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#1 The Brakeman

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Posted 26 August 2007 - 04:00 PM

Audio source is a Torrent (shn).  Used dbPoweramp to convert to wav file. Use EMC 9 to burn to disc.  Disc plays on all CD players except my car.  Other car CD players, no problem.  Using Vista Home Premium. Windows Media Player = current version.  To burn used the Music Disc Creator in EMC 9.

Further information:  Other similarly sourced and converted audio using windows XP and EMC 7.5 play fine on my car CD player.  However, when I take those audio files (saved on my hard drive) and burn them again using EMC 9 and Vista = no luck.

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Posted 26 August 2007 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (The Brakeman @ Aug 26 2007, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Audio source is a Torrent (shn).  Used dbPoweramp to convert to wav file. Use EMC 9 to burn to disc.  Disc plays on all CD players except my car.  Other car CD players, no problem.  Using Vista Home Premium. Windows Media Player = current version.  To burn used the Music Disc Creator in EMC 9.

Further information:  Other similarly sourced and converted audio using windows XP and EMC 7.5 play fine on my car CD player.  However, when I take those audio files (saved on my hard drive) and burn them again using EMC 9 and Vista = no luck.

Seems to me that the cd was successfully made or it wouldn't play in the other cd players.  It's possible your card doesn't like homemade discs but I would first try a few different brands of disc and I would burn at a slower speed.
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Aug 26 2007, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems to me that the cd was successfully made or it wouldn't play in the other cd players.  It's possible your card doesn't like homemade discs but I would first try a few different brands of disc and I would burn at a slower speed.


The car CD player has played hundreds of homemade discs.  I have already tried different brand discs (I use high quality blanks) with no solution.  I just tried burning at the lowest spped EMC 9 would allow (16X) with no solution.

Any other ideas?

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Posted 26 August 2007 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (The Brakeman @ Aug 26 2007, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The car CD player has played hundreds of homemade discs.  I have already tried different brand discs (I use high quality blanks) with no solution.  I just tried burning at the lowest spped EMC 9 would allow (16X) with no solution.

Any other ideas?

And all these other successful burns were done the same way as this one? If that is the case, there could be a problem with the file itself.  I have no other suggestions as I have't worked wiht shn files.
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 08:03 AM

Follow up:

I took the disc that wouldn't play in car, ripped it to HD of laptop which is Windows XP and burned a new disc using Windows Media Player 10.  Voila! It plays on the car CD player.

I think that narrows it down to a Vista v. XP problem, or Media Player 10 v. EMC 9 problem?

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE (The Brakeman @ Aug 27 2007, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Follow up:

I took the disc that wouldn't play in car, ripped it to HD of laptop which is Windows XP and burned a new disc using Windows Media Player 10.  Voila! It plays on the car CD player.

I think that narrows it down to a Vista v. XP problem, or Media Player 10 v. EMC 9 problem?

Could it be a DRM problem?  Vista and WMP are involved!  sad.gif
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 10:47 AM

I don't think it's a DRM problem.  The audio files are non-copyrighted material.  Since the last post I tried to burn on the Vista computer using Media Player:  didn't work.

Next I think I'll try and burn the disc using the compatibility feature in Vista.  Also, could it be the CD/DVD drive itself?

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 12:46 PM

I'm having a similar problem with Vista playback: Nothing I've burned on Roxio of Win Media will play on any CD player, but plays on PC just fine. What am I doing wrong?

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE (Tatanka @ Nov 17 2007, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm having a similar problem with Vista playback: Nothing I've burned on Roxio of Win Media will play on any CD player, but plays on PC just fine. What am I doing wrong?

Exactly how are you burning the audio cd?  Sounds like you're either burning a data cd.
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Posted 20 January 2008 - 05:41 AM

I am having the same problem as brakeman except I am running Windows xp.  I have burned cd's that would play in my car but after a reinstall no luck.  I am burning in the create audio cd for car or home.  I am using a fuji blank with a liteon lh 20a1h dvd burner.  I have tried everything I know to do without success.  Do you have any suggestions?

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 06:15 AM

QUOTE (mrkay @ Jan 20 2008, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am having the same problem as brakeman except I am running Windows xp.  I have burned cd's that would play in my car but after a reinstall no luck.  I am burning in the create audio cd for car or home.  I am using a fuji blank with a liteon lh 20a1h dvd burner.  I have tried everything I know to do without success.  Do you have any suggestions?

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Try using Music Disc Creator instead.
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Posted 20 January 2008 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (mrkay @ Jan 20 2008, 05:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am having the same problem as brakeman except I am running Windows xp.  I have burned cd's that would play in my car but after a reinstall no luck.  I am burning in the create audio cd for car or home.  I am using a fuji blank with a liteon lh 20a1h dvd burner.  I have tried everything I know to do without success.  Do you have any suggestions?

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I tried the other function with the same results.  I thought maybe it was because the tracks are showing as a cda so I tried to burn as a wav file but that didn't make any difference either.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (mrkay @ Jan 20 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tried the other function with the same results.  I thought maybe it was because the tracks are showing as a cda so I tried to burn as a wav file but that didn't make any difference either.



Put a burned disc in the drive and under tools in EMC 9 open DVDInfo Pro. Click the info tab at the top left then right click the clipboard icon top right and click copy. Paste that info like below in a post reply.

                            Media Information                            
                                                                        
Format Capacity                                            0.59GB(0.63GB)
Media Type                                                           CD-R
ATIP Start Time of Lead In (Media Code)                         97m15s15f
ATIP Last Possible Start Time of Lead Out                       79m59s74f
Manufacturer Name                                               Ritek Co.
HD-BURN Certified                                                      NO
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 16.0x   2400KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 12.0x   1800KBps
                                                                        
                           Complete Media Code  

I like this free tool much better, same disc as above.

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type:    : CD-R
Manufacturer: : Ritek
MID           : 97m15s15f
Write speeds: : 12 X - 16 X
Capacity:     : 79:59.74
               : 703 MB
Extended Information
Usage         : General
Disc Status   : Closed
Raw Data
ATIP
0000 - C0 00 90 00 61 0F 0F 00 4F 3B 4A 00 00 00 00 00 - ....a...O;J.....
0010 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00                         - ........
                        
cd
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Posted 21 January 2008 - 06:43 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ Jan 20 2008, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Put a burned disc in the drive and under tools in EMC 9 open DVDInfo Pro. Click the info tab at the top left then right click the clipboard icon top right and click copy. Paste that info like below in a post reply.

                            Media Information                            
                                                                        
Format Capacity                                            0.59GB(0.63GB)
Media Type                                                           CD-R
ATIP Start Time of Lead In (Media Code)                         97m15s15f
ATIP Last Possible Start Time of Lead Out                       79m59s74f
Manufacturer Name                                               Ritek Co.
HD-BURN Certified                                                      NO
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 16.0x   2400KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 12.0x   1800KBps
                                                                        
                           Complete Media Code  

I like this free tool much better, same disc as above.

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type:    : CD-R
Manufacturer: : Ritek
MID           : 97m15s15f
Write speeds: : 12 X - 16 X
Capacity:     : 79:59.74
               : 703 MB
Extended Information
Usage         : General
Disc Status   : Closed
Raw Data
ATIP
0000 - C0 00 90 00 61 0F 0F 00 4F 3B 4A 00 00 00 00 00 - ....a...O;J.....
0010 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00                         - ........
                        
cd



Seems as though I may have been wasting your time.  I didn't realize that Roxio and Sonic were different.  I am using recordnow 9, not emc.  I tried to get the info lthat you asked for but the disc info won't let me copy it.  I tried with nero also but it wouldn't let me copy either.  I am still having the same problem but it is with recordnow not emc.  If you can still help me it would be greatly appreciated.

thanks again


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Posted 21 January 2008 - 08:06 AM

.cda files on a cd when looking at it with Windows Explorer is what you should see.All they are is pointer files to the actual PCM on the disc.All audio cd's whether made or store bought are going to look like this.That is the Audio Cd standard.
If you made a cd and it has these files on it then a CD player should play it unless it just doesn't like CD-r or CD-RW.There are really no options to set when making a cd.The disc is automatically closed and can only be made in a certain format that gives .cda files.If you use Music Disc Creator you will get the option to add CD-Text.
All I can think of is either the drive doesn't like burned media (which you say you've used) or it doesn't like the discs you're using.
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