I am converting old VHS movies to DVD by creating a 2-hour DVD on a set-top combo unit, then importing the video file to EMC 10. As suggested by Grandpabruce in an earlier post (Thanks, btw), I have been editing the files down to one hour in Videowave, and using the High Quality setting in MyDVD before burning. My question now has to do with reducing the original file to a smaller size. The only way I have figured out how to do this is by: 1) splitting the original file into scenes 2) creating a new (blank) Videowave production 3) copying the scenes from the original file in Storyline view 4) pasting the scenes into the new production. What seems to make this cumbersome is that when navigating back and forth between the original and new productions, Videowave has to close one file before it will open another. Is there a way to have multiple productions open simultaneously? Or is there an easier/better way to get where I think I'm going? Thanks.
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Splitting Dvd Into Smaller Movies
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, Feb 23 2008 10:44 AM
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 12:54 PM
Bring up the original Videowave production and save it as a new production (give it a new file name). You can now edit this new production without altering the original. Do the same steps as many times as needed.
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 07:43 PM
QUOTE (cogar @ Feb 23 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My question now has to do with reducing the original file to a smaller size. ...
Or is there an easier/better way to get where I think I'm going? Thanks.
Or is there an easier/better way to get where I think I'm going? Thanks.
In addition......
For example..... you have split that first file into 2 production and you want to recombine them into one edited file of a smaller size than the original.
With one of the productions in VideoWave, do a File \ Output As and pick Video File for DVD Playback ( or All ) MPEG2, Best quality, then Create Video File. Then render the file which will give you a standalone file that is a new movie.
Now you can put that new movie onto the storyboard in the second movie and do a the same File\ Output as.....
That will give you an edited and smaller file for that previously 2 hour movie. You can then delete the original movie and the first movie that you made.
Of course, if you have transitions, effects, or text, those will be permanent in the new video file. If you want a 'pristine' copy of the movie, remove those before you output the file.
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 06:10 PM
QUOTE (ml @ Feb 23 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In addition......
For example..... you have split that first file into 2 production and you want to recombine them into one edited file of a smaller size than the original.
With one of the productions in VideoWave, do a File \ Output As and pick Video File for DVD Playback ( or All ) MPEG2, Best quality, then Create Video File. Then render the file which will give you a standalone file that is a new movie.
Now you can put that new movie onto the storyboard in the second movie and do a the same File\ Output as.....
That will give you an edited and smaller file for that previously 2 hour movie. You can then delete the original movie and the first movie that you made.
Of course, if you have transitions, effects, or text, those will be permanent in the new video file. If you want a 'pristine' copy of the movie, remove those before you output the file.
For example..... you have split that first file into 2 production and you want to recombine them into one edited file of a smaller size than the original.
With one of the productions in VideoWave, do a File \ Output As and pick Video File for DVD Playback ( or All ) MPEG2, Best quality, then Create Video File. Then render the file which will give you a standalone file that is a new movie.
Now you can put that new movie onto the storyboard in the second movie and do a the same File\ Output as.....
That will give you an edited and smaller file for that previously 2 hour movie. You can then delete the original movie and the first movie that you made.
Of course, if you have transitions, effects, or text, those will be permanent in the new video file. If you want a 'pristine' copy of the movie, remove those before you output the file.
I don't mean to highjack this thread, but I have a question for you ml. Does the quality of a production reduce or stay the same with outputting a VW file as MPEG-2 Best Quality bringing it into MYDVD and authoring and then burning to ISO file versus bringing in a Videowave file directly into MYDVD and authoring and then burning to ISO file. Are these processes the same as far as quality is concerned?? I guess I am trying to figure out what the difference is between them??
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 06:30 PM
QUOTE (RCD74 @ Feb 25 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't mean to highjack this thread, but I have a question for you ml. Does the quality of a production reduce or stay the same with outputting a VW file as MPEG-2 Best Quality bringing it into MYDVD and authoring and then burning to ISO file versus bringing in a Videowave file directly into MYDVD and authoring and then burning to ISO file. Are these processes the same as far as quality is concerned?? I guess I am trying to figure out what the difference is between them??
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There's no difference as far as quality is concerned if you pick the Highest Quality in all steps.
There's no reason to output the files as MPEG2 Best Quality unless you're interested in storing the cut video as smaller files and deleting the original video. For productions that I'm currently working on, I just bring the VideoWave file into MYDVD.
I also output some footage because I want to store the edited video for future use in productions and I quickly run out of room to store all my original dv avi or mpeg2 files. Once I've edited out all the 'sky and feet' and other footage that I'm never going to use, I output it as an mpeg2 file for storage. Some irreplaceable family videos, I output as DV AVI to keep the original quality.
Edited by ml, 25 February 2008 - 06:34 PM.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:19 AM
QUOTE (ml @ Feb 25 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's no difference as far as quality is concerned if you pick the Highest Quality in all steps.
There's no reason to output the files as MPEG2 Best Quality unless you're interested in storing the cut video as smaller files and deleting the original video. For productions that I'm currently working on, I just bring the VideoWave file into MYDVD.
I also output some footage because I want to store the edited video for future use in productions and I quickly run out of room to store all my original dv avi or mpeg2 files. Once I've edited out all the 'sky and feet' and other footage that I'm never going to use, I output it as an mpeg2 file for storage. Some irreplaceable family videos, I output as DV AVI to keep the original quality.
There's no reason to output the files as MPEG2 Best Quality unless you're interested in storing the cut video as smaller files and deleting the original video. For productions that I'm currently working on, I just bring the VideoWave file into MYDVD.
I also output some footage because I want to store the edited video for future use in productions and I quickly run out of room to store all my original dv avi or mpeg2 files. Once I've edited out all the 'sky and feet' and other footage that I'm never going to use, I output it as an mpeg2 file for storage. Some irreplaceable family videos, I output as DV AVI to keep the original quality.
Ok, I get it! Here is my small dilemma. The other day I created a VW file and brought it into Mydvd to add menus. During the burning process (to ISO) I got that dreaded error message "800....... error encoding menu". I have NEVER seen this message before, although I am using my new computer. I have outputted many a vw productions on this computer without getting that error message and I have also 1 other time brought a VW file into MYdvd, created a menu, and then burned without receiving this message. The strange part was that the message appeared and it said the file was 100% complete. Then when I went to open the ISO file it said it was a data dvd and not a video dvd and I couldn't view it in a virtual drive b/c it said it was corrupt. Anyway, I am just hoping this might have been a fluke!!
Regardless, I read on these boards that burning in software render would help this problem. So with the same vw file and menus in mydvd, I used software and it burned just fine. Soooooo, I love my 3-d transitions and don't want to give them up, so I was thinking that if I output first as an mpeg-2 best quality in hardware, and then if I want menus, use software and burn in MyDvd, I will salvage my 3-d transitions, yet burn with menus and no problems. Otherwise, won't my transitions be lost if I bring in the VW file into mydvd and choose software?? I know this must sound so confusing! Thanks for your insight though!
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Not confusing and you seem to have a grasp on it. You are correct. You should be able to render in VW10 using hardware and then take that file into MyDVD and render the menus using 'software'. The 3D transitions are already render so MyDVD will have no affect on the already rendered MPEG 2 file.
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 09:47 AM
QUOTE (ggrussell @ Feb 26 2008, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not confusing and you seem to have a grasp on it. You are correct. You should be able to render in VW10 using hardware and then take that file into MyDVD and render the menus using 'software'. The 3D transitions are already render so MyDVD will have no affect on the already rendered MPEG 2 file.
Thanks Gary. I did assume correctly that the 3-d options would disappear if bringing my vw file into mydvd and doing software render then, huh?? I am really hoping that the error on encoding menu I received was just a fluke, however, if it isn't and persists, then I will render as MPEG-2 best quality and then burn in mydvd on software render. Thanks for confirming what I thought I knew!! I can't stress enough how much I have learned from all of you people!!
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Learn from others (our) mistakes - 
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:27 PM
QUOTE (ggrussell @ Feb 26 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Learn from others (our) mistakes -
Nope - you all are perfect!!
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Posted 26 February 2008 - 02:22 PM
QUOTE (RCD74 @ Feb 26 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope - you all are perfect!!
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LOL....
I think he meant that y'all are getting the benefit of the mistakes we've made while trying to use the programs.
Speaking personally, I've scratched my head many a night trying to figure out how to use the features of the programs.
So we hang around here hoping that we can help to keep others from burning the midnight oil while trying to figure out how to accomplish tasks.
Plus I learn things that I didn't know were possible from others in this forum.
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