[racso]

Hi All,

I am currently using EMC9 to make my movie and dont know how to video clone myself, its quite easy using Windows movie maker, but have no clue using EMC. i have two clips of myself (on right and left) and want merge them and clone.....can someone please help me

Thanks

[malatekid]

Provide details of what you are trying to accomplish. It might help too to describe the steps you are doing in WMM to accomplish your goal.

[TOTG]

If they are two separate video files, you can add the two files as overlays. Otherwise, do as malatekid suggested and give us some more information on your project please.

[racso]

If they are two separate video files, you can add the two files as overlays. Otherwise, do as malatekid suggested and give us some more information on your project please.

Sorry Guys; the following link is what im looking to do

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/446893/clone...ws_movie_maker/

[racso]

Sorry Guys; the following link is what im looking to do

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/446893/clone...ws_movie_maker/

Hi All,

Has anyone got any idea how to clone mentioned above?

[sknis]

Hi All,
Has anyone got any idea how to clone mentioned above?

Your are in a bit of a rush but you got your answer above. Use VideoWave. Add the video to the main track and the other one to one of the overlay tracks. You can adjust the overlay to fit and match up with the one on the main track.You can move the overlay along the time line to match up if your timing is good.

I'm not sure but I do believe that you will have to extract the audio from the one that you put on the overlay track and put that one one of the other tracks.

Other; more sophisticated options: You could do a green screen (Chroma key) on the videos so that when you place the video on the overlay, you can get that green screen background to be transparent. No it doesn't have to be green, just a color that is not in the background of the video on the main track. See image. The Roxio box on the right is the same as the one on the left except the orange was removed. These are images but the same thing can be done with videos.

For the audio, you might want to consider just recording a narration to match the "action". live so that you don't have to do such a precise timing of the dialog. This may be more difficult if you are close up on the lips. The first one would probably be better.

If that's too complex, stick with WMM and use the output from that in VideoWave to do the final touches.

[racso]

Your are in a bit of a rush but you got your answer above. Use VideoWave. Add the video to the main track and the other one to one of the overlay tracks. You can adjust the overlay to fit and match up with the one on the main track.You can move the overlay along the time line to match up if your timing is good.

I'm not sure but I do believe that you will have to extract the audio from the one that you put on the overlay track and put that one one of the other tracks.

Other; more sophisticated options: You could do a green screen (Chroma key) on the videos so that when you place the video on the overlay, you can get that green screen background to be transparent. No it doesn't have to be green, just a color that is not in the background of the video on the main track. See image. The Roxio box on the right is the same as the one on the left except the orange was removed. These are images but the same thing can be done with videos.

For the audio, you might want to consider just recording a narration to match the "action". live so that you don't have to do such a precise timing of the dialog. This may be more difficult if you are close up on the lips. The first one would probably be better.

If that's too complex, stick with WMM and use the output from that in VideoWave to do the final touches.

Thanks for the quick reply, this is helpfull

I will try this

[racso]

I have used the second video as an overlay but can only hear the sound and can only see one video at a time, I added second video in timeline after first video (no overlay) and added a split transition and I think im on the right track as I dragged the transition to the video but still I cant get what im after, im certain there is a way I can do this.
Isn’t there any video tutorials from Roxio that anyone knows about, other companys have plenty. Can anyone please help me, as its quite urgent…

Thanks

[sknis]

I have used the second video as an overlay but can only hear the sound and can only see one video at a time, I added second video in timeline after first video (no overlay) and added a split transition and I think im on the right track as I dragged the transition to the video but still I cant get what im after, im certain there is a way I can do this.
Isn't there any video tutorials from Roxio that anyone knows about, other companys have plenty. Can anyone please help me, as its quite urgent…

Thanks

Did you try the chroma key method?

OK try this. Put a long color panel on the main track and each of the videos on separate overlay tracks (like the image above). You should be able to line up the two overlays (see the red outlined box). You didn't move the camera; right?

I told you you would have to play around with the audio. With two videos on the overlay track, the only option is to extract the audios using Media Manager and then put each on a separate audio track. That way you can move them around to line up.

You are using VideoWave? Go to the tips and trick area of V9 and watch the applicable demo videos. BTW, there are a lot of good how to posts in that area of the forum. Just read and try. The above process will work if you have captured the videos correctly.

[racso]

First of all thanks you so much Sknis for your help.

I am not very familiar with EMC9, but trying to learn, so i tried what you mentioned and still no luck I input a long blank colour panel and put both video as two different overlays. The camera was not moved at all. One clip is me on right of room and second on left. I think i understand what you mean about the red outline on the picture above, which i noticed with one of the clips overlaid on the other, but this just reduces size or increases and moves clip around. I understand what you mentioned about timing on audio, but even without extracting audio i still cant workout how to combine both clips into one and view this.
I also dont understand what you meant with chroma key method.
Im sure i can combine clips togther so i see two people in the same clip without playing around with any audio, right?
I did check in tips and tricks in forum, but theres nothing regarding this matter, would it take long for someone to show how to, regarding cloning by video clip or even easier step by step ways. Theres plenty on youtube but all different programs, none from Roxio.

Im sorry for the hassle

:)Thanks:)

[sknis]

First of all thanks you so much Sknis for your help.

I am not very familiar with EMC9, but trying to learn, so i tried what you mentioned and still no luck I input a long blank colour panel and put both video as two different overlays. The camera was not moved at all. One clip is me on right of room and second on left. I think i understand what you mean about the red outline on the picture above, which i noticed with one of the clips overlaid on the other, but this just reduces size or increases and moves clip around. I understand what you mentioned about timing on audio, but even without extracting audio i still cant workout how to combine both clips into one and view this.
I also dont understand what you meant with chroma key method.
Im sure i can combine clips togther so i see two people in the same clip without playing around with any audio, right?
I did check in tips and tricks in forum, but theres nothing regarding this matter, would it take long for someone to show how to, regarding cloning by video clip or even easier step by step ways. Theres plenty on youtube but all different programs, none from Roxio.

Im sorry for the hassle

:)Thanks:)

Add the first overlay, enlarge the red box to the max inside the TV safe zone. and then using only the vertical side, move that to the right or left as appropriate. Now add the second overlay and repeat.



Here is a view of what your screen should look like.

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Chromakey is what the weather persons use during a TV broadcast where they are superimposed on a weather map. The map is not really there. In your case, you would create and image of the background. Then you would film yourself in front of a colored screen in two different files (twice). You would use the background instead of the colored panel, you would use the overlays just like the above but you would take out the color of the screen you used. You would see you in front of the background. Repeat as necessary.

A little time with the manual would help. The posts in the Tips and Tricks area have some videos; one about how to handle audio. There is no one post about doing two overlays but I'm sure that you can figure out how to do that from the other posts.

I'll do videos if there is a large demand; they are not easy and take up band width. At this point, if you don't understand how to do this in VideoWave, why don't you do it in WMM and then do the burning to disc in MyDVD?

[NrjChnd]

I have also tried to use your method, and still cant get both images in the same picture. It'd be great if we can get a detailed tutorial video using a screencapture solution...

[King Fudge]

I've been looking around for a solution to cloning, I bought Movie Shaker online, but it didn't have what I was looking for. So now I'm stuck with Roxio (came with my XPS) and I can't figure it out. Tried what was mentioned above but it doesn't work.

If anyone here is also in the Adobe forum please reply to that one (over this one). Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial (that works)?

[sknis]

Doesn't work doesn't tell me anything.

I just put two different videos on the two overlay tracks and they play side by side so I know that the overlays work. I'm not about to drag out my video camera and do a side by side video and do a demo for just a couple of people. The demo videos take time; they don't just get whipped out in an hour or so.

Tell me what your getting or not getting. Do a screen shot and post it somewhere that will host a free image. Post the link here. If you want to, you can pm me and let me know how you can supply me with two short video files to work with.

Remember that the two videos are playing side by side and without using chroma key, they cannot interact and cross over the center line. You must take a lot of care in creating your two original videos. You must not move the camera and you must be just to the right or left of the center line. If you are too far from the center, you must do too much of an overlap.

I want to make sure you are using VideoWave and not one of the assistants or functions from MyDVD. That you are using two different overlay tracks and you are not expecting both audios to play at the same time.

KF69. Don't you think you are asking a lot from me or anyone else who replies? Remember I am just a user of the program. I am not an employee of Roxio/Sonic Solutions. If you want help, you come here; don't ask for me to create an Adobe account and post there.

Perhaps someone else will post here to offer other suggestions.

PS. This must be something big "Dow Nunder". Two (?) of you use the same Internet supplier and the third (?) is pretty close. Makes me wonder.

This post has been edited by sknis: 18 June 2007 - 04:24 AM

[racso]

First of all i want to thank you for your help!

Im surprised two newbies also joined and also interested and NO i dont have any realation to them

Below i have included two screenshots that hopefully will make my explanation easier. The picture named 1, is lounge room with two red dots which is the position i will be sitting. Both left and right scenes are two seperate file clips.
Are the positions to far apart from centre line? even if there not then i cant see what i must do, as you can see in the next pic (2) i have reduced both scenes vertically but both full scenes of lounge room still there , does it mean i need to crop or?

Im sure im on the right track but once i click play only one overlay plays. I dont think its the scene im using as ive tried a different scene also.
First of all i want to thank you for your help!

Im surprised two newbies also joined and also interested and NO i dont have any realation to them

Below i have included two screenshots that hopefully will make my explanation easier. The picture named 1, is lounge room with two red dots which is the position i will be sitting. Both left and right scenes are two seperate file clips.
Are the positions to far apart from centre line? even if there not then i cant see what i must do, as you can see in the next pic (2) i have reduced both scenes vertically but both full scenes of lounge room still there , does it mean i need to crop or?

Im sure im on the right track but once i click play only one overlay plays. I dont think its the scene im using as ive tried a different scene also.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/racso_photos/2.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/racso_photos/1.jpg

Thanks

[sknis]

OK I see your issue and I was way off base. Forget about what I have been telling you and try this.

Add video one to the main track; add video 2 as an overlay. Double click on the overlay and select position (second tab). Set the transparency to 50 %.

The image shows your original home setting with an image with the number "1" on the main track and and image with the number "2" on the overlay. You may have to play around with the transparency.

I apologize for wasting your time with my original misdirection.

Here is the left side:

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Here is the right side:

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Here are the two images one on the main track and one overlay with the transparency set to 50%

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This post has been edited by sknis: 18 June 2007 - 08:53 AM

[racso]

WhoooHooooo!!!

Yes Sknis we have done it This is what i was after, and it was done so easily, thank you so much!

I can arrange the timing which will take some time.

Do you know how i can fix the ghost look when both images are togther, i mean once transparency is set to 50% or even adjusted to a different percentage its not clear at all. Looks like both people are ghosts. There must be a way, right?

Thanks

[sknis]

WhoooHooooo!!!

Yes Sknis we have done it This is what i was after, and it was done so easily, thank you so much!

I can arrange the timing which will take some time.

Do you know how i can fix the ghost look when both images are togther, i mean once transparency is set to 50% or even adjusted to a different percentage its not clear at all. Looks like both people are ghosts. There must be a way, right?

Thanks

Must be but I don't know. Maek sure that you are inside the TV safe zone; that smaller size may get it clearer.

Still not sure about why you don't use WMM like the link you posted.

Also, when you have time, play around with the chroma key. I don't know if that will give you what you want.

[racso]

I need to find a transition called 'vertical split soft' to use in WMM, i only have the 'vertical split' transition.

I will try and play around with the trans to se the best looking video i can get. Otherwise i think i need to change the program im using

Thanks