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[caroldhughes]

I have EMC 9, running Windows XP, ver. 2002 with SP 2. I have copied 1 (of many) home movie from VHS to DVD. It shows as "Samsung DVD Recorder Vol. (D:)" when explore my computer. There are two folders Video_RM and Video_TS in D.  The RM folder has .dat, dbup and .ifo files.  The TS folder has .ifo, .bup, and .vob files. I tried to copy the files to my hard drive in order to edit them, but when I tried to open EMC and try to add video - or edit video - I got a message that there are no media files in the folder. I trashed the files that were on the hard drive and am starting over, however I have no idea where to start. My movie is on a DVD+R disc. The plan is to edit the movie - and add more - to distribute to my kids.  I have read the tutorial - and I have no doubt that once I can get to it - I can edit the movie.  Thus far, I can't find anything on how to get started.  Any help would be appreciated.

[Larry]

Sounds like you made the dvd disc using a set top dvd recorder, and that the disc is not yet finalized. Pop the disc back in the recorder and finalize it, then try importing the video to your computer.

[caroldhughes]

Sounds like you made the dvd disc using a set top dvd recorder, and that the disc is not yet finalized. Pop the disc back in the recorder and finalize it, then try importing the video to your computer.

Is it possible to view the movie on my computer and not have the disc finalized?  I can view the movie on my DVD player associated with the televion and on my computer as well.

[james_hardin]

Is it possible to view the movie on my computer and not have the disc finalized?  I can view the movie on my DVD player associated with the televion and on my computer as well.

If you use 'plus' RW media, then yes.

If you are using 'dash' RW media, then yes, no, maybe…

IF you finalize 'dash' media in the Recorder then absolutely, yes!

[caroldhughes]

If you use 'plus' RW media, then yes.

If you are using 'dash' RW media, then yes, no, maybe…

IF you finalize 'dash' media in the Recorder then absolutely, yes!

The disc is finalized - I attempted to finalize it again - the Samsung DVD-VR330 won't allow me to finalize - so I asked my husband if he remembered finalizing the disc - and he does remember doing it.  I have an email into Samsung as well.  Could the "finalizing" process prevent future editing?

[Wingwiper]

The disc is finalized - I attempted to finalize it again - the Samsung DVD-VR330 won't allow me to finalize - so I asked my husband if he remembered finalizing the disc - and he does remember doing it.  I have an email into Samsung as well.  Could the "finalizing" process prevent future editing?

I am almost certain, you only need to reformat the DVD Rw and it will be re usable.  I have ONLY used my DVD RWs in my computer, so never really needed to Finalize, but I do think I did one and I reformatted it and was able to dump data on it again.

Due to the quick rotting process of DVD RWs, and the inexpensive price of DVDs,  I got rid of all my DVD RWs and use only Rs.

Edited by Wingwiper, 10 October 2007 - 11:50 AM.

[james_hardin]

Some DVD Recorders will not format a finalized RW… My Sony was that way, requiring me to Erase them in my PC in order to reuse the RWs…

Great Moment in my life was putting the Sony out with the trash! Never looked back…

My DVD RWs include a batch of 10 TDK's I bought 4 years ago. Almost all have exceeded 100 write/erases and I have yet to see one fail. – RW was never intended for anything to be kept on it for long term archive, but 4 years of continuous use is looking pretty good to me.

[caroldhughes]

I am almost certain, you only need to reformat the DVD Rw and it will be re usable.  I have ONLY used my DVD RWs in my computer, so never really needed to Finalize, but I do think I did one and I reformatted it and was able to dump data on it again.

Due to the quick rotting process of DVD RWs, and the inexpensive price of DVDs,  I got rid of all my DVD RWs and use only Rs.

I will try to see if I can reformat.  So far, I haven't been able to get into the menu that would allow that with the DVD with the movie that I am trying to edit.  For the record the disc is not RW - it is a Philips DVD+R disc.  When I insert it into my Samsung DVD-VR330 (connected to my TV) - it immediately begins to play - and won't allow me to access the setup/formatting area.  I have an email into Samsung to see if they have any suggestions.

[james_hardin]

RW media can be reused only because it can be erased/reformatted.

With R media Finalize means just what it says!

[caroldhughes]

RW media can be reused only because it can be erased/reformatted.

With R media Finalize means just what it says!

But I thought that if I copied the material on the DVD to my computer, I could edit it there.  If that's not the case - then I'm thinking that I should copy from VHS to DVD RW, do my editing - then copy on R media for my kids.  Right?

[myguggi]

But I thought that if I copied the material on the DVD to my computer, I could edit it there.  If that's not the case - then I'm thinking that I should copy from VHS to DVD RW, do my editing - then copy on R media for my kids.  Right?

If you want to edit video you should copy it from VHS to your PC hard drive and do the editing there> You cannot do editing to a RW DVD.

[james_hardin]

Carol you are confusing this beyond what is needed. That and a little drift of topic isn't helping…

You started the thread on a problem of getting the info off of a DVD recorded in a Recorder.

It was explained that you have to Finalize the disc in the Recorder in order to allow your PC/Roxio to read it. (this is mostly true but there are other ways to avoid it)

Then you wanted to know if you can reuse the disc. I answered yes and no and explained that RW can be erased but R cannot.

Now you are asking about where you edit…

Of course you edit in your PC but it is irrelevant if you cannot capture the files you have from your source disc.

When you have a chance, get a few DVD+RW discs. NOTE the "+". If your Recorder will record on 'plus' media (some don't) you will eliminate all of extra finalizing steps you have to go through with 'dash' media. Even if you have a Recorder that can't use 'plus' media to record on, you can still use it in your PC to make test DVDs with.

So, back to question One, can you import your source files???

[caroldhughes]

Carol you are confusing this beyond what is needed. That and a little drift of topic isn't helping…

You started the thread on a problem of getting the info off of a DVD recorded in a Recorder.

It was explained that you have to Finalize the disc in the Recorder in order to allow your PC/Roxio to read it. (this is mostly true but there are other ways to avoid it)

Then you wanted to know if you can reuse the disc. I answered yes and no and explained that RW can be erased but R cannot.

Now you are asking about where you edit…

Of course you edit in your PC but it is irrelevant if you cannot capture the files you have from your source disc.

When you have a chance, get a few DVD+RW discs. NOTE the "+". If your Recorder will record on 'plus' media (some don't) you will eliminate all of extra finalizing steps you have to go through with 'dash' media. Even if you have a Recorder that can't use 'plus' media to record on, you can still use it in your PC to make test DVDs with.

So, back to question One, can you import your source files???

I'm sorry for the confusion - I will try to be more clear.  I have a VHS to DVD recorder hooked up to my tv - (nowhere near to my computer).  I have a movie on DVD+R (that is finalized) that I want to edit (it is old kids movies, not copyright protected).  I realize that the disc itself is "finalized" - but I thought that I could  copy the files from the DVD to my hard drive and use EMC9 to edit the movie - then copy it back to DVDs that I could then give to my kids.  I copied the files to my computer - but when I attempt to get to them using EMC 9, it says that there are no media files at that location.  Maybe it is as simple as I just need to record on DVD+/- discs. I can pick some up today.  But in a nutshell - and cannot import the source files - I can copy the files to my computer - but they appear useless, they show up as .ifo, .bup, and .vob files which I cannot open individually.

[malatekid]

Open the Videowave program, select Add Movie/Photo and select the vob file. You can then edit that video file in Videowave.

Just in case you have difficulty bringing in the vob file to Videowave, rename the file with mpg extension (that is, change *.vob to *.mpg). Try now to bring in the mpg file to Videowave.

Let us know how it goes.

Edited by malatekid, 11 October 2007 - 05:47 AM.

[james_hardin]

Jess's answer will only take you as far as editing them on your PC. But that is a good start!

From there you will need to output them to another DVD. For that you will use MyDVD.

A simple way is while in VW, select the Burn to DVD option. It will give you a simplified version of MyDVD and you will be able to burn from there.

This is where that RW media will come in handy for testing. Burn one and throw it in your Recorder to see how it looks.

If you like, it burn another using R media.

If you don't like the result, you can change your project, erase the RW and use it again.

Keep us informed of your progress.

[Wingwiper]

You could also use EMC9 to do a Video capture to your hard drive and then edit the video and once completed, save to a NEW DVD all using EMC9.

[caroldhughes]

Thanx for your help.  The video is copying as I type (hopefully, fingers crossed, etc., it has taken over 2 hrs - but it is a long video - hence the need to pare it down....).  I will attempt to do some editing - maybe not until the weekend - and let you know how it goes.  I do wish that the materials provided gave some hint as to where to start.  I took a look at the video tutorials - they made sense - but nothing that I saw seemed to address the basics (for newbies).  Maybe it's different for folks who have their computers hooked up to their tvs (don't even want to tell you how old our not-wide-screen-not digital tv is).  But now there is the equipment available to transfer the VHS to DVD - but no instruction that I could find about how to start.  Roxio could do people like me a favor by providing the basics.  It's one thing to say that you can "easily transfer and combine media files" but quite another to talk about the specific of how to go there.  Maybe there are too many situations to address.  I have been most pleased with my results - once I learned how to get started - and the tutorials are good after you get into it.  It's just the beginning "how to" that I have found frustrating.  And, as always - it is wonderful to have the wealth of knowledge out there to tap into.  Sorry again for the confusion in my posts - and the subsequent diversions.  Looks good right now - will let you my results (and questions) later.  Thank you again.

[james_hardin]

"Easy" is a relative term… I found V6 very easy to use and understand. But I spent 5 days reading and re-reading the manual before I ever installed the program!

I still think V6 was the easiest to use, but it probably offered less than 10% of the features of V7, 8, 9 & 10!!! Users screamed for more and with more comes complexity.

You are well on your way now and we look forward to your progress reports.