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DVDit Pro HD & HDV Video Transcoding HDV 1440 x 1080 25 fps Video

#1 User is offline   dhnj 

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 12:18 AM

As Canon HV20 PAL HDV Video is 1440 x 1080 25 fps (not Blu-ray-compliant video)
will DVDit Pro HD transcode the material. If so the transcoding time will be a great drawback
with this product.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 03:50 AM

No HDV is compliant. DVDitPRO HD can transcode it for you if you dont do it in another encoder.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 04:11 AM

QUOTE (shueardm @ May 20 2007, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No HDV is compliant. DVDitPRO HD can transcode it for you if you dont do it in another encoder.


Thanks for the reply.

I do not want to software transcode with any application at all, as the HDV mpeg2 video is already
compressed via hardware before writing to the DV tape.

I have read at the www.avsforum.com that with Ulead DVD Movie Factory version 5.0.0000
(which is not available any more) you could create BMMV without any recompression.
See comment below:
"After the new PS3, 1.6 update, I just made a BDMV on a BD-RE using Movie Factory 5,
and it plays back perfectly with menu's and 5.1 audio!!!! This rocks!!!"
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 05:05 PM

QUOTE (dhnj @ May 20 2007, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the reply.

I do not want to software transcode with any application at all, as the HDV mpeg2 video is already
compressed via hardware before writing to the DV tape.

I have read at the www.avsforum.com that with Ulead DVD Movie Factory version 5.0.0000
(which is not available any more) you could create BMMV without any recompression.
See comment below:
"After the new PS3, 1.6 update, I just made a BDMV on a BD-RE using Movie Factory 5,
and it plays back perfectly with menu's and 5.1 audio!!!! This rocks!!!"


You can simply burn the m2t file to a data blu ray disc and it will play in Playstation 3.
I do not beleive that the Ulead product makes BDMV at all, it's BDAV which does not support menus.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (shueardm @ May 20 2007, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can simply burn the m2t file to a data blu ray disc and it will play in Playstation 3.
I do not beleive that the Ulead product makes BDMV at all, it's BDAV which does not support menus.


Ulead DVD Movie Factory version 5.0.0000 which did make BDMV is not available anymore. All
Ulead products now only make BDAV that is why I was interested in DVDIT PRO HD if only
no transcoding was done. Right now I am using Ulead Video Studio to edit HDV footage without
any transcoding and burning all the *.mpg to a Video directory on normal DVD which plays back
very well on a PS3. When I capture HDV footage the file extension is *.mpg and when I edit and save
without any transcoding (stream copy) the resulting file extension is still *.mpg. Can you please
explain how you end with a file extension *.mt2
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:28 AM

QUOTE (dhnj @ May 20 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ulead DVD Movie Factory version 5.0.0000 which did make BDMV is not available anymore. All
Ulead products now only make BDAV that is why I was interested in DVDIT PRO HD if only
no transcoding was done. Right now I am using Ulead Video Studio to edit HDV footage without
any transcoding and burning all the *.mpg to a Video directory on normal DVD which plays back
very well on a PS3. When I capture HDV footage the file extension is *.mpg and when I edit and save
without any transcoding (stream copy) the resulting file extension is still *.mpg. Can you please
explain how you end with a file extension *.mt2


Can I be blunt?

I personally wont touch a program like that, or Pinnacle Studio. Cheap is cheap and you can't buy a cheap saloon. I probably sound like a pig but that's just my opinion.

If your Ulead program is capturing HDV and it is stored as an .mpg file then it is converting it on the fly to another specification. IE. It is not HDV anymore!!

How do you get .m2t files?

By capturing HDV in it's native form without any recompression or conversion. All decent editors allow you to do this.

Hope that helps.

This post has been edited by shueardm: 21 May 2007 - 03:29 AM

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:50 AM

Some transcoding must have been done in ULead as HDV doesn't support 5.1 audio, HDV camera's capture stereo, it's part of the HDV spec

The ULead software the OP speaks of does exist and does create legal BDMV discs, I have tired it myself, it was released for around a week until they removed that function from it.

As for the capturing to m2t or mpg, I use Premiere to capture HDV from my Sony HC5 and for some reason that names my files with .mpg at the end (it never used to, I must have messed with a setting at some point!), I usually just rename to m2t though.

To the OP, you may not want to convert your videos because they've already been "hardware encoded", but if you are going to be stubborn about it then you should've bought a camera that records Blu-ray legal 1280x720 or 1920x1080 video.
The ULead software may create something that works on a PS3 (which is basically a computer) but the chances of that disc working in another BD player with 1440x1080 video is slim, unless the BD specs are changed in the future
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 06:40 PM

Where are you peopole getting your information? Wikipedia:
Blue Ray --
" For video, all players are required to support ISO MPEG-2, H.264/AVC, and SMPTE VC-1. MPEG-2 video allows decoder backward compatibility for DVDs. "

"For audio, BD-ROM players are required to support Dolby Digital AC-3, DTS, and linear PCM (up to 7.1 channels). Dolby Digital Plus, and lossless formats Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD are player optional."

I read that as MPEG 2 with 5.1 AC3 audio being a legal format for Blue Ray. MPG and m2t are both MPEG encoding. 1440X1080 is non-square pixels EXACTLY like 16:9 on regular DVD so I see no reason why that shouldn't be Blue Ray 'legal' or at least, transcoded to 'square' pixels with no quality loss.

Personally, I don't think the industry has worked out all the kinks in HD recording. Give them another year or two.
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 06:48 PM

Mpeg 2 is supported (in specific variants)

m2t HDV is transport stream which is not supported.

I dont make the specs laugh.gif mellow.gif
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:24 AM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ May 21 2007, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where are you peopole getting your information? Wikipedia:
Blue Ray --
" For video, all players are required to support ISO MPEG-2, H.264/AVC, and SMPTE VC-1. MPEG-2 video allows decoder backward compatibility for DVDs. "

"For audio, BD-ROM players are required to support Dolby Digital AC-3, DTS, and linear PCM (up to 7.1 channels). Dolby Digital Plus, and lossless formats Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD are player optional."

I read that as MPEG 2 with 5.1 AC3 audio being a legal format for Blue Ray. MPG and m2t are both MPEG encoding. 1440X1080 is non-square pixels EXACTLY like 16:9 on regular DVD so I see no reason why that shouldn't be Blue Ray 'legal' or at least, transcoded to 'square' pixels with no quality loss.

Personally, I don't think the industry has worked out all the kinks in HD recording. Give them another year or two.
if you get your infor from wikipedia then there's something wrong, that's written by the public who by the looks of your post can't even spell Blu-ray. In fact Wikipedia is so reliable, I'm going to add about HDV right now since you're saying it's right
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