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#1 xgtdec

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 03:24 PM

Hey There

New to roxio software and thought id register seeing as i will have loads a issue coming up, ya see im a builder of mega systems but a noob at software such as this.

But my first is the time the Div-X option take to create a dvd....its the same as my old hp machine which wast up to much, now i have a beast of a machine and it still crawls...machine specs below...any Ideas??

Case:Thermaltake Armour 25cm side fan
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Hard Drives: 2 x 150 Raptor X,Hardcano 14 Cooler. System: Vista ultimate 64-bit

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#2 Beerman

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 04:17 PM

There are some other programs that will make a dvd from highly compressed files such as divx a bit faster and the quality varies based upon each program and it's settings.  In order to make a dvd, the files must be made compliant (mpeg) and this takes time.  Even with the fastest computer, you'll likely only see minimal speed increases. There's arguments over which processor/brand is better but there is another way.  Get a dvd player that plays divx files and you can fit a number of files on a dvd with more on a dual layer disc and the only time it takes is the time to copy the file to the dvd.  In a great majority of the cases, the quality of files on average size televisions are perfectly acceptable.
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#3 xgtdec

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 03:43 PM

And of course now it wont see my lightscriber....it may be time to return this package...anyone else with the same issue?

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 03:47 PM

You don't give much detail but if Roxio can't see your drive, try this patch and see if that fixes it.
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Posted 20 January 2008 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (xgtdec @ Jan 20 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And of course now it wont see my lightscriber....it may be time to return this package...anyone else with the same issue?


Not many folks, who drop in here, run Vista 64 bit Ultimate.  The rest of your computer is great. smile.gif

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#6 xgtdec

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 03:19 PM

nope the patch did nothing at all....in fact the 3 things i bought this program to do have all failed
1. convert video files faster....failed
2.convert .flac to mp3 format.....failed.
3. do lightscribe labels....failed

Id this program any use at all?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

#7 Beerman

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (xgtdec @ Jan 23 2008, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nope the patch did nothing at all....in fact the 3 things i bought this program to do have all failed
1. convert video files faster....failed
2.convert .flac to mp3 format.....failed.
3. do lightscribe labels....failed

Id this program any use at all?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I can do all the those things.
1. Fast is relative.  What type of files are you converting, what are you converting to and what type of system are you using.  Conversion takes time---period.
2. Open up Sound Editor, add your flac file and right click it and choose Export and then choose mp3, choose where to export it to and then click Export.
3. I'm not a big fan of the label portion of Roxio nor do I use my LS that much but I've done a number of cd/dvd's with no problems at all.

Perhaps you can explain in more detail what you're doing and what errors or problems it's giving you.  And please include your system info.
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Posted 24 January 2008 - 04:01 AM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Jan 23 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps you can explain in more detail what you're doing and what errors or problems it's giving you.  And please include your system info.

Paul, note the first post... the system is described in reasonable detail there.
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Posted 24 January 2008 - 05:12 AM

QUOTE (d_deweywright @ Jan 24 2008, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Paul, note the first post... the system is described in reasonable detail there.

Thanks Dave.
That system should work just fine.  8GB of RAM!  Almost sounds like overkill.  Should be running professional encoders.
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Posted 24 January 2008 - 07:07 AM

QUOTE (Beerman @ Jan 24 2008, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Dave.
That system should work just fine.  8GB of RAM!  Almost sounds like overkill.  Should be running professional encoders.

I'd agree.  Too bad EMC doesn't take advantage of the Dual Cores, as far as we know.  But, as we both know, encoding is simply a processor intensive job, getting a particular package like EMC 10 to do the job faster wouldn't be what I'd expect.
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#11 xgtdec

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 08:09 AM

Thanks for the reply guys,

Ill try the .flac out later tonight...i got 3 albums on .flac and my creative zen just wont play it so i cant wait to do that.

The converting..well...i download an .AVI file and i wanna put it on a dvd.....it takes simply ages....now if this is how long it takes i can live with that...but with this machine i though it would be faster.

Lightscribe,,,,the labeler does not see my lightscribe drive.....not even after the above patch, now i have no scribe software as i formatted before a clean install,

Any Ideas?

#12 Jim_Hardin

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 08:37 AM

Lets do some reality checks with this…

The time needed to render a file is based on the LENGTH of play, CPU Speed and Encoder Rate! File size is a meaningless measure. Now, how long are these files you are 'downloading'?

RAM has absolutely nothing to do with time to Render! No matter if you have 512mb or 16gb, when you render you will be using about 300mb…

RAM does help you move about quickly within an editor, but does nothing while you render.

Core Duo, Quad Core are buzzwords thrown out to mask the lack of progress that has taken place over the last few years with CPUs.

LightScribe: Labeler treats it like a printer, tells 'printer' to print something… For it to work you have to have the required drivers, from LightScribe installed correctly and the firmware inside the drive up to date. Nothing Roxio can do about that.

There are some Tips & Tricks concerning it that you will want to look at:

EMC 10

EMC 9

Be sure to look at both locations.

It will be a very useful program to you after you get everything working!

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 09:15 AM

QUOTE (xgtdec @ Jan 24 2008, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the reply guys,

Ill try the .flac out later tonight...i got 3 albums on .flac and my creative zen just wont play it so i cant wait to do that.

The converting..well...i download an .AVI file and i wanna put it on a dvd.....it takes simply ages....now if this is how long it takes i can live with that...but with this machine i though it would be faster.

Lightscribe,,,,the labeler does not see my lightscribe drive.....not even after the above patch, now i have no scribe software as i formatted before a clean install,

Any Ideas?


If you didn't re-install the software, from LightScribe, you won't be able to use any software packages to burn a label.  Download and install the LightScribe software, from their site.

http://www.lightscribe.com/DownloadSection...dows/index.aspx
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Posted 24 January 2008 - 10:20 AM

QUOTE (xgtdec @ Jan 24 2008, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the reply guys,

Ill try the .flac out later tonight...i got 3 albums on .flac and my creative zen just wont play it so i cant wait to do that.

The converting..well...i download an .AVI file and i wanna put it on a dvd.....it takes simply ages....now if this is how long it takes i can live with that...but with this machine i though it would be faster.

Lightscribe,,,,the labeler does not see my lightscribe drive.....not even after the above patch, now i have no scribe software as i formatted before a clean install,

Any Ideas?

Define: "simply ages".  Twice the playback time?  Real-time?  On my machine, which is medieval compared to yours, I figure about 5 to 6 times the playback time to encode.  So, give us some actual figures to understand your words.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 04:35 AM

Well guys gain thank for the replies..its good to come to an active forum rather than waiting days to see if you may have got a reply.

Forgot to try the .flac but its on the agenda for tonight so ill keep you posted, The lightscribe is now sorted thanks to a samsung firmware update...my fault...i assumed if it could see the drive it can do the lightscribe.

And as for simply ages..well the movie was 2 hours 12 Minutes and the encode was one hour and 24 minutes,plus a few for the burn. its just i dont have a comparison so i thought id check it out with you guys to see if this was fast slow or what not.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 04:42 AM

QUOTE (xgtdec @ Jan 25 2008, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well guys gain thank for the replies..its good to come to an active forum rather than waiting days to see if you may have got a reply.

Forgot to try the .flac but its on the agenda for tonight so ill keep you posted, The lightscribe is now sorted thanks to a samsung firmware update...my fault...i assumed if it could see the drive it can do the lightscribe.

And as for simply ages..well the movie was 2 hours 12 Minutes and the encode was one hour and 24 minutes,plus a few for the burn. its just i dont have a comparison so i thought id check it out with you guys to see if this was fast slow or what not.

Okay... roughly 1/2 the playback time for encoding?  Wow!  That's extremely fast in my book.  Trust me, you've got quite the system going there, and I'd say it's performing very well.  smile.gif
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 05:39 AM

Cool...so now all we need are my .flacs...and emc 10 is money very very well spent

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE (xgtdec @ Jan 25 2008, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as for simply ages..well the movie was 2 hours 12 Minutes and the encode was one hour and 24 minutes,plus a few for the burn.
Yes, I agree that is a VERY fast encode time especially if the original was DV AVI.
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Posted 28 January 2008 - 07:41 AM

And the Flacs work perfectly...and even with a cool ..max volume before exporting button....

So thats it...i bought EMC10 and thaks to all your support i am now very happy with it

Cheers guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 01:20 AM

xqtdec. You been robbin' banks there to afford that kit. Either that or you're very rich?
I've come in late to this thread as my machine trashed a drive and as it was part of a raid setup. You know the rest ???
Backups? What backups..............dohh, I never learn.

Good to see another convert to emc10.
Encoding divx so it plays on a dvd is slower in emc10 than say vsoConvertXtoDVD but it does get the job done.

As stated earlier it's better to buy a divx DVD player and copy several films to one disc. Cost about £30 in the UK. You can afford it? smile.gif

I'm interested in how you're getting along with vista 64? I tried it but half my hardware didn't have drivers so back to 32bit

I must be one of the few people who actually like vista so hope they get a few areas sorted in sp:1

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