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Post icon  Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:27 PM

I've been having trouble with some videos. I have Easy Media Creator 8 and I'm using MyDVD to burn
both an ISO image file and copy to the disk.

In some cases, it says it is created successfully, and the DVD has the correct title, says it is full to capacity,
but there is nothing inside. It won't play on the computer or DVD player, because there's nothing on it! :huh:

It filled up with emptiness.

If I burn another from the ISO image, the same thing happens.

If I open the ISO file and preview it, the preview plays fine. I just can't get it onto a DVD.

I thought that perhaps if the file was too big, it might not copy it to the ISO file (even though it claimed
it did), but I have two ISO files that are exactly the same size and one works and one doesn't.

It does happen when the ISO file is about at 4 GB though. I have burned other videos the same way
and some work fine (those that are ~3 GB).

What's going on? :)

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:48 PM

I'm not sure if I understand you 100%. After your ISO image is complete, are you using Disc Copier to copy to dvd? You don't mention Disc Copier if you tell MyDVD to save as an image file, you need to burn that image to disc with Disc Copier. I don't think it's the best idea to burn both the ISO and direct to disc. I think you're better to save the image file then burn that to disc. An extra step I think is worth it.
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:54 PM

I used MyDvD to create the ISO image and put it on the DVD and the resulting DVD had the correct
title, said it was full, but there was nothing inside.

Then I used Copy from the Roxio EMC8 Home with "burn image to disk" and it said it burned
successfully, but the DVD was the same as before.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:19 PM

View Postclvinores1, on Feb 26 2006, 04:54 PM, said:

I used MyDvD to create the ISO image and put it on the DVD and the resulting DVD had the correct
title, said it was full, but there was nothing inside.

Then I used Copy from the Roxio EMC8 Home with "burn image to disk" and it said it burned
successfully, but the DVD was the same as before.



What you need to do is find where the .iso is stored on your hard drive, double click on it which should open up disc copier, put in your blank DVD and then burn. Is that the step you used when using disc copier before. You don't copy the first disc you burned. You need to follow the above steps.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 05:21 PM

There is an old joke about the guy telling the doctor that it hurts when "I do this"; the doctor relpied "don't do that".

I've been having trouble with some videos. I have Easy Media Creator 8 and I'm using MyDVD to burn
both an ISO image file and copy to the disk.

Burn only the image file and then copy it. Unless you have a really fast computer, losts of disc space and other things just right, you are asking for trouble.
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Post icon  Posted 04 March 2006 - 06:22 PM

View Postsknis, on Feb 27 2006, 05:21 PM, said:

There is an old joke about the guy telling the doctor that it hurts when "I do this"; the doctor relpied "don't do that".

I've been having trouble with some videos. I have Easy Media Creator 8 and I'm using MyDVD to burn
both an ISO image file and copy to the disk.

Burn only the image file and then copy it. Unless you have a really fast computer, losts of disc space and other things just right, you are asking for trouble.


I tried it both ways. I double-clicked on the .iso file, which opened Disc Copier, but the DVD claimed
it was filled at the end, but there are no files in it.

Then I tried launching Disc copier first, and pointing it at the .iso file. Again, the DVD claimed
it was filled at the end, but there are no files in it.

I did notice that the .iso files size in "properties" says: 3.99 GB (4,294,934,528 bytes)

The used space on the DVD says 4,227,072 bytes with 0 free space.

So it seems like it doesn't quite fit, but I don't get any errors and there is nothing at all on
the disk. It's almost like if it's a few bytes too big, it doesn't put anything into the ISO file,
but doesn't tell you there will be any issue.
Could that be for real? :)
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Posted 04 March 2006 - 06:38 PM

View Postclvinores1, on Mar 4 2006, 08:22 PM, said:

I tried it both ways. I double-clicked on the .iso file, which opened Disc Copier, but the DVD claimed
it was filled at the end, but there are no files in it.

Then I tried launching Disc copier first, and pointing it at the .iso file. Again, the DVD claimed
it was filled at the end, but there are no files in it.

I did notice that the .iso files size in "properties" says: 3.99 GB (4,294,934,528 bytes)

The used space on the DVD says 4,227,072 bytes with 0 free space.

So it seems like it doesn't quite fit, but I don't get any errors and there is nothing at all on
the disk. It's almost like if it's a few bytes too big, it doesn't put anything into the ISO file,
but doesn't tell you there will be any issue.
Could that be for real? :)

If the disc shows 0 free space, you certainly can't copy to it! You say "there are no files in it" but if it has no space, something is on it!
I suggest you get a few RW discs to test with until you figure out what's going on. Or, you'll just be wasting your money on coasters. You seem to be doing things correctly.....double clicking the ISO image file and DC opens. But you either have a disc already burned or the wrong type disc. If the ISO is too big, Disc Copier will be able to shrink it to fit to disc with out any problem.
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Posted 07 March 2006 - 06:44 PM

View Postpcostanza, on Mar 4 2006, 06:38 PM, said:

If the disc shows 0 free space, you certainly can't copy to it! You say "there are no files in it" but if it has no space, something is on it!
I suggest you get a few RW discs to test with until you figure out what's going on. Or, you'll just be wasting your money on coasters. You seem to be doing things correctly.....double clicking the ISO image file and DC opens. But you either have a disc already burned or the wrong type disc. If the ISO is too big, Disc Copier will be able to shrink it to fit to disc with out any problem.


The DVD disk was initially empty, but after I burn the ISO image to it, then it says the DVD has 0 free space, but if you open the DVD with Windows explorer, there are no files inside and my system even displays hidden files! The DVD label was written and it "writes" the ISO file, but it's full of nothing!! :)

Since then, I've tried using the method of creating a folder set of my files instead of an ISO image. Then, I can at least see what is inside. Then I copy the folder set to the DVD.

Is there a way to play the movie in an ISO file on your PC, w/out burning it to a DVD and playing it from the DVD? It'd be nice to be able to figure out if the problem is in the creation of the ISO file or in burning the ISO file to the DVD.

Alternatively, is there a way to see what's inside an ISO file on your PC (kind of like Winzip will show you what's inside a zip file w/out having to unzip it first)? That also would allow me to see if the ISO file is good, but I just can't get it onto a DVD for whatever reason.

By the way, I had added my own audio to the intro movie when this "empty ISO file problem" occurred. Not that this should have anything to do with it, but maybe it does if you're close to maxing out DVD size. Maybe there's some weird bug that happens if the movie would fit, but if the intro audio makes it too big. ?? Just guessing, but this problem doesn't sound like it's happened to many others, so perhaps something I did that I thought would have no effect (and shouldn't), did.

Thanks for your assistance here.
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Posted 07 March 2006 - 07:02 PM

View Postclvinores1, on Mar 7 2006, 08:44 PM, said:

Is there a way to play the movie in an ISO file on your PC, w/out burning it to a DVD and playing it from the DVD? It'd be nice to be able to figure out if the problem is in the creation of the ISO file or in burning the ISO file to the DVD.

Yes, but the only way I know is to use Disc Copier and Video Compilation. After you add your ISO to the Video Compilation, you can click on the preview/trim button and you can see the file.
I think there might be an ISO file player out there somewhere and just recently read about this but I don't know for sure.
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Posted 07 March 2006 - 08:40 PM

View Postclvinores1, on Mar 7 2006, 08:44 PM, said:

Is there a way to play the movie in an ISO file on your PC, w/out burning it to a DVD and playing it from the DVD? It'd be nice to be able to figure out if the problem is in the creation of the ISO file or in burning the ISO file to the DVD.

View Postpcostanza, on Mar 7 2006, 09:02 PM, said:

Yes, but the only way I know is to use Disc Copier and Video Compilation. After you add your ISO to the Video Compilation, you can click on the preview/trim button and you can see the file.
I think there might be an ISO file player out there somewhere and just recently read about this but I don't know for sure.

If you installed the Disc Image Loader program when you installed EMC8, you can use that to create an emulated disc drive that you can load the .iso file on and it will act just like a physical disc in a physical drive.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 05:05 AM

View Postlbissonette, on Mar 7 2006, 10:40 PM, said:

If you installed the Disc Image Loader program when you installed EMC8, you can use that to create an emulated disc drive that you can load the .iso file on and it will act just like a physical disc in a physical drive.

I keep forgetting about that Larry. I'm not a user of DIL but that's a much better suggestion.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 06:25 AM

View Postpcostanza, on Mar 8 2006, 07:05 AM, said:

I keep forgetting about that Larry. I'm not a user of DIL but that's a much better suggestion.

Easy one to forget if you don't use it. I don't use it too often myself either. Usually only when I want to watch something I have the image file of. Quciker than digging out the disc that's 'somewhere' in the living room. :)
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:04 AM

View Postpcostanza, on Mar 8 2006, 05:05 AM, said:

I keep forgetting about that Larry. I'm not a user of DIL but that's a much better suggestion.


Thank you. I didn't even realize that EMC8 had a DIL component before. I found it under tools and I
tried it, and the ISO image doesn't have any files in it, either. So it is not a problem with copying the ISO
image to the DVD.

The problem is that the ISO file is not created correctly.

I have a hunch that things are going along, and then the program gets an error trying to save the files within the image because they are too big or something, ignores the error, and tells you it's done. I don't know if
that's really true or not. I'd be interested in other theories anyone else has, too.


The program is only 1 hour, but I added my own single song of audio as menu background. I don't know why this would be too big, but I did notice that when I didn't add my own music (for a different 1 hour video), the resulting ISO filesize was substantially smaller.

So I guess, after creating a video, I need to load it before burning it, to make sure that there are files inside of it. It's better than making coasters, but it is still annoying. :)
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:53 AM

View Postclvinores1, on Mar 10 2006, 02:04 AM, said:

Thank you. I didn't even realize that EMC8 had a DIL component before. I found it under tools and I
tried it, and the ISO image doesn't have any files in it, either. So it is not a problem with copying the ISO
image to the DVD.

The problem is that the ISO file is not created correctly.

I have a hunch that things are going along, and then the program gets an error trying to save the files within the image because they are too big or something, ignores the error, and tells you it's done. I don't know if
that's really true or not. I'd be interested in other theories anyone else has, too.
The program is only 1 hour, but I added my own single song of audio as menu background. I don't know why this would be too big, but I did notice that when I didn't add my own music (for a different 1 hour video), the resulting ISO filesize was substantially smaller.

So I guess, after creating a video, I need to load it before burning it, to make sure that there are files inside of it. It's better than making coasters, but it is still annoying. :)

I don't think it's a size problem and you're only talking about 4.3 gb. I've made ISO projects up to 7.6 gb and then let Disc Copier transcode it to disc at best possible quality and have had great results. I'm not sure at all what is causing this problem. A conflict with some other program, a bad install or what. Try a completely different, smaller project such as a slide show or small video file and see if the same thing happens. You might want to try these on RW discs to save you some bad burns if the problem continues.
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