No Permission Bad Installation Activation
#1
Posted 14 September 2007 - 06:08 PM
#2
Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:24 PM
This is incredibly frustrating.
Can anyone PLEASE help us?
Config details:
Brand new Dell XPS 410
Windows XP Home Edition SP2
Roxio Creator DE ver. 9.0.117
Build: 901B17R, DL2
All antivirus software and firewalls disabled
Exact procedure and error:
In Roxio Creator DE, click "Create DVD"
Popup warning:
"The following codec(s) must be activated before using the application: MPEG-2"
"Click OK to activate, or Cancel to abort"
(after clicking OK, I get)
"no permission - bad installation"
#3
Posted 05 October 2007 - 01:52 AM
You have an OEM version which has never required activation!
Uninstall the software as well as any trial version you might have loaded and strictly follow the clean install procedures, here.
XP Pro/SP2
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 w/AGP8X
#4
Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:47 AM
When I click the "Video" option on left, it now says:
"Upgrade your DVD and Video experience
Click here to learn about the exciting and entertaining world of DVD and Video"
But there's no option to actually do anything with a DVD.
#5
Posted 05 October 2007 - 09:29 AM
"Rincewind could scream for mercy in nineteen languages and just scream in another forty-four "
"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that will do them in."
“Computers have enabled people to make more mistakes faster than almost any invention in history, with the possible exception of tequila and hand guns.” — Mitch Ratcliffe
Daithi
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Intel I7 950 on Gigabyte X58A UD3R mobo
12 GB Three Channel DDRAM
Radeon HD4850 512 MB GDR3 graphics
Signalink USB Audio Codec for ham radio connection
1 x 160 GB, 1 x 330 GB, 1 x 400 GB IDE drives
4 x 250 GB SATA 2
LG HL-DT-ST GGW-H20L BD-RE drive
22" Acer P223W monitor
EMC 7.5 on Windows XP 32 SP3
EMC10 on Windows XP64 SP2
Creator 2011 on Windows 7 Ultimate
ECD6 on Gentoo Linux (running under VMWare)
#6
Posted 05 October 2007 - 11:26 AM
Finally Roxio Creator & MyDVD 9.0 DE would work, and I didn't get the MPEG-2 "no permission" error. I could burn a data DVD.
However it didn't have the "Create DVD" option. Also Sonic CinePlayer would never work -- playing a video DVD would cause a momentary hourglass, but nothing would play.
I now understand the DE version which Dell bundles doesn't have video DVD authoring. Yet there was an option labeled "Create DVD", which led to the previously-stated error sequence.
My guess is the Dell-pre-installed Roxio Creator software is configured improperly on some machines as delivered. Don't know if the cause is procedural, wrong installation image files, or what. Apparently it has the "Create DVD" option, yet the DE version doesn't have that capability.
Other problems were probably caused by the "sledge hammer" de-installation procedure which Roxio publishes. This is an elaborate procedure involving over 30 steps, requiring over a dozen reboots, and includes use of 3rd-party registry cleaning software, which can make hundreds of registry changes.
At this point my option is continue working with Dell to resolve the CinePlayer problem, then upgrade Roxio to Premier to gain video DVD authoring, or else de-install and use an alternate product.
This has not been a good experience, and has consumed two full work days.
#7
Posted 05 October 2007 - 11:34 AM
Their installation procedure is probably different as well (as it comes bundled with the OS on installation) so the normal clean install method probably won't work as you won't have the CD to re-install
And as a fyi - the clean install doesn't require a plethora of reboots
"Rincewind could scream for mercy in nineteen languages and just scream in another forty-four "
"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that will do them in."
“Computers have enabled people to make more mistakes faster than almost any invention in history, with the possible exception of tequila and hand guns.” — Mitch Ratcliffe
Daithi
Home Brew computer
Intel I7 950 on Gigabyte X58A UD3R mobo
12 GB Three Channel DDRAM
Radeon HD4850 512 MB GDR3 graphics
Signalink USB Audio Codec for ham radio connection
1 x 160 GB, 1 x 330 GB, 1 x 400 GB IDE drives
4 x 250 GB SATA 2
LG HL-DT-ST GGW-H20L BD-RE drive
22" Acer P223W monitor
EMC 7.5 on Windows XP 32 SP3
EMC10 on Windows XP64 SP2
Creator 2011 on Windows 7 Ultimate
ECD6 on Gentoo Linux (running under VMWare)
#8
Posted 05 October 2007 - 11:56 AM
the normal clean install method probably won't work as you won't have the CD to re-install
...And as a fyi - the clean install doesn't require a plethora of reboots
Dell ships a CD to re-install, labeled "Roxio Creator & MyDVD 9.0 DE". Unknown if the Roxio re-installation procedures are compatible with that CD -- maybe that's another problem area.
If you follow the entire Roxio "clean removal and re-install" procedure and reboot each time the app or XP requests it, it takes about a dozen reboots. The registry cleaning program alone probably required 5 reboots. I realize there may be shortcuts where you can skip some and get by with it, but in a problem solving mode the most conservative path is usually best.
It is a very cumbersome and time-consuming process.
#9
Posted 05 October 2007 - 02:56 PM
If you follow the entire Roxio "clean removal and re-install" procedure and reboot each time the app or XP requests it, it takes about a dozen reboots. The registry cleaning program alone probably required 5 reboots. I realize there may be shortcuts where you can skip some and get by with it, but in a problem solving mode the most conservative path is usually best.
It is a very cumbersome and time-consuming process.
I see 7 steps with one reboot. The only "3rd party" program involved is from MicroSoft…
It really sounds like you need to pursue this with Dell. The DE version seem to work for the vast majority of Dell users.
XP Pro/SP2
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 w/AGP8X
#10
Posted 07 October 2007 - 09:01 AM
It really sounds like you need to pursue this with Dell. The DE version seem to work for the vast majority of Dell users.
Just to be clear, the procedure that Roxio support sent me is about 30 separate steps. In addition to running specialized utilities from Roxio and Microsoft, it also involves use of a 3rd party registry cleaning tool from Abexo. Many, many reboots are required.
All that should be unnecessary. The only registry and file changes made during installation are made by Roxio software. Roxio knows what those changes are -- the Roxio developer who wrote the installation code specifically made each one. Therefore they should have a single-step "clean removal" tool which reverses all those changes, without requiring the outlandishly complex procedure involving various 3rd-party tools.
I pursued it with Dell, they were remotely connected to my system for many hours trying to fix it. Ultimately they got Easy Media Creator 9 to work, although there was no "create DVD" functionality (which I now understand is probably an intentional limitation of the DE version). However they were not able to get the Sonic media player to work.
After spending two full days working on this, I gave up and purchased an alternate product, which installed and worked perfectly with no errors.
I realize that Roxio Premium might likewise work well if installed from scratch, but this was such a bad experience I didn't feel like risking that path.
My advice for any other new Dell owners who experience this is immediately pursue it with Dell -- don't mess around with the complex Roxio procedure. The software is Roxio, but Dell shipped it already installed, hence Dell has primary responsibility to make it work.
If you're not a new Dell owner, you might have to pursue the Roxio procedure. Actually it would be interesting if the only ones who encounter this are new Dell owners. That could indicate the primary fault is a configuration issue with how Dell is pre-installing the software.
#11
Posted 07 October 2007 - 10:07 AM
Dell not only pre-install, they also modify (and cut down) the suite.
Roxio didn't write the installer - if you look you see a .msi file - that's MicroSoft Installer, so the 'third party app' is actually a MS one to clean up another MS one
What seems to cause most of the problems is trying to install the full suite over a pre-installed, cut-down, modified version that isn't willing to come out cleanly. If Dell had done the same thing with the alternative you purchased, it's almost certain that you'd be on their website with the same problem
"Rincewind could scream for mercy in nineteen languages and just scream in another forty-four "
"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that will do them in."
“Computers have enabled people to make more mistakes faster than almost any invention in history, with the possible exception of tequila and hand guns.” — Mitch Ratcliffe
Daithi
Home Brew computer
Intel I7 950 on Gigabyte X58A UD3R mobo
12 GB Three Channel DDRAM
Radeon HD4850 512 MB GDR3 graphics
Signalink USB Audio Codec for ham radio connection
1 x 160 GB, 1 x 330 GB, 1 x 400 GB IDE drives
4 x 250 GB SATA 2
LG HL-DT-ST GGW-H20L BD-RE drive
22" Acer P223W monitor
EMC 7.5 on Windows XP 32 SP3
EMC10 on Windows XP64 SP2
Creator 2011 on Windows 7 Ultimate
ECD6 on Gentoo Linux (running under VMWare)

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