[petewills]

Gooday All
I have a Hauppage WinTV NOVA T SE USB 2.0 digital terrestrial TV stick Freeview receiver, which picks up all programs perfectly and records extremely well to my hard disc; the recordings can only be saved as MPEG2 files. G Spot reports that codecs are installed - Video MPEG 2 and Audio MPEG-1 Layer 2 (4800HZ 256kb/s Stereo). The render in G Spot reports filter combination as Sonic HD Demuxer, MPEG Audio decoder and Default DirectSound Device. The files play with video and sound in G Spot Test preview, Windows Media Player 11 and also in Roxio Cineplayer.
When I select these files in Videowave, the pop-up box reports the filename, filesize and Date of creation/modification and states: "Attributes:No attributes available" - the display just shows a grey background with MPEG on it. If I attempt to add a file, I get the warning " one or more of the files you are trying to add cannot be edited, and have not been added ".
Am I missing a trick, is there any way to get Videowave to recognise the files - is it to do with the fact that I have integrated sound, rather than a sound card and the audio recording is MPEG-1 Layer 2.
I can encode these files with the SUPER program to MPEG2 video and MP2 audio and then Videowave happily accepts them for editing without any hassle, but the conversion/encoding does degrade the output a little.
Does anyone know a better way to get the files into Videowave, other than a dedicated capture device. Regrettably the capture program does not recognise the USB stick as a suitable device and why should it.

If anyone has come across my newbie postings concerning proxy file manager, cinemasteraudio.dll and runtime errors, I have had no problems since I started to use the applications individually from the Start Menu, rather than through the main Home icon - very strange, so thanks also to all those users who suggested this course of action. Further, in MyDVD, "burning" a folder set has avoided the nuisance of errors which could occur when burning the production straight to disc. I am grateful to all those who suggested that ISOs etc. were a more reliable method.
Why is EMC 9 Suite so fragile.

Thanks again.

Dell Dimension 4600 [2003]
Pentium 4 CPU 2.80 GHz
Windows XP Home, SP2, IE7, WMP11
All updates installed
Integrated SoundMax
NVidia Geforce FX5200 128MB
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
HDD 80 GB
2560MB RAM DDR333MHz
DVD-ROM, 52 x CD Rewriter
External LG Super Multi DVD Burner
BT Voyager Router
All drivers updated

This post has been edited by petewills: 08 October 2007 - 04:40 AM

[ggrussell]

I can't find that device on the Hauppauge website, but it sounds like a HDTV receiver. The integrated sound card or the MPEG 1 layer 2 sound should not cause any problems. Most likely there is a problem if the file is HiDef MPEG 2.

SUPER is probably converting the file to standard definition. EMC 9 should accept HiDef files, but I haven't seen any guidelines as to which types/file formats.

[gi7omy]

Gary - that particular card is a Brit version for digital TV reception from ground based transmitters (which is probably why you couldn't find it - it's here).

I don't think it's specifically HDTV to be honest - just Digital Video Broadcast

However Pete, did you check the various configurations for your card (as well as installing the latest video drivers and DirectX from Microsoft)?

There's a good set of details for setting up here

Also, do a test recording and check it with gspot to see if you may need a third party codec

[petewills]

I can't find that device on the Hauppauge website, but it sounds like a HDTV receiver. The integrated sound card or the MPEG 1 layer 2 sound should not cause any problems. Most likely there is a problem if the file is HiDef MPEG 2.

SUPER is probably converting the file to standard definition. EMC 9 should accept HiDef files, but I haven't seen any guidelines as to which types/file formats.

Gary
Many thanks for taking the trouble to reply.

My WinTV stick is described here

To avoid repetition, I've put more info in my reply to gi7omy.

I have always found SUPER an excellent program for many formats, but would not trust it to deal with the lengthy files created by recording from the WinTV device, thus my desire to import recordings straight to videowave and of course to avoid any degradation.

Pete

Dell Dimension 4600 [2003]
Pentium 4 CPU 2.80 GHz
Windows XP Home, SP2, IE7, WMP11
All updates installed
Integrated SoundMax
NVidia Geforce FX5200 128MB
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
HDD 80 GB
2560MB RAM DDR333MHz
DVD-ROM, 52 x CD Rewriter
External LG Super Multi DVD Burner
BT Voyager Router
All drivers updated

Gary - that particular card is a Brit version for digital TV reception from ground based transmitters (which is probably why you couldn't find it - it's here).

I don't think it's specifically HDTV to be honest - just Digital Video Broadcast

However Pete, did you check the various configurations for your card (as well as installing the latest video drivers and DirectX from Microsoft)?

There's a good set of details for setting up here

Also, do a test recording and check it with gspot to see if you may need a third party codec

gi7omy - I'm messing up my replies

Thanks for your suggestions

For accuracy, my WinTV stick is described here

I had already updated the WinTV drivers to version 4, recorded a snippet and tried it in Videowave with the same result, so gave up.
Being pretty clueless, I had just looked at the basic info in G Spot. Now I see from checking the individual video and audio renders (instead of just selecting the MS A/V option), that there appear to be many instances of "failed to connect output pin" relating to Cyberlink MPEG-2 Splitter and Ligos MPEG video decoder - video render (haven't worked out how to export the info to a text format) and Cyberlink again, Sonic HD Demuxer and MPEG 2 Demultiplexer - audio render (MPEG layer 3 decoder and MPEG layer 3 audio codec for MSACM).

To continue, never knew there was so much in G Spot - it tells me files are missing:

MPEG 1 Packet Ligos MPEG video decoder
Dolby_AC3 Sonic Cinemaster © ATI SPDIF Adapter (could this be my cinemasteraudio problem)
Video AVSynChroniser filter

(plus loads of files to do with Pinnacle (who?)

Perhaps another install / repair of EMC9 is required, to get at the Sonic pack - it's never made any difference before.
Pete.

Dell Dimension 4600 [2003]
Pentium 4 CPU 2.80 GHz
Windows XP Home, SP2, IE7, WMP11
All updates installed
Integrated SoundMax
NVidia Geforce FX5200 128MB
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
HDD 80 GB
2560MB RAM DDR333MHz
DVD-ROM, 52 x CD Rewriter
External LG Super Multi DVD Burner
BT Voyager Router
All drivers updated

This post has been edited by petewills: 10 October 2007 - 01:31 PM

[gi7omy]

I thought that may be it (missing codecs)

Go here and get the full pack and install it (it has just about every codec you could shake a stick at and then some more )

Just install it - you don't need it to be in the start menu as it's never actually run as an app (except for their 'classic media player', which can handle quicktime .mov files)

Pinnacle are a hardware manufacturer btw, specialising in video capturing (you get a Pinnacle DVC100 bundled with EMC 10 De Luxe)

[petewills]

I thought that may be it (missing codecs)

Go here and get the full pack and install it (it has just about every codec you could shake a stick at and then some more :lol:)

Just install it - you don't need it to be in the start menu as it's never actually run as an app (except for their 'classic media player', which can handle quicktime .mov files)

Pinnacle are a hardware manufacturer btw, specialising in video capturing (you get a Pinnacle DVC100 bundled with EMC 10 De Luxe)

Hello Daithi - please excuse former ignorance.

I do try to resolve issues before asking for help.

I have previously tried the AcePro massive bundle, the Windows XP bundle and the K-Lite Pack, with no success, perhaps due to the fact that I am never sure what I should be configuring. Thought I would give your suggestion another try and installed K-Lite full pack. Ran the codec tweak and chose to reset to normal configuration, and fixed broken codecs. Same results, Videowave identifies files recorded before and after the WinTV update as having no attributes available, so I imagine that I should now change some settings in the codec tweak, but have no idea what to go for. I did dabble a little, but as this resulted in WMP11 refusing to play a mixture of files, I obviously got it wrong.
Uninstalled the pack, it removed DivX and also took with it the divxdec.ax file from WinSys32. Did not fancy a reinstall of DivX and EMC9 to sort this out; happily for once system restore came in handy and put everything back as it was, so back to square one.

(Off current topic, the pinned item on the Forum about DivX files was never correct in my case - when I bought the suite I did not have DivX installed and Roxio originally put this file in WinSys32, in a lower case format, not as described in the article as DivXDec.ax - it was never anywhere else.)

I have kept the K-Lite bundle and will just leave it for a while and have another go at a later stage.
Thanks anyway for your interest and suggestions, it seems to be my own shortcomings which are preventing me from resolving the matter.

Pete
Dell Dimension 4600
Pentium 4 CPU 2.80 GHz
Windows XP Home, SP2, IE7, WMP11
All updates installed
Integrated SoundMax
NVidia Geforce FX5200 128MB
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
HDD 80 GB
2560MB RAM DDR333MHz
DVD-ROM, 52 x CD Rewriter
External LG Super Multi DVD Burner
BT Voyager Router
All drivers updated

[petewills]

Gary, Daithi

Just to wrap this up.

No amount of codec installation or tweaking has persuaded Videowave to import my TV mpegs.

I can continue to use the free SUPER, or get the programme, which I am now trying out, namely VideoReDo Plus,
which is an easier and quicker method of getting problem files into editing.

VideoReDo will do a 'Quickstream Fix', and output the file with an acceptable stream.

Simple process, very quick, quality is good and no lip-sync problems.

Videowave then recognises the file as having a video stream, (previously only audio).

This is just a tiny part of the program and my fixed files, so far, have all been possible on default settings.

Thanks again.

Pete