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#1 d rick

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 04:11 PM

hi,

i'm trying to get a feel for what other folks are using for video settings when capturing, editing, and publishing video using EMC9.

My 20/20 helmet cam captures video at 656x492, 480 Scan Lines, and 30 FPS. The MPVR records video at 640 x 480 and "up to 30 FPS". The Arcsoft encoder i'm using is encoding from mpeg4-asf to mpeg4-avi with these settings:

file format - mpeg4 avi
video encoding - arcsoft mpeg4 codec
video bitrate - 3 mbps*
fps - 29.97*
resolution - 640x480
audio encoding - arcsoft mpeg1 / layer2
audio bitrate - 192kbps*
audio sample rate - 48 khz*

*maximum setting allowed

How does this compare to what other folks are using?

Edited by d rick, 09 July 2007 - 06:04 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:05 PM

Depends on what the FINAL output will be viewed / purpose, ie video DVD, web content, etc.   Off the wall video formats will be nothing but headaches when you start editing and trying to burn to video disc.  Try to capture in a format closer to the standard in your country.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ Jul 9 2007, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Depends on what the FINAL output will be viewed / purpose, ie video DVD, web content, etc.   Off the wall video formats will be nothing but headaches when you start editing and trying to burn to video disc.  Try to capture in a format closer to the standard in your country.


the final output will be viewed on a DVD to document and enjoy good rides we go on. The reason i picked this camcorder is because it's cheap and disposable, both of which are important when it's going to get dirty, dusty, and (or) muddy/wet every time i use it. Is ASF not standard in the US?

Edited by d rick, 09 July 2007 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:16 PM

I wouldn't call anything that Microsoft produces a 'standard'. LOL  Personally, I've never seen or used an ASF file. I thought it was more of an internet format for streaming video. Not what I would consider 'quality' video.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ Jul 9 2007, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't call anything that Microsoft produces a 'standard'. LOL  Personally, I've never seen or used an ASF file. I thought it was more of an internet format for streaming video. Not what I would consider 'quality' video.


agreed.. well, i'm open to suggestions for alternatives both on a recorder as well as formats? the emphasis is on either cheap or really rugged.

here are my options

http://www.twenty20camera.com/twenty20_recorder.php#

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 07:03 PM

Well let's back up and ask what do you have the 20-20 connected to record?  There's a good chance that Videowave can use those files natively instead of running them through Arcsoft encoder.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ Jul 9 2007, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well let's back up and ask what do you have the 20-20 connected to record?  There's a good chance that Videowave can use those files natively instead of running them through Arcsoft encoder.


check this out:

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=24381

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:33 PM

I agree with larry's last post. Check Aiptek's website to see what codec they are using.   There are several Microsoft MPEG 4 codecs free on the MS website.   Could start with that.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:49 AM

QUOTE (ggrussell @ Jul 9 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with larry's last post. Check Aiptek's website to see what codec they are using.   There are several Microsoft MPEG 4 codecs free on the MS website.   Could start with that.


i've looked on the website, checked their docs, called and email support and all they can give me is mpeg4 asf. there is also no way to change what codec they use to record, so i'm stuck with that format i think?

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:21 AM

Sounds like you're stuck.  I would download the Microsoft MPEG 4 codecs since ASF is a Microsoft file format.  Those might work.  I think this file is what you need.

Edited by ggrussell, 10 July 2007 - 09:37 AM.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE (d rick @ Jul 9 2007, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi,

i'm trying to get a feel for what other folks are using for video settings when capturing, editing, and publishing video using EMC9.

My 20/20 helmet cam captures video at 656x492, 480 Scan Lines, and 30 FPS. The MPVR records video at 640 x 480 and "up to 30 FPS". The Arcsoft encoder i'm using is encoding from mpeg4-asf to mpeg4-avi with these settings:

file format - mpeg4 avi
video encoding - arcsoft mpeg4 codec
video bitrate - 3 mbps*
fps - 29.97*
resolution - 640x480
audio encoding - arcsoft mpeg1 / layer2
audio bitrate - 192kbps*
audio sample rate - 48 khz*

*maximum setting allowed

How does this compare to what other folks are using?


ok, after much ado i found a incrementally better conversion method talking to arcsoft. without changing the resolution from 640 x 480, i can convert from mpeg4-asf to mpeg2 with these settings:

mpeg2
640x480
6mbps*
29.97fps*
audio bitrate 384 *

i assume that this will be better than the old method, and that i can edit (understanding that it's not optimal) this format?

*maximum setting allowed




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