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[chuckz]

Has Roxio released the capability of creating a boot CD in place of the diskette only boot media?

[marlinsinger]

Has Roxio released the capability of creating a boot CD in place of the diskette only boot media?

Not yet, as least as far as a standalone version of BUMP is concerned. I am not sure about the version that was included with EMC9. The early version of that 7.05?, could not even do DR. There was an update, but do not know if that was added back in.
Still waiting myself.

Edited by marlinsinger, 10 October 2007 - 03:16 AM.

[gi7omy]

Later versions restored the ability to create a bootable CD but personally I always found that a more elegant method (cloning the Windows boot system) was available from here or here

[chuckz]

Later versions restored the ability to create a bootable CD but personally I always found that a more elegant method (cloning the Windows boot system) was available from here or here

I downloaded Bart's (the 1st source) and ran. Looked good until a got a warning that unexpected results may occur because I'm not using an original copy of MS/XP. My PC from Dell has the Dell version loaded. The 2nd source  looks good too but indicates it's for using on a cherry MS copy.

I think what I'll do at this point is buy a Wally*World diskette drive ~30 bucks and attach to my notebook. The reason I wanted to have the write to a CD because that's the only inbuilt I/O I have. Dell eliminated the Legacy diskette drive and PCMICA interfaces. It added  an Express Cd interface.

[marlinsinger]

I downloaded Bart's (the 1st source) and ran. Looked good until a got a warning that unexpected results may occur because I'm not using an original copy of MS/XP. My PC from Dell has the Dell version loaded. The 2nd source  looks good too but indicates it's for using on a cherry MS copy.

I think what I'll do at this point is buy a Wally*World diskette drive ~30 bucks and attach to my notebook. The reason I wanted to have the write to a CD because that's the only inbuilt I/O I have. Dell eliminated the Legacy diskette drive and PCMICA interfaces. It added  an Express Cd interface.

Look around, I purchased a USB floppy drive that is basically double the speed of a regular internal floppy. Definitely saved some time on formatting and writing to the floppies. I was also easily able to boot to that drive. Bought at OfficeMax, although I do not see it online. Can't remembre the brand name right now, but will get that when I get home.

Unfortunately, to do a DR, BUMP requires you write to floppies. No way to get around that.

Edit - Just checked the USB floppy drive I bought. It is a Smartdisk.

Edited by marlinsinger, 10 October 2007 - 02:23 PM.

[gi7omy]

Bart's does give funny warnings but with the price of CDs it's not too expensive to make the iso file with it and then burn it and try it out.

You could also try nLite which will let you slipstream MS hotfixes, set up for unattended install and so on

[chuckz]

Bart's does give funny warnings but with the price of CDs it's not too expensive to make the iso file with it and then burn it and try it out.

You could also try nLite which will let you slipstream MS hotfixes, set up for unattended install and so on

I "bit the bullet" and purchased a 3.5" SmartDisk drive from Wal*mart. $34.00 and completed a disaster recovery set of diskettes/DVD. Worked OK. I'd rather have the DVD capability instead of the diskette but I now for the 1st time can have a "your disk crashed and you can't boot" and get back to normal operation in short order. Backing up files is OK if your crash leaves enough XP to reload but this is the best way to go.

[gi7omy]

Actually therre is another approach that will hold quite a bit of data - read this article and see what you think

[chuckz]

Actually therre is another approach that will hold quite a bit of data - read this article and see what you think

Something I did wrong. I downloaded Bart's mkbt file, unzipped (did not execute). Tried to format a diskette....the drive just sat there, didn't move. Could read files from media. Anyhow, I restored the system to yesterday the system found new hardware (a:) and I could then format a diskette. Getting too late for me to look into it any further at this moment. Earlier today I formatted several disks. I added the diskette drive via usb yesterday. Don't know, maybe coincidence and some other action caused the drive not to format.

For the time being, I'll leave things be. "Don't kick the sleeping dog".

[marlinsinger]

Actually therre is another approach that will hold quite a bit of data - read this article and see what you think

Daithi, I have used Bart's to make bootable flash drives for things like BIOs updates, etc. The problem here though is that BUMP's Disaster Recovery will not run without a floppy drive. It's not so much of making a bootable CD for restore, but a floppy drive must be present to do the backup.

Also the restore process expects you to boot from the XP install CD and then use the floppies for running the BUMP restore. I am not sure that just having a bootable CD is enough for the restore process to work.

[chuckz]

Daithi, I have used Bart's to make bootable flash drives for things like BIOs updates, etc. The problem here though is that BUMP's Disaster Recovery will not run without a floppy drive. It's not so much of making a bootable CD for restore, but a floppy drive must be present to do the backup.

Also the restore process expects you to boot from the XP install CD and then use the floppies for running the BUMP restore. I am not sure that just having a bootable CD is enough for the restore process to work.

OK, I found the problem to be of my own making. I successfully formatted 4 diskettes when using 2HD media. When I later attempted to format, I used DS,DD media and it would not format. Unfortunately for me, the drive or XP gave no indication of this when I tried to format. The  DS,DD media could be read and I could copy from the DS,DD media to itself but not format.  

Edited by chuckz, 12 October 2007 - 10:37 AM.

[bl01]

(Sorry I didn't discover this thread before I posted my question in the Sonic Applications forum 3 weeks ago.)

Daithi, I have used Bart's to make bootable flash drives for things like BIOs updates, etc. The problem here though is that BUMP's Disaster Recovery will not run without a floppy drive. It's not so much of making a bootable CD for restore, but a floppy drive must be present to do the backup.

Also the restore process expects you to boot from the XP install CD and then use the floppies for running the BUMP restore. I am not sure that just having a bootable CD is enough for the restore process to work.

Marlin,

BartPE allows you to boot and run a Windows environment from CD.  So if BUMP was installed on this BartPE CD, it could be used to restore from any full backup set .qic file (whether on external HD, USB flash, or CD/DVD).

This seems to be much more elegant than the recommended process requiring DR Set floppies and the XP install CD.  All that's needed is a plugin to install BUMP onto BartPE before it's burned to CD.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
-Barry

[marlinsinger]

(Sorry I didn't discover this thread before I posted my question in the Sonic Applications forum 3 weeks ago.)



Marlin,

BartPE allows you to boot and run a Windows environment from CD.  So if BUMP was installed on this BartPE CD, it could be used to restore from any full backup set .qic file (whether on external HD, USB flash, or CD/DVD).

This seems to be much more elegant than the recommended process requiring DR Set floppies and the XP install CD.  All that's needed is a plugin to install BUMP onto BartPE before it's burned to CD.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
-Barry

Only thing is, I don't believe BUMP is set up to handle plug-ins.

[bl01]

Only thing is, I don't believe BUMP is set up to handle plug-ins.

  BUMP wouldn't handle the plugin, pebuilder would.  The plugin is the .inf file that tells pebuilder about the BUMP registry settings and files that need to be copied to install BUMP into BartPE.  I'm hoping there is a clever-enough person out there who can spell-out that installation sequence.