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NEXT works in simulation but in burn Problems with Next Chapter programming

#1 User is offline   bielski 

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 12:19 AM

I've created an SD sampler DVD with a number of short clips on 4 different menus. ON one menu I've got the individual clips and programmed a PLAY ALL button to play a playlist. I've set the end action for the movies on the menus to return to the menu and the end actions of the movies in the playlist to go to the next movie in the list. When I simulate the burn the do as programmed NEXT takes you to t. When I burn a SD DVD-R and play back the NEXT button takes you to the next numerical title in the movie list no matter which menu it's on.

What am I missing. Is it a chapter thing? Roxio tech is no help. They just tell me to go into msconfig and disable all of my startup programs. I'm convinced its somewhere in the software. HELP
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 06:46 AM

I think you are skipping past the end action when you press next. if you let it just play through it should follow your playlist order.


QUOTE (bielski @ Oct 23 2007, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've created an SD sampler DVD with a number of short clips on 4 different menus. ON one menu I've got the individual clips and programmed a PLAY ALL button to play a playlist. I've set the end action for the movies on the menus to return to the menu and the end actions of the movies in the playlist to go to the next movie in the list. When I simulate the burn the do as programmed NEXT takes you to t. When I burn a SD DVD-R and play back the NEXT button takes you to the next numerical title in the movie list no matter which menu it's on.

What am I missing. Is it a chapter thing? Roxio tech is no help. They just tell me to go into msconfig and disable all of my startup programs. I'm convinced its somewhere in the software. HELP

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Oct 23 2007, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you are skipping past the end action when you press next. if you let it just play through it should follow your playlist order.


But what if you don't feel like sitting through the entire short clip and you just want to go back to the menu or move onto the next clip in the playlist? That's when the problem occurs. Its for the clien with no attention span. They watch 1 minute out of 5 and want to move on to the next thing.

When you hit the next button it takes you to the next numerical title whether that is part of the current menu or not.
Is a workaround to drop a chapter litterally a few frames from the end of clip so that it skips and then does the end action?

I hate workarounds so if anyone has a suggestion how to do this properly.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 12:44 PM

that is the correct workaround, but I would make it more like 14 frames and unfortunately you can't combine that with a trim at the beginning of the title where you are placing the last second chapter point. give that a shot. if you get a vobulator no video found error, your chapter point is too close to the end.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Oct 23 2007, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that is the correct workaround, but I would make it more like 14 frames and unfortunately you can't combine that with a trim at the beginning of the title where you are placing the last second chapter point. give that a shot. if you get a vobulator no video found error, your chapter point is too close to the end.


Is there a way to do it without a workaround? Is it because NEXT is for NEXT TITLE not "skip to end"?
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:52 PM

that is your only viable solution unless you want to get very technical and use something like IFOEdit to manually change the user operations of the disc. I just popped in Shrek 2 and went to the extras. when I select any extra it starts at 0:00. if I press next it jumps to a chapter that is 1 second or less from the end and then the end action executes and take the user back to the menu. In that disc's case if you try to press next again when you hit that last chapter, you are prevented from doing so (must have turned off a UOP which is not an option with DVDit Pro HD) but bottom line is that the chapter at the end is a commonly used technique.
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Posted 26 November 2007 - 08:30 AM

As Scott mentioned, the "dummy" chapter near the end is what I have seen done to get around this issue (even on hollywood DVD's). Some Authoring applications will do this automatically behind-the-scenes (adding the dummy "chapter" to separate Titles to handle this situation).
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