[Kimolaoha]

Hello all:
I hope that some of you might be able to help me with this problem.
While previous versions of EMC (7, 7.5 and 8) all burned Audio CDs that included CD-Text with no problems at all (i.e. my Burner is not the issue), I am finding it impossible to do so since my recent upgrade to EMC 10.
It makes no difference whether I burn using the Media Disc Creator application or the Easy Audio CD application -- CD-Text simply does not write.
In Media Disc Creator, I have obviously ensured that the "Add CD text" box in AudioCD Project Settings is checked.
I have done a Repair Installation through Add/Remove Programs. I have Uninstalled EMC10 through Add/Remove Programs and then re-Installed using the Installation Disc (I purchased the boxed retail version).
Nothing is solving the problem.
I note that the Uninstall that I did still left ALOT of Roxio "stuff" on the machine, including several of the apps.
Can any of you point me in the right direction, as I really want CD-Text to work?
I've searched the forums, and while others seem to have had a similar problem, there are no clear resolutions posted.
Thanks!!
Mike

[cdanteek]

Hello all:
I hope that some of you might be able to help me with this problem.
While previous versions of EMC (7, 7.5 and 8) all burned Audio CDs that included CD-Text with no problems at all (i.e. my Burner is not the issue), I am finding it impossible to do so since my recent upgrade to EMC 10.
It makes no difference whether I burn using the Media Disc Creator application or the Easy Audio CD application -- CD-Text simply does not write.
In Media Disc Creator, I have obviously ensured that the "Add CD text" box in AudioCD Project Settings is checked.
I have done a Repair Installation through Add/Remove Programs. I have Uninstalled EMC10 through Add/Remove Programs and then re-Installed using the Installation Disc (I purchased the boxed retail version).
Nothing is solving the problem.
I note that the Uninstall that I did still left ALOT of Roxio "stuff" on the machine, including several of the apps.
Can any of you point me in the right direction, as I really want CD-Text to work?
I've searched the forums, and while others seem to have had a similar problem, there are no clear resolutions posted.
Thanks!!
Mike

In Music Disc Creator EMC 10. Click the project settings up top under the Audio CD tool bar, right side, the Audio CD Project setting box opens. Make sure a check mark is in the Add CD Text Box...

cd

[malatekid]

In Music Disc Creator EMC 10. Click the project settings up top under the Audio CD tool bar, right side, the Audio CD Project setting box opens. Make sure a check mark is in the Add CD Text Box...

cd

Looks like Kimolaoha already did that.

It makes no difference whether I burn using the Media Disc Creator application or the Easy Audio CD application -- CD-Text simply does not write.
In Media Disc Creator, I have obviously ensured that the "Add CD text" box in AudioCD Project Settings is checked.
I have done a Repair Installation through Add/Remove Programs. I have Uninstalled EMC10 through Add/Remove Programs and then re-

This post has been edited by malatekid: 14 February 2008 - 08:15 AM

[lynn98109]

To read CD Text, it's necessary for the player to have that ability - are you playing these in the same player you were reading CD Text in before?

Lynn

[Kimolaoha]

To read CD Text, it's necessary for the player to have that ability - are you playing these in the same player you were reading CD Text in before?

Lynn

Yes, thanks for the reply.
Nothing has changed except for the replacement of EMC 8 with EMC 10.
CD-Text in discs that were burned with EMC 8 showed up, and still shows up, in my wife's car and in my standalone Philips burner (both of which can show CD-Text). Discs that are burned with EMC 10 do not display CD-Text in either of these players.
Something is definitely wrong.

[Kimolaoha]

Hello all:
I hope that some of you might be able to help me with this problem.
While previous versions of EMC (7, 7.5 and 8) all burned Audio CDs that included CD-Text with no problems at all (i.e. my Burner is not the issue), I am finding it impossible to do so since my recent upgrade to EMC 10.
It makes no difference whether I burn using the Media Disc Creator application or the Easy Audio CD application -- CD-Text simply does not write.
In Media Disc Creator, I have obviously ensured that the "Add CD text" box in AudioCD Project Settings is checked.
I have done a Repair Installation through Add/Remove Programs. I have Uninstalled EMC10 through Add/Remove Programs and then re-Installed using the Installation Disc (I purchased the boxed retail version).
Nothing is solving the problem.
I note that the Uninstall that I did still left ALOT of Roxio "stuff" on the machine, including several of the apps.
Can any of you point me in the right direction, as I really want CD-Text to work?
I've searched the forums, and while others seem to have had a similar problem, there are no clear resolutions posted.
Thanks!!
Mike

PROBLEM SOLVED!!! SOME PROGRESS -- BUT STILL TROUBLESHOOTING

While it may be in exceedingly bad taste to quote and reply to one's own post, you will perhaps forgive me if you find the following -- at some future time and place -- helpful in solving this niggling little problem should you have the misfortune to suffer through it.
Having tried everything I could think of, I did some more web research on the general topic of "CD-Text" and learned, among other things, that CD-Text will only write in the Disc at Once mode (vis-a-vis the Track at Once mode).
It so happens that , when you launch EMC 10, the "Welcome" page -- I think it may be called the Project Pane page -- displays in its bottom right hand corner an "Options" icon. When clicked, you can select "Data and Backup" and then there is a drop-down that has three options -- one of which is "Disc at Once (DAO), closed". For some reason, my selection was set at one of the two "Track at Once" options, and therefore, CD-Text simply would not write!!
Once Disk at Once was selected and accepted, it worked fine. You must, of course, ensure that the "Add CD text" box in the AudioCD Project Settings area of the Music Disc Creator application is checked.
Once the proper selections (DAO, and the check in the box) are made, it makes no difference whether you burn in the Music Disc Creator application or in the Easy Audio CD application -- CD-Text should write in both. I do hope this proves useful to someone in the future.

Update, following further troubleshooting and subsequent posts --Well, it appears that the DAO setting that I have changed above should actually make no difference in whether my discs burn with CD-Text or not -- but it does. I have now noticed that discs that are burned with the Easy Audio CD application DO burn with CD-Text, while those burned with the Music Disc Creator DO NOT. Go figure. Also, when tracks are added in the Easy Audio CD application, they invariably rearrange themselves such that the last track is moved to the front as Track 1, and I must manually move it back to the end to preserve the original album lineup (this also happened with my system in EMC 8).
So, currently, I can burn with CD-Text only through the Easy Audio CD application. Perhaps something is preventing my system from burning in DAO mode in the Music Disc Creator application?
As a side note, I see that the option in my iTunes 7 to burn CD-Text is grayed out -- presumably indicating that my burner does not have that capability. But, as stated above, the burner can and does burn CD-Text. Perhaps related?

This post has been edited by Kimolaoha: 15 February 2008 - 07:04 AM

[Brendon]

Kimolaoha,

It has always been the case that to write CD-text you have to have a drive which supports it; have it turned on in the software; and write your disc in DAO mode.

Thanks for pointing out that EMC 10's default is something other than DAO. You need to actually run the software before you can find out things like that.

Regards,
Brendon





edited after testing

This post has been edited by Brendon: 15 February 2008 - 01:28 AM

[cdanteek]

Kimolaoha,

It has always been the case that to write CD-text you have to have a drive which supports it; have it turned on in the software; and write your disc in DAO mode.

Thanks for pointing out that EMC 10's Sonic default is something other than DAO. You need to actually run the software before you can find out things like that.

Regards,
Brendon

In Music Disc Creator EMC 10. Click the project settings up top under the Audio CD tool bar, right side, the Audio CD Project setting box opens. Make sure a check mark is in the Add CD Text Box...

What is the default setting for Music Disc Creator, Audio CD Project?

cd

[ml]

What is the default setting for Music Disc Creator, Audio CD Project?

cd

If you go to the Audio Guide/ Options in the lower right hand corner, you have to go under the Data and Backup.

My default has never been changed, and it is Track at Once (TAO), Open. Mode 1, ISO+Joliet

This post has been edited by ml: 14 February 2008 - 10:02 PM

[Brendon]

Thanks cd for picking up this one, and thanks ML, too.

Kimolaoha, I'm not at all sure what's been happening on your system, but after cdanteek picked up on my comment I went and spent several hours testing this out with version 10.0 in XP-SP2.
I have burned many test discs, and have poked a sharp stick at everything I could think of, but I can't duplicate your problem.

The result of testing was, that with default settings both Easy Audio CD and Music Disc Creator wrote CD-Text every time. The only way I could stop CD-Text from being written was in Music Disc Creator when I unchecked the box in 'Project Settings' which says 'Add CD-Text'. I wrote two discs with that box unchecked, and both had no CD-Text written.

I am sure the CD-Text was written on the others, because I read the discs in the HACP player on a different system from the one I wrote them on, and used different music for each test. The results were constant over 12-15 discs I wrote, and I restarted the system several times during the tests. The two discs with no text stood out from the rest.

The "Data and Backup" part of the Options selector down at the bottom right corner of the Home application seems to deal only with the Sonic Data and Backup applications, and mine stayed at "Track at Once (TAO), open" [the default setting] just like ML's, throughout my tests. I couldn't make it alter any audio burning operations, and it had no effect on whether CD-Text was burned or not. It is a data disc setting.

As I said above, I'm not at all sure what's been happening on your system, but I don't think it was cured by changes in the Data and Backup options of the Sonic part of the suite.

Regards,
Brendon


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This post has been edited by Brendon: 15 February 2008 - 02:22 AM

[cdanteek]

Looks like Kimolaoha already did that.

This post has been edited by malatekid: Yesterday, 10:15 AM

He says he did, I knew better!

I don't advise on software I don't use, or things I haven't tried myself.

Thanks cd for picking up this one

Your welcome, Far South + EAST

cd

[Kimolaoha]

He says he did, I knew better!
cd

Hi cdanteek -
I'm not sure if you are suggesting that I did not ensure that the "Add CD text" box in Music Disc Creator's / AudioCD Project Settings (are they the same?) was checked, but if so, this is to reiterate that I absolutely did have it checked in the Music Disc Creator Project Settings. On the other hand, if you are suggesting that there is another default (besides the one under Data and Backup for DAO, etc.) that I need to check/change, then I plead ignorance and ask that you point it out.
As it turns out, I''ll be editing my post above as it appears that there is still something screwy going on.
Thanks for your help and input on this issue.

[cdanteek]

Hi cdanteek -
I'm not sure if you are suggesting that I did not ensure that the "Add CD text" box in Music Disc Creator's / AudioCD Project Settings (are they the same?) was checked, but if so, this is to reiterate that I absolutely did have it checked in the Music Disc Creator Project Settings. On the other hand, if you are suggesting that there is another default (besides the one under Data and Backup for DAO, etc.) that I need to check/change, then I plead ignorance and ask that you point it out.
As it turns out, I''ll be editing my post above as it appears that there is still something screwy going on.
Thanks for your help and input on this issue.

I need to know exactly what your doing and how you arrived at that point.
What files are you using to burn, are they on the hard drive? How did they get there and with what program? What tags are on the files?

cd

[Kimolaoha]

I have now edited my "Problem Solved" post to reflect more recent observations and developments.
Thanks all for your continued interest and help.
Mike

[Kimolaoha]

I need to know exactly what your doing and how you arrived at that point.
What files are you using to burn, are they on the hard drive? How did they get there and with what program? What tags are on the files?

cd

Thanks.
Please see my 'revised' post above, and here's some additional info.
With the very same system and the same internal burner, CD-Text worked just fine with EMC 7, 7.5 and 8. I upgraded to EMC 10 and noticed that CD-Text no longer worked (when I burned using the Easy Audio CD application). The tracks being added are .mp3 tracks imported from my iTunes library, previously ripped from a commercial CD. I am not sure which version of tags are on the files, but they were edited in iTunes and -- when CD-Text works for me -- they show up correctly.
As you can see from the above posts, I tried a repair installation and a full (but not a Clean) uninstall/reinstall and it made no difference. It was not until I changed the setting to DAO as described above that CD-Text wrote via the Easy Audio CD app, but it still will not write in the Music Disc Creator app. I am not keen on doing a Clean install, as the machine (a Dell) came preloaded with several Sonic/Roxio apps that I do not want to mess with. While I would like to get things "right" I suppose I can live with CD-Text only through Easy Audio CD -- but will then be precluded from using the editing capabilities of Music Disc Creator.
Any other thoughts, though, will be appreciated.

[cdanteek]

When you click options in Easy Audio CD from the Home screen, a Sonic application! The options window opens, you only have three options for Audio, Audio CD, Quick find, Rip music, they show up on the right side of the window when you click on them.

The only option to change TAO open, TAO closed, DAO, is in Data and Backup Options!

Audio CD's default to what Brendon said in post #7, if requirements are met!

Once we settle this and are on the same page, we can move on to Music Disc Creator.

cd

[Kimolaoha]

When you click options in Easy Audio CD from the Home screen, a Sonic application! The options window opens, you only have three options for Audio, Audio CD, Quick find, Rip music, they show up on the right side of the window when you click on them.

The only option to change TAO open, TAO closed, DAO, is in Data and Backup Options!

Audio CD's default to what Brendon said in post #7, if requirements are met!

Once we settle this and are on the same page, we can move on to Music Disc Creator.

cd

Thanks.
I'll have to look at this tonight when I get home to my machine, but I must admit (I'm a little thick) that I am not sure what I am supposed to be looking for here or what we are settling in Easy Audio CD so that we can get on the same page. What is the significance of your pointing out that Easy Audio CD is "a Sonic application!" When I click Options through Easy Audio CD from the home screen, what settings should I ensure have been made? (Sorry but it is hard to visualize without the actual application in front of me).
Again, I appreciate your help immensely.

[ml]

The only option to change TAO open, TAO closed, DAO, is in Data and Backup Options!

Once we settle this and are on the same page, we can move on to Music Disc Creator.

cd

That is true, but the title on the option button in the lower right hand corner changes depending on the application that you select.

It is possible that it changes the way that the cd is written for Music Disc Creator, but I'd have to do some testing to determine that and I just don't have time right now. Sorry.

It's also possible that the problem is linked to the fact that these are iTunes that are being burned.

This post has been edited by ml: 15 February 2008 - 08:33 AM

[Jim_Hardin]

It is just as cd has described it… You cannot write an Audio CD with EMC 10 unless it is as DOA.

[tbrewst]

I've been following this so I tried one in MDC.The only option that I see that relates to this is the box you check to write CD-Text.
As long as that box is checked then I,just like Brendon,get CD-Text.I can even see the text using WMP with the plugin to read it.I think it's like James and Brendon have said,when you use MDC to make an Audio cd it defaults to DAO.

This post has been edited by tbrewst: 15 February 2008 - 08:40 AM