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#1 Leona70

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:25 PM

I have vista and roxio creator DE version 9.0.116
I need help in burning a VOB file. I can watch this movie on windows media player, but can not burn it.  Why?

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 25 2007, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have vista and roxio creator DE version 9.0.116
I need help in burning a VOB file. I can watch this movie on windows media player, but can not burn it.  Why?

Try renaming .vob to .mpg.
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:42 PM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Jul 25 2007, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try renaming .vob to .mpg.

Hi Paul, I tried...didn't work or maybe I'm not doing it right sad.gif  This is exactly what the file is named: VTS_01.1

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 25 2007, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Paul, I tried...didn't work or maybe I'm not doing it right sad.gif  This is exactly what the file is named: VTS_01.1

You need to set Windows to allow you to see hidden files and extensions. This tutorial is very easy to follow.  Once this is done, you should be able to change from .vob to .mpg.
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 25 2007, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have vista and roxio creator DE version 9.0.116
I need help in burning a VOB file. I can watch this movie on windows media player, but can not burn it.  Why?

Hi Leona,
A VOB is a bit more complex than an MPEG stream.  A VOB contains all of the audio, video, and subpicture content for a VTS (Video Title Set).  There is one VOB per VTS, and a DVD-Video can have up to 99 VTS's.  Each VOB file entry has a name like VTS_01_1.VOB.  This would be the VOB for VTS 01.  While it may look like you have more than one file per VTS (VTS_01_2.VOB, VTS_01_3.VOB) these are just extra file entries called "extents"... a VOB can actually hold up to 9 Gigabytes.  So all of the "files" that start with VTS_01 and end in .VOB are part of a single VOB.  

An MPEG stream, on the other hand, has only one video and one audio stream.  A VOB can have multiple video angles, up to 8 audio streams, and up to 32 subpicture streams.    

The full version of Easy Media Creator 9 has an application that can do what you want (unfortunately, it's not in Creator DE).  It's an application labeled "Compile DVDs and Movies".   When you choose your VIDEO_TS folder (that contains the VOB), you will be able to copy any portion of your DVD to a new video compilation project.  This is a great tool that allows you to take an existing DVD and delete unwanted portions, or combine parts of multiple DVDs into one DVD.

Tom

Edited by Tom at Roxio, 25 July 2007 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Jul 25 2007, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You need to set Windows to allow you to see hidden files and extensions. This tutorial is very easy to follow.  Once this is done, you should be able to change from .vob to .mpg.

Hey thanks for that info, it worked, I changed the file.  But now another problem, In roxio...I can now find the file, but it keeps saying to put in a blank or rewrtieable cd-which I have. Why is this happening?  Do you know what can I do to fix this?

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 25 2007, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey thanks for that info, it worked, I changed the file.  But now another problem, In roxio...I can now find the file, but it keeps saying to put in a blank or rewrtieable cd-which I have. Why is this happening?  Do you know what can I do to fix this?

Can you please post the info about your computer and the cd/dvd drive(s) you have?  
Make sure you have the latest firmware for your burner also.
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (Tom at Roxio @ Jul 25 2007, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Leona,
A VOB is a bit more complex than an MPEG stream.  A VOB contains all of the audio, video, and subpicture content for a VTS (Video Title Set).  There is one VOB per VTS, and a DVD-Video can have up to 99 VTS's.  Each VOB file entry has a name like VTS_01_1.VOB.  This would be the VOB for VTS 01.  While it may look like you have more than one file per VTS (VTS_01_2.VOB, VTS_01_3.VOB) these are just extra file entries called "extents"... a VOB can actually hold up to 9 Gigabytes.  So all of the "files" that start with VTS_01 and end in .VOB are part of a single VOB.  

An MPEG stream, on the other hand, has only one video and one audio stream.  A VOB can have multiple video angles, up to 8 audio streams, and up to 32 subpicture streams.    

The full version of Easy Media Creator 9 has an application that can do what you want (unfortunately, it's not in Creator DE).  It's an application labeled "Compile DVDs and Movies".   When you choose your VIDEO_TS folder (that contains the VOB), you will be able to copy any portion of your DVD to a new video compilation project.  This is a great tool that allows you to take an existing DVD and delete unwanted portions, or combine parts of multiple DVDs into one DVD.

Tom

Thanks so much Tom, you are very helpful. So if I update my creator De to  EMC9, would that solve my problem?

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 25 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks so much Tom, you are very helpful. So if I update my creator De to  EMC9, would that solve my problem?
Not necessarily. It also depends on you providing the info beerman asked you regarding your drives, what kind of discs you are using, and which application in the suite you are trying to burn with currently.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 04:51 AM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 25 2007, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks so much Tom, you are very helpful. So if I update my creator De to  EMC9, would that solve my problem?

Hi Leona,
I would need to confirm what you are trying to accomplish by burning this VOB.  I am guessing that you want to create a DVD-Video disc that you can play in any DVD player.

Also - do you have the whole DVD image (the VIDEO_TS folder), or the original DVD?  You'll need this.  It is tough to decode the VOB properly without the information (IFO) file that is with it in the VIDEO_TS folder.

Lastly - is the VOB from a copy protected DVD?  You can't do anything with it if it is copy protected.

Tom

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:13 AM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Jul 25 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can you please post the info about your computer and the cd/dvd drive(s) you have?  
Make sure you have the latest firmware for your burner also.



Hi Beerman, I have windows vista, there is a cd drive and a dvd drive(what kind...Idon't know)  Latest firmware??? What is that? Sorry I'm new to this smile.gif

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE (Leona70 @ Jul 26 2007, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Beerman, I have windows vista, there is a cd drive and a dvd drive(what kind...Idon't know)  Latest firmware??? What is that? Sorry I'm new to this smile.gif

I'll go out on a limb and assume that since this is a Vista PC, that's it's most likely new and the firmware is pretty much up to date enough not to be a problem.
Perhaps you can download the free Belarc Advisor and get some info on your pc.  There's other ways but this will be very helpful info for you as you learn more about your system and what you want to do with it.
When you install this, it will take a few moments to run a check of your system and present you with a report.  Look for the 'Drives' section and post what it says.  I've not tried this in Vista but I'm pretty sure this program works just as well in Vista as XP.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 03:58 AM

Please, I have the same problem, BUT not the same solution...

I have VIDEO_TS folder on my disk with my own creation (already compiled movie) which I made in DVD Lab Pro. For the lack of time I could not burn it directly after compilation. And now I'm stuck with the fully playable compiled movie incl. menus etc... which I can't burn in Roxio 9 (came pre-installed on my brand new computer with Vista home premium).

On the old computer I used Nero and there was in Nero Express - burn DVD - where you had to have the movie compiled in VIDEO_TS folder.
Here in Roxio I haven't found such a application, only DVD creator which would re-compile and re-compress the files (whether I rename them into *.mpg or import them as *.vob) and I would have to re-make the menus as well as roxio did not want to import those.

Moreover it wouldn't work at all, because it is compiled into VOBs altogether about 3.7 GB (well below the volume of DVD disc) and when I import those two movies (cca 70 mins each) into roxio it won't even re-compile it in the same size, it tells me, that those movies altogether would be 5.3 GB - won't fit on disc no matter how I try to set the compression.

Now. I feel this as real drawback of roxio if it can't simply take VIDEO_TS folder and burn it on DVD disc to be recognized as DVD in stand alone player.

Is my only solution to get Nero (=spend money and thrash the pre-installed programs)?
Or is there a function in Roxio which I did not find?

I repeat - renaming the files and/or re-compiling the DVD in roxio is not the option. I want simply to burn them without changing them at all.

Thanks a lot for your help

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 04:09 AM

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which I can't burn in Roxio 9 (came pre-installed on my brand new computer with Vista home premium).


Do you have disc copier in your pre-installed version? If so and it's similar to retail V9, it will do the job.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 05:50 AM

Go to Start -> Programs -> Roxio 9 -> Copy -> Disc Copier

In Disc Copier make sure you ae in the CD & DVD Copy view, then under the Source, select DVD-Video Folder, browse to your Video_ts folder.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 05:57 AM

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which I can't burn in Roxio 9 (came pre-installed on my brand new computer with Vista home premium).


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Go to Start -> Programs -> Roxio 9 -> Copy -> Disc Copier


We have established his OEM version has Retail version of 'Disc Copier'?

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5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
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15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
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Posted 24 August 2007 - 02:04 PM

Sorry, my OEM version does not have Disc copier
I have only Roxio Creator Basic, My DVD basic and Express labeler

There is in menu in creator basic for "Copy" but that does NOT allow me to choose the source. It can "copy" ONLY from the disc, not from folder on HD :-(.

Well. Thanks for your answers anyway....

I hope I won't offend people here (and I really do not intend to), but I have to say, that in my personal experience, Nero is 100x better than roxio in even the very basic functions
(I've had OEM Roxio before with my old computer (still for Wind ME) as well and than I got OEM Nero with my old DVD burner and now I have Roxio again witn new comp with Vista.
And in the time I had Nero, I never run into task which I was unable to do or find EASY solution. With Roxio on the other hand, there is lots of things, I couldn't do the simple way.
I'm just hesitant to install the older OEM Nero I've got with the DVD burner 2 years ago, because that was BEFORE Vista and I'm not sure about the compatibility. And I have no money to buy new Nero Suite, otherwise I'd do that right away, so I'm kinda stuck with Roxio till I win a lottery smile.gif

Anyway, as to return to my problem - there is "burn image" command, so I think, I could convert the VIDEO_TS folder into DVD structered  "image" and than burn it.
Anyone has any idea, if there is freeware utility which would do that conversion?
I guess (never tried, but just guiess), that if I burn folder VIDEO_TS as Data folder on DVD disc, it will not play in player, or will it?

Thanks a lot.

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE (Johny @ Aug 24 2007, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, my OEM version does not have Disc copier
I have only Roxio Creator Basic, My DVD basic and Express labeler

There is in menu in creator basic for "Copy" but that does NOT allow me to choose the source. It can "copy" ONLY from the disc, not from folder on HD :-(.

Well. Thanks for your answers anyway....

I hope I won't offend people here (and I really do not intend to), but I have to say, that in my personal experience, Nero is 100x better than roxio in even the very basic functions
(I've had OEM Roxio before with my old computer (still for Wind ME) as well and than I got OEM Nero with my old DVD burner and now I have Roxio again witn new comp with Vista.
And in the time I had Nero, I never run into task which I was unable to do or find EASY solution. With Roxio on the other hand, there is lots of things, I couldn't do the simple way.
I'm just hesitant to install the older OEM Nero I've got with the DVD burner 2 years ago, because that was BEFORE Vista and I'm not sure about the compatibility. And I have no money to buy new Nero Suite, otherwise I'd do that right away, so I'm kinda stuck with Roxio till I win a lottery smile.gif

Anyway, as to return to my problem - there is "burn image" command, so I think, I could convert the VIDEO_TS folder into DVD structered  "image" and than burn it.
Anyone has any idea, if there is freeware utility which would do that conversion?
I guess (never tried, but just guiess), that if I burn folder VIDEO_TS as Data folder on DVD disc, it will not play in player, or will it?

Thanks a lot.

John


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Posted 25 August 2007 - 11:04 PM

Problem solved...

Little free utility "Folderburn" creates VideoDVD ISO file and then the OEM Roxio creator basic could copy that file onto DVD disc.

(for other souls with this problem - just google "Folderburn")

thanks for your time.... I'll come back with another questin in the future for sure smile.gif


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Posted 29 August 2007 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Larry @ Aug 23 2007, 06:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go to Start -> Programs -> Roxio 9 -> Copy -> Disc Copier

In Disc Copier make sure you ae in the CD & DVD Copy view, then under the Source, select DVD-Video Folder, browse to your Video_ts folder.


A am having similar problems... I can't burn the video_ts folders either.  I am running Roxio Creator Premier which has disc copier built into the suite.  I used to use ECM8 (downloadable) which I purchased from Sonic.  Disc copier appeared to be a seperate program from the main software suite.  I was able to select the video_ts folder and burn the DVD.  It would even compress the video as needed to fit a DVD-R.

I can't seem to be able to accomplish the same thing using Roxio 9.  I can find where to burn an image, not requiring a "disc" copy, but it will only copy disc images such as .iso, .gi, .c2d, etc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.





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