[vnthiru]

Hi,

I have done all what had been suggested to improve EMC10 performance of on my PC running XP/Pro. Still the performance is poor. Now my PC is being replaced with a new PC with spec which would be the same or better than the current one.

I kept my current PC as clean as possible (without installing any other applications except essential Norton antivirus, etc) and maintained (defragged, etc). Even then, with the current one, I had numerous problems - slow response, unable to copy DVDs, making DVD disk unusable. I searched the internet to test the system independently and found few software's to test the system. Among them Fresh devices/diagnose http://www.freshdevices.com/freshdiag.html seems to be the best. Some bench mark results produce by this software for my current PC can be found at the following links.

http://www.thiru.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dell...layAdapter.html
Internal HD http://www.thiru.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dell9100/HardDisk.html
External HD/USB2 http://www.thiru.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dell...m%20Report.html
http://www.thiru.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dell9100/Memory.html
http://www.thiru.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dell...Multimedia.html
http://www.thiru.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dell.../Processor.html

I am happy with all the results from diagnose except (1) Internal HD performance and (2) I could not find a way of testing the DVD writing performance.

On my PC, should I be able to achieve similar performance to that reported in http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Reviews+inde...nt-id-198.phtml ?




Burning Speed/Expected Burn Time/Burn Time Achieved
1x/60 minutes/60 minutes
2x/30 minutes/30 minutes
4x/15 minutes/15 - 16 minutes
8x/7.5 minutes/8 -10 minutes
12x/5 minutes/7 -9 minutes
16x/4 minutes/5 - 7 minutes
18x/3.3 minutes/5 - 6 minutes

Before buying this computer I bought a Sony DVD recorder with built in Hard disk. It takes about 10 -to 15 minutes to copy 1hr DVD from the hard disk to DVD-RW/+R disks.

With kind regards

Thiru

[ggrussell]

Looks to me like Fresh Devices needs to update their software. Most of those comparisons are against really old hardware. If that is indeed your video card performance, it certainly doesn't meet the minimum requirements of EMC 10. What video card are you using?

I'm also very leary about giving out my REAL ISP account. Any company that will not accept FREE email acoount info, I find suspect regardless what they say about how they use that information.

This post has been edited by ggrussell: 18 January 2008 - 06:30 AM

[Larry]

So what performance are you not happy with? The video encoding or the disc burning?

[ggrussell]

I tried to find info on the Dell 9100 which appears to be a laptop. Unfortunately, most laptops are not built for video editing or gaming. Laptop hard drives are indeed much slower to conserve battery power plus the CPU most likely gears down too when on battery. If you are looking for a computer especially for video editing, don't choose a laptop unless you're willing to purchase a high-end version.

[vnthiru]

Many thanks Gary and Larry.

I am not happy with disc burning. It takes nearly an hour to burn a disc image to DVD+RW and copy a DVD+RW to DVD+R. More details of my Desktop Dell Dimension 9100

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/syst...s.htm#wp1053343

Dimension 9100 P D Processor 840 (3.20GHz, 800MHz fsb, 2x1MB cache) 
1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 400MHz (2x512) Memory 
500GB Serial ATA RAID 0 Stripe [2x250GB 7200rpm ] 
NEC ND-3530A 16x DVD+/-RW & Sony DDU1615 16x DVD-Rom Drives 
ATI Radeon X600 256MB HyperMemory 
Sound Blaster® Audigy¿ 2 ZS (Dell), PCI w/Dolby Digital, 7.1 speaker support and IEEE1394 

[tbrewst]

Burning to a re-writable disc is always slower.
Why not just burn the image to a DVD + or - instead of going to an RW and then copying to a + or - R.

[ggrussell]

It takes nearly an hour to burn a disc image to DVD+RW and copy a DVD+RW to DVD+R. More details of my Desktop Dell Dimension 9100

Also don't confuse 'rendering' and 'burning'. Those are two different steps. Now assuming you k now the difference, it does indeed take ONE HOUR to BURN an image at 1X. So it would appear your DVD+RW maybe getting errors causing the drive to burn at a slower speed. You can always check the quality of the burn with CDSpeed or something like that.

If you have a newer or less used DVD+RW, give that a try. Which app are you using to burn? Video Copy & Convert should give a burn speed the disc is rated before you start. During the burn, it also gives you a readout on actual burn speed. Keep an eye on those to see what is actually happening.

[vnthiru]

Also don't confuse 'rendering' and 'burning'. Those are two different steps. Now assuming you k now the difference, it does indeed take ONE HOUR to BURN an image at 1X. So it would appear your DVD+RW maybe getting errors causing the drive to burn at a slower speed. You can always check the quality of the burn with CDSpeed or something like that.

If you have a newer or less used DVD+RW, give that a try. Which app are you using to burn? Video Copy & Convert should give a burn speed the disc is rated before you start. During the burn, it also gives you a readout on actual burn speed. Keep an eye on those to see what is actually happening.

Thanks again. I am aware of the difference betweeen rendering and burning. My system is going to be replaced. I am not sure how does the processing power of the new one compares with the current one. Will I be able to get the speed given in
http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Reviews+inde...nt-id-198.phtml ????

Current
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Dimension 9100 P D Processor 840 (3.20GHz, 800MHz fsb, 2x1MB cache) 
MS LOGO Label for Win XP 
1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 400MHz (2x512) Memory 
500GB Serial ATA RAID 0 Stripe [2x250GB 7200rpm ] 
16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives 
ATI Radeon X600 256MB HyperMemory 
Sound Blaster® Audigy¿ 2 ZS (Dell), PCI w/Dolby Digital, 7.1 speaker support and IEEE1394 


New
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Inspiron 530 E4500 Core 2 Duo Processor 2.20GHz, 800MHz

Memory Dual Channel 1024MB [2x512] 667 Mhz DDR2
500GB Serial ATA2 Non Raid [2x250GB] 7200RPM Dual HDI
16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives 
256MB ATI Radeon HD 2600XT
Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme - VISTA Only

[Jim_Hardin]

To be blunt, your Old system will be faster than your new one! At least that is my opinion...

Simply a matter of CPU Speed, 3.2ghz is far faster than 2.2ghz everyday of the week.

A 2.2 Duo will be slightly faster than a 2.2ghz, but you will be hard pressed to see any difference.

This post has been edited by Jim_Hardin: 25 January 2008 - 08:46 AM

[ggrussell]

Will I be able to get the speed given in
http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Reviews+inde...nt-id-198.phtml ????

This site quotes burn speeds only. Actual burn speed depends on the blank disc you use. Just because a blank DVD is rated at 16X doesn't mean you will burn at that speed. Inside each drive is a 'list' of DVD media it knows about. If you use something not on that list, the drive may default to something slower. This is why we usually suggest to update firmware. New firmware includes more media types, burn strategies , etc.

Always best to buy blank media suggested by the manufacturer of the DVD burner.

As for the computer, make sure the DVD Burner is utilizing Ultra DMA (if PATA). Other than that, the computer specs won't affect actual DVD burning speed, but will affect video rendering speed.

This post has been edited by ggrussell: 25 January 2008 - 10:45 AM