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TIVO File Transfer Storage Location on Mac Where are Tivo files stored when pref location not available?

#1 User is offline   max HOPPER 

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 03:29 AM

I transferred files from TIVO without the "preferences" specified disk/destination mounted. Files can be played but cannot be located. "Find" will not find by name, size or file type. Where would TIVO transfers be stored when specified location unavailable? I have looked at all folders on HD and cannot find any files but they play in Toast Player when selected from TIVO Transfer window so I know they exist somewhere? Space is used when another file is transferred but the file is apparently invisible. I am using Mac OS 10.4.10. Tech support has been unable to help so far.
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (max HOPPER @ Oct 7 2007, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I transferred files from TIVO without the "preferences" specified disk/destination mounted. Files can be played but cannot be located. "Find" will not find by name, size or file type. Where would TIVO transfers be stored when specified location unavailable? I have looked at all folders on HD and cannot find any files but they play in Toast Player when selected from TIVO Transfer window so I know they exist somewhere? Space is used when another file is transferred but the file is apparently invisible. I am using Mac OS 10.4.10. Tech support has been unable to help so far.


Indirect methods might help. Keep in mind that video files will be much larger than your garden variety files, in the gigabit range. Therefore, if you search for very large files, those video files should pop up near the top of the list.

I use a program called WhatSize to figure out what things are eating up the majority of my disc space. It reports the largest files on your disk in order of size. You should be able to google and download the thing fairly quickly. Just look for the biggest files, especially in an unexpected location, and you should spot your wayward videos.

You can also do Finder searches based on the creation date, if you remember when you performed these transfers. Then just sort the result by size, and again, the lost files should be near the top of the list.

Of course, this presumes the transfer actually took place. It occurs to me that maybe no transfer took place, and that the reason you can't find the files is because they never got written.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 07:30 AM

QUOTE (Sluggo042-2 @ Oct 7 2007, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Indirect methods might help. Keep in mind that video files will be much larger than your garden variety files, in the gigabit range. Therefore, if you search for very large files, those video files should pop up near the top of the list.

I use a program called WhatSize to figure out what things are eating up the majority of my disc space. It reports the largest files on your disk in order of size. You should be able to google and download the thing fairly quickly. Just look for the biggest files, especially in an unexpected location, and you should spot your wayward videos.

You can also do Finder searches based on the creation date, if you remember when you performed these transfers. Then just sort the result by size, and again, the lost files should be near the top of the list.

Of course, this presumes the transfer actually took place. It occurs to me that maybe no transfer took place, and that the reason you can't find the files is because they never got written.

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 07:41 AM

Sluggo
Thank you for taking the time to think about and reply to my problem. (So far more than Roxio has done.) Yes, the transfers did take place since I can play them in Toast Video Player from the Tivo Transfer window. I have searched the HD at length, as you suggested, for large files, MP4s, M4P, and by date etc and have had no success. The drive size (used space) increments when I transfer a program but it does not show discretely in any folder or location. It appears the file is invisible but normal MAC revelatory methods do not show them. I suppose they could be wherever TOAST keeps "loaded" files for manipulation but these are not available as discrete files either. Obviously, they do not show up in any TOAST window or that of any affiliated application except TIVO TRANSFER. A reel (forgive me) mystery. Best to Nancy.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 08:17 AM

Have you tried right-clicking on the transfered show in the Tivo Transfer program and selecting "Reveal in Finder"? Then right-click the show, select "Get Info", and look at the "Where:".

Hope this helps,
Ken
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (kmitchell @ Oct 8 2007, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you tried right-clicking on the transfered show in the Tivo Transfer program and selecting "Reveal in Finder"? Then right-click the show, select "Get Info", and look at the "Where:".

Hope this helps,
Ken


And if you don't have a two-button mouse, hold down the control key while you click on the item, and that will accomplish the same thing.

Nifty trick, I didn't know about the Reveal in Finder feature thingy. Very useful! I'll be curious to see if that answers the question for the fellow.

Doug G.
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:26 AM

QUOTE (max HOPPER @ Oct 8 2007, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sluggo
Thank you for taking the time to think about and reply to my problem. (So far more than Roxio has done.) Yes, the transfers did take place since I can play them in Toast Video Player from the Tivo Transfer window. I have searched the HD at length, as you suggested, for large files, MP4s, M4P, and by date etc and have had no success. The drive size (used space) increments when I transfer a program but it does not show discretely in any folder or location. It appears the file is invisible but normal MAC revelatory methods do not show them. I suppose they could be wherever TOAST keeps "loaded" files for manipulation but these are not available as discrete files either. Obviously, they do not show up in any TOAST window or that of any affiliated application except TIVO TRANSFER. A reel (forgive me) mystery. Best to Nancy.



So, the curious amongst us want to know - did that last trick from kmitchell, right clicking on the title in Tivo Transfer, solve your problem?

Nancy send her regards. With a little dotted line running from her eye.

Sluggo
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 12:56 PM

QUOTE (Sluggo042-2 @ Oct 11 2007, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the curious amongst us want to know - did that last trick from kmitchell, right clicking on the title in Tivo Transfer, solve your problem?

Nancy send her regards. With a little dotted line running from her eye.

Sluggo



Well.
Seems I jumped the gun before I read the post and entered a new target file for transfers and all the previously transferred programs disappeared from the "Tivo Recordings" window. Alas, I cannot try the "trick" on those files but, as I am sure you know, now the files are readily available in the updated location. However-- the disk space utilized DID NOT decrease. Therefore it seems to me that the files are still somewhere but not available even to Tivo Transfer. Woe is me! Stumped and thumped.
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Posted 19 October 2007 - 03:12 AM

QUOTE (max HOPPER @ Oct 18 2007, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well.
Seems I jumped the gun before I read the post and entered a new target file for transfers and all the previously transferred programs disappeared from the "Tivo Recordings" window. Alas, I cannot try the "trick" on those files but, as I am sure you know, now the files are readily available in the updated location. However-- the disk space utilized DID NOT decrease. Therefore it seems to me that the files are still somewhere but not available even to Tivo Transfer. Woe is me! Stumped and thumped.


I can't for the life of me figure out why the .tivo files would become invisible to the finder. Sure, the linix underpinnings of OS X can render files invisible, but nothing in a standard Tivo/Toast process should do that to a file.

About the only thing I can still suggest is to go to

http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/

and download the program WhatSize, load it onto your Mac, and then run the thing. It's pretty self-explanatory. You can have it scan your drive in search of these files, and since they're going to be bigger than just about anything else on your drive, you should be able to narrow down their location fairly easily. Presuming that there's not something even weirder than I'm imagining going on.

Sluggo042
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Posted 19 October 2007 - 08:59 AM

You may want to try to use unix commands to find the files.

from terminal:

type "cd" (to get to your home directory)

type "sudo ls -Rla > /tmp/temp.out" (this may take awhile)

type "sudo grep TiVo /tmp/temp.out > /tmp/TiVo.out"


Use a text editor to look at /tmp/TiVo.out and see if you can find your files.

If Yes, they are somewhere in your home directory structure. If No, we'll need to broaden our search.

Ken


QUOTE (Sluggo042-2 @ Oct 19 2007, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't for the life of me figure out why the .tivo files would become invisible to the finder. Sure, the linix underpinnings of OS X can render files invisible, but nothing in a standard Tivo/Toast process should do that to a file.

About the only thing I can still suggest is to go to

http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/

and download the program WhatSize, load it onto your Mac, and then run the thing. It's pretty self-explanatory. You can have it scan your drive in search of these files, and since they're going to be bigger than just about anything else on your drive, you should be able to narrow down their location fairly easily. Presuming that there's not something even weirder than I'm imagining going on.

Sluggo042

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 12:59 PM

Hello.

I have run into this with the TiVo software as well as P2P software.

If you launch the software without having the external drive attached the software will create an invisible drive of the same name, but it is actually saving the files to your internal hard drive. What you need to do is have your computer attached to your external drive and then do a search from the finder level for:
Visibility = Invisible Items
Kind = Any

If your external drive is called "FWDrive" then when you do the search you will see files in a volume called "FWDrive 1". You need to copy the files from the "invisible" volume to the regular volume. After you copy the files to the correct location you need to delete the invisible volume and restart your computer. If you want to you can then drag the "volumes" folder to your finder window sidebar. This will then show you all visible and invisible drives.

I hope I am explaining this well enough for you. It took me several months to figure out what was going on when this was happening to me.

-Derek
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 03:52 AM

How about using Spotlight and searching for .tivo files?
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