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#1 amac

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 09:09 PM

I've been using EMC9 for a year. Two weeks ago I assembled a new machine with Vista Home Premium edition, Prior to installing Roxio, I fully updated the OS with Microsoft Update. I then installed EMC9 and then EMC9.1.

Now when I use Videowave and try to remove commercials, my edits (cuts) are no longer working. To describe further:
1. First I cut one segment out using the  controls (resulting in 2 segments)
2 If I play back the video inside videowave, the cut has been acknowleged and the portiion I wanted cut out does not play.
3. Now if I add another cut after the first one (resulting in 3 video segments), the first cut is no longer honored. If I play the video again from a point just before the first cut, even though the timeline show edited segments,  the 'removed' contents will play.

So right now, my only option is to make one cut, render the new video and then edit the new video to remove another segment.

Any suggestions on a fix?

Edited by amac, 07 January 2008 - 09:12 PM.


#2 james_hardin

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:50 AM

If I follow you, you are not actually doing anything???

It sounds like you are splitting, but until such time as you delete the segment you have split, nothing is going to change.

Another way of doing this with Markers is outlined in the Tips & Tricks section. – Here

I prefer the Split/Cut method myself.
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#3 amac

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:17 AM

Sorry, I am clicking on the multi-trim button to delete the segment. I've been doing video edits like this with EMC9 (videowave) for a year now with the only problem being that if I create too many cuts (10+), it seems to hang often during rendering (but that's a different issue on an older machine with much less memory than my current 2GB ram X2 5000 machine).

I have to do more investigation. It may be that it's not calculating the offset into the file correctly as more cuts accumulate. For example, if the first cut is 4 seconds long, it looks like for the next cut I create, it actually resolves it to be 4 seconds later than I had intended.  Since my cuts are actually longer than 4 seconds, it may be why it looked like the cuts wasn't happening because it was happening later  (not sure if anyone follows that).

The wrench in that theory is that let's say the following scenario occurs:
1. I delete the first 40 minutes of a 1 hour show in one big sweeping cut. I should now have a 20 minute segment left (and I do).
2. I then mark another deletion say at the 46 minute (position in the original video) marker to the 50 minute marker.  Clicking on the multi-trim should leave me with a 16 minute video. Unfortunately, the length of the video now grows back to the length of the video before the first cut (less of course the elapsed time of the 2nd cut).

I think this story will change as my investigation proceeds but it's bizarre. This was never a problem with EMC9 on Windows XP. Since I mainly use Videowave and MyDVD, perhaps I should try EMC9 on Vista without the 9.1 update.


QUOTE (james_hardin @ Jan 8 2008, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I follow you, you are not actually doing anything???

It sounds like you are splitting, but until such time as you delete the segment you have split, nothing is going to change.

Another way of doing this with Markers is outlined in the Tips & Tricks section. – Here

I prefer the Split/Cut method myself.

Edited by amac, 08 January 2008 - 05:21 AM.


#4 amac

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 06:46 PM

Well, I took a different approach. I started my multi-trimming from the end of the video and worked my way backwards. Every edit worked perfectly.

I think I will contact support and cross my fingers that someone is listening.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE (amac @ Jan 8 2008, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The wrench in that theory is that let's say the following scenario occurs:
1. I delete the first 40 minutes of a 1 hour show in one big sweeping cut. I should now have a 20 minute segment left (and I do).
2. I then mark another deletion say at the 46 minute (position in the original video) marker to the 50 minute marker. Clicking on the multi-trim should leave me with a 16 minute video. Unfortunately, the length of the video now grows back to the length of the video before the first cut (less of course the elapsed time of the 2nd cut).


I routinely do similar splits/cuts the way you describe in your scenario on 90 minute movies and have never had the video "grow" back. Also what do you mean by multi-trim?

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 03:46 PM

Final update
Well Roxio Support tried to help in a limited way by essentially saying I should continue my editing from right to left in the timeline. I really didn't like doing things that way so ... I gambled ... took the plunge ...

I bought EMC 10 and so far am very content. The 3 products I use the most (Videowave, MyDVD, Sound Editor) all seem to work fine. I really like the suite's new main page as well. Video conversions to my ipod also work where they didn't with EMC9 on Vista.

Enough said. I won't bother with EMC9's vista update anymore.

Edited by amac, 28 January 2008 - 03:52 PM.





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