2006 - 11:27 AM.

[james_hardin]

colbaby, on Feb 12 2006, 01:57 PM, said:

Sorry !!I think we got our wires crossed Lyne, My point is that theres no need at all to packet write with a CD-RW. Its completely unnecessary.You can selectively add tracks etc to a RW.Drag or Right click and send to disk . Thats how i and most users at our studios do it time and time over, and we have for 5 years plus now.Cheers

Nonsense! You are implying that a CD-R is reusable and it is most assuredly not.

A CD-R can be written to once. If you delete or ‘overwrite’ the original file continues to take up the same space. Eventually you run out of space and that is the end of that!

Lynn correctly described the physical process taking place and that cannot be changed.

An RW does recover or reuse space when files are deleted or overwritten. Unfortunately the nature of the dyes to allow that also results in unreliability…

[poutine]

james_hardin, on Feb 12 2006, 11:36 AM, said:

Nonsense! You are implying that a CD-R is reusable and it is most assuredly not.

A CD-R can be written to once. If you delete or ‘overwrite’ the original file continues to take up the same space. Eventually you run out of space and that is the end of that!

Lynn correctly described the physical process taking place and that cannot be changed.

An RW does recover or reuse space when files are deleted or overwritten. Unfortunately the nature of the dyes to allow that also results in unreliability…

I wasnt implying anything of the sort. I was talking CD-RW   not CD-R's  .I suggest you re-read my last post again James.
At no point did i say a CD-R was reusable. In fact i said "when its full its full" Meaning, thats it for that one.
Only point i was making and will again is......... there is no need whatsoever to packet write with a CD-RW Disk.  

Edited by colbaby, 12 February 2006 - 01:13 PM.

[grandpabruce]

colbaby, on Feb 12 2006, 02:09 PM, said:

I wasnt implying anything of the sort. I was talking CD-RW   not CD-R's  .I suggest you re-read my last post again James.
At no point did i say a CD-R was reusable. In fact i said "when its full its full" Meaning, thats it for that one.
Only point i was making and will again is......... there is no need whatsoever to packet write with a CD-RW Disk.  

Actually, I think he read your last post.  I believe you said that there is absolutely no reason to write to a CD-RW, when Lynn was basically saying that there is,  if you want to re-use the disk.  I believe that James was reinforcing that statement.

[lynn98109]

grandpabruce, on Feb 12 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

Actually, I think he read your last post.  I believe you said that there is absolutely no reason to write to a CD-RW, when Lynn was basically saying that there is,  if you want to re-use the disk.  I believe that James was reinforcing that statement.

I think colbaby has decided what he thinks RW media is.  That doesn't mean what he has decided is what it acually is, but the information is available for those with an open mind.

Lynn

[poutine]

lynn98109, on Feb 12 2006, 03:35 PM, said:

I think colbaby has decided what he thinks RW media is.  That doesn't mean what he has decided is what it acually is, but the information is available for those with an open mind.

Lynn

LOL Myself and all my staff know all about media types, thank you very much.
But Lyne did state back a few posts this:  "I lost the 80% of what was on the Packet-Written CD-RW"   What i was questioning was why would anyone want to packet write to CD-RW ???
Thats all.   

Edited by colbaby, 12 February 2006 - 03:47 PM.

[grandpabruce]

colbaby, on Feb 12 2006, 05:46 PM, said:

LOL Myself amd all my staff know all about all sorts of media types. thank you very much.
But Lyne did state back a few posts this:  "I lost the 80% of what was on the Packet-Written CD-RW"   What i was questioning was why would anyone want to packet write to CD-RW ???

I can't understand why any intelligent person would ever use packet writing software for anything other than immediate transfer of data from one computer to another.