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#1 User is offline   BJNeedsHelp 

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 06:23 AM

In the past I was able to burn an audio CD, but since re-installing EMC 9, every one I burn plays fine on my computer but not on any CD player. The tracks play back with lots of static.

So, in trying to save some media, I used an CD-RW in one of my attempts; however, I can no longer copy to that CD-RW. The message tells me that it is write protected. I can re-format it, but not write to it. How do I remove write protection for a disk?

I have had so much trouble with EMC 9 that I have gone back to 7.5.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:16 AM

You cannot change files on a CD-RW nor can you erase one at a time.The best you can do is erase the whole disc and start anew.
Any time you make a disc unless you write it in sessions you can no longer add to the disc.It's therefore write-protected.
Have you tried the disc on more than one player?Are the results the same?

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE (tbrewst @ Dec 18 2007, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You cannot change files on a CD-RW nor can you erase one at a time.The best you can do is erase the whole disc and start anew.
Any time you make a disc unless you write it in sessions you can no longer add to the disc.It's therefore write-protected.
Have you tried the disc on more than one player?Are the results the same?


I have re-formatted the disk several times and the "Properties" show that it is empty, but I cannot write to it anymore. The message tells me the disk is write-protected.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:47 PM

You don't 'format' it - that sets it up for use by Drag to Disc - go to tools and look for 'erase'
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Dec 18 2007, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't 'format' it - that sets it up for use by Drag to Disc - go to tools and look for 'erase'


I did that first, but it still would not allow me to copy files to it, so I had to format it.

What's the difference? I'm using EMC 9 so drag-to-disc is what always comes on.

Still, my first problem was that I was wasting too many CD's trying to burn an audio CD. When I play them on a CD player, I get a lot of static; but it plays fine on my PC.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:55 PM

Drag to Disc is fine if you are using it for a quick copy between two machines, for anything else it's useless

CDs created by Drag to Disc are NOT playable on anything other than a computer running the same version of D2D

If the disc won't erase, then it's probably reached the end of its useful life I'm afraid
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Dec 18 2007, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Drag to Disc is fine if you are using it for a quick copy between two machines, for anything else it's useless

CDs created by Drag to Disc are NOT playable on anything other than a computer running the same version of D2D

If the disc won't erase, then it's probably reached the end of its useful life I'm afraid



OK. thanks.

But why wont my audio CD's burned with EMC 9 play on my CD players without static? That's why I tried the re-writable disks - to save media.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:03 PM

You can make the CDs on RW discs in the same way as a CD-R - you don't need D2D to do it

Static - first of all, make 100% certain that there are no background apps running - also make sure that your mic is muted (if you have a mic connected) as the system can pick up stray noise from that. Do a spyware sweep, defrag the drive (all the usual advice) but this is to make sure that there is no interruption while you are recording.

Again, how are you capturing the audio> Does the captured file have any background noise when played on the computer? Do your discs have the same background noise on the computer as they do on the player?
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:13 PM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Dec 18 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can make the CDs on RW discs in the same way as a CD-R - you don't need D2D to do it

Static - first of all, make 100% certain that there are no background apps running - also make sure that your mic is muted (if you have a mic connected) as the system can pick up stray noise from that. Do a spyware sweep, defrag the drive (all the usual advice) but this is to make sure that there is no interruption while you are recording.

Again, how are you capturing the audio> Does the captured file have any background noise when played on the computer? Do your discs have the same background noise on the computer as they do on the player?


I used LP & Tape Assistant to copy a tape. I then used Creator Classic to burn an audio CD. The CD's play fine on my PC - no static; but they do not play on any of my CD players. I burned the same audio files using EMC 7.5 without problem.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:27 PM

It's possible its the discs themselves - I've made CDs that will play on one machine - but not on another (then the next batch plays on both and a third batch reverses the order and plays on the first machine and not on the second). It's usually down to the players being picky over what they will and won't play

What sometimes works is if you reduce the burn speed to 50% of what you are using and see if that goes better
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (gi7omy @ Dec 18 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's possible its the discs themselves - I've made CDs that will play on one machine - but not on another (then the next batch plays on both and a third batch reverses the order and plays on the first machine and not on the second). It's usually down to the players being picky over what they will and won't play

What sometimes works is if you reduce the burn speed to 50% of what you are using and see if that goes better


OK. Thanks, I'll try that. It's a good thing CD's are inexpensive, as I've wasted a few!

Bye the bye; one of the forum responants told me how to obtain the information on my PC as listed below. I have forgotten - do you know?

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 03:18 PM

The easiest way is to download the Belarc Advisor and run it.It tells a lot about your system.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 03:47 PM

In addition to what Terry said, DON'T post everything that Belarc Advisor has, because most of it is useless information, so to speak.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (grandpabruce @ Dec 18 2007, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In addition to what Terry said, DON'T post everything that Belarc Advisor has, because most of it is useless information, so to speak.



Thanks, but that's not what I was looking for. I ran something from the "Run" command which gave me all of my system information, but I cannot remember what it was. I got the command from this forum.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 07:28 PM

QUOTE (BJNeedsHelp @ Dec 18 2007, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, but that's not what I was looking for. I ran something from the "Run" command which gave me all of my system information, but I cannot remember what it was. I got the command from this forum.


And, you do have everthing needed, in your signature. It does help, when folks try to trouble shoot what might be wrong.
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 04:48 AM

QUOTE (grandpabruce @ Dec 18 2007, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And, you do have everthing needed, in your signature. It does help, when folks try to trouble shoot what might be wrong.



Thanks Bruce. I found the command I was looking for - it was provided to me by Roxio Support.

It is RUN "dxdiag" - - outputs to your desktop as a txt file.


Still no answer to my original problem - that EMC9 burned CD's are full of static when played on a CD player, but OK on a PC.


Thanks again.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (BJNeedsHelp @ Dec 19 2007, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Bruce. I found the command I was looking for - it was provided to me by Roxio Support.

It is RUN "dxdiag" - - outputs to your desktop as a txt file.
Still no answer to my original problem - that EMC9 burned CD's are full of static when played on a CD player, but OK on a PC.
Thanks again.


Put in a blank CD. If Drag to Disc pops up, cancel it. If you are using EMC 9, open Music Disc Creator, click on Music CD, click on Add Audio Tracks. Browse to your captured audio, and bring in thos tracks. Burn to a CD.
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 08:30 AM

QUOTE (BJNeedsHelp @ Dec 19 2007, 04:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Bruce. I found the command I was looking for - it was provided to me by Roxio Support.

It is RUN "dxdiag" - - outputs to your desktop as a txt file.


Still no answer to my original problem - that EMC9 burned CD's are full of static when played on a CD player, but OK on a PC.


Thanks again.


I don't have an answer for you. I know all of the respondents are very well-intentioned, but I know it's also very frustrating when people don't seem to get to the heart of the matter. From what I read, it's pretty clear to me that the Media Creator 9 has bugs, since your old version works!

I use the Dell (DE) version of MC9, and it basically works (Window XP Home, SP2), but I get 1 or 2 pops or ticks at random places on each copy (on a CD-R) - I have a post about this (yesterday). But if I copy the same CD on my work Dell (1 year older), using Roxio by Sonic Solutions Ver. 2.4.3 DE (2005) it works flawlessly.

Don't you just hate it when the newer version is bugger than older, tried and true, versions! New features yields new problems, and worse, breaks things that used to work!
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE (edjsch @ Apr 7 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have an answer for you. I know all of the respondents are very well-intentioned, but I know it's also very frustrating when people don't seem to get to the heart of the matter. From what I read, it's pretty clear to me that the Media Creator 9 has bugs, since your old version works!

I use the Dell (DE) version of MC9, and it basically works (Window XP Home, SP2), but I get 1 or 2 pops or ticks at random places on each copy (on a CD-R) - I have a post about this (yesterday). But if I copy the same CD on my work Dell (1 year older), using Roxio by Sonic Solutions Ver. 2.4.3 DE (2005) it works flawlessly.

Don't you just hate it when the newer version is bugger than older, tried and true, versions! New features yields new problems, and worse, breaks things that used to work!

It's true that the heart of the matter hasn't been addressed terribly clearly, but the original poster has also kept up the banter of posting specs and then the matter of the RW disc was interspersed, so the whole thread has been rather muddled.

To the heart of the matter. I don't see that problem with EMC 9.

You said you captured using LP & Tape assistant, then you said you used Creator Classic to burn an Audio CD. That can't be, because starting with version 9, Creator Classic lost the ability to burn Audio CDs. That task moved to Music Disc Creator. So, if you really used Creator Classic, you burned a Data CD full of .WAV files, which indeed, your PC can play, but will come out as horrific static on a CD player. Try burning the disc using Music Disc Creator and see if that solves your problem.

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