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[us246553]

I am totally frustrated in trying to get my dvd to burn properly. My Gateway gt5012 is only a few months old. It has a dual core processor - 2.8 GHz per channel. It has a pentium D @ operating system is windows XP  media center addition. . I added 2 gigs of DDR2 ram. The Samsung ts-h552b burners firmware was upgraded from ga04 to current ts04. I downloaded the driver win2k_xp141950 for the intel82945G express chipset family. I've downloaded the hotfix for error in encoding menu. I have downloaded the 8.05 update. I have also run a defrag.

I have tried burning after adding each of these changes. I witness the missing files being encoded, but it skips in the same place in each of the chapters.
I have heard it is a good idea to slow down the burn rate, but I see no way to do this.  In a given chapter, it almost feels like there's a glitch to an image, that it skipsover several images (added audio also stops in the middle of a song).

All thoughts would be welcome. I have spent an outrageous amount of time fumbli9ng through many of these fixes -with computer freezing up and losing changes.

Tom Butler

[grandpabruce]

us246553, on Mar 26 2006, 09:24 PM, said:

I am totally frustrated in trying to get my dvd to burn properly. My Gateway gt5012 is only a few months old. It has a dual core processor - 2.8 GHz per channel. It has a pentium D @ operating system is windows XP  media center addition. . I added 2 gigs of DDR2 ram. The Samsung ts-h552b burners firmware was upgraded from ga04 to current ts04. I downloaded the driver win2k_xp141950 for the intel82945G express chipset family. I've downloaded the hotfix for error in encoding menu. I have downloaded the 8.05 update. I have also run a defrag.

I have tried burning after adding each of these changes. I witness the missing files being encoded, but it skips in the same place in each of the chapters.
I have heard it is a good idea to slow down the burn rate, but I see no way to do this.  In a given chapter, it almost feels like there's a glitch to an image, that it skipsover several images (added audio also stops in the middle of a song).

All thoughts would be welcome. I have spent an outrageous amount of time fumbli9ng through many of these fixes -with computer freezing up and losing changes.

Tom Butler

Burn to an ISO file first, and then to a DVD, using Disc Copier.  In MyDVD, uncheck the option to burn to DVD, first.

[us246553]

Sorry, in that I am somewhat computer challenged - but exactly how do you "burn to an iso file first" (Is this in video wave or my dvd?) I guess step by step instructions.

[grandpabruce]

us246553, on Mar 27 2006, 10:53 AM, said:

Sorry, in that I am somewhat computer challenged - but exactly how do you "burn to an iso file first" (Is this in video wave or my dvd?) I guess step by step instructions.

In MyDVD, when you click on the burn button, uncheck the Burn to DVD, and check the Burn to Image File.  Make sure than you name that ISO file some name that you remember, and save it in a folder that you can find, too.

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[us246553]

Thanks for your time in responding. Unfortunately, burning to an iso file and then to DVD did not solve the huge skips. There is a discrepency between the  size of iso file 170,000MB and what is shown during burning - under 700MB.

Do you think I need to uninstall and reinstall, as well as reloading all the images from the original files. I have spend half of infinity reordering these images, changing things like brightness, cropping, etc.

I'd really hate to start completely over, but nothing I've tried works.

Anybody with ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Butler

[grandpabruce]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 08:53 AM, said:

Thanks for your time in responding. Unfortunately, burning to an iso file and then to DVD did not solve the huge skips. There is a discrepency between the  size of iso file 170,000MB and what is shown during burning - under 700MB.

Do you think I need to uninstall and reinstall, as well as reloading all the images from the original files. I have spend half of infinity reordering these images, changing things like brightness, cropping, etc.

I'd really hate to start completely over, but nothing I've tried works.

Anybody with ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Butler

I would do some test burns on RW media.  Where the DVD starts skipping, pull that part of the production out, burn to ISO, then to DVD.  If all is ok, then there may be something wrong with the image or movie that you took out.

It could also be a transition that is causing the skips, but the only way to find out is trial and error.

[ggrussell]

We have seen some strange things with the video chipsets on motherboards.  Have you done the graphics test? Does it default to software?   You have a very nice machine, but I fear you really need a good video card for it.

[michael18611]

I would ask myself why my ISO is 170,000mb and yet my finished product is only 700mb (the size of a CD) Are you trying to save a project that big to one CD?  Kinda confusing to say the least, and I have never had alot of luck with on-board video, I always recommend that everyone have an actual video card.

[us246553]

I wouldn't mind investing in a very good video card if that would do the trick. Any recommendations?Brands, specs,etc. Compatibility issues?
I remember doing some type of graphics test somewhere in that program, and the test patterns seemed fine to me - butI'm not really sure what I was looking for. I'll try to find it again and see if there's some default designation.

Do you think I need to uninstall and reinstall. Do I need to start over with assembling this project from scratch? Is there a limit to the number of Images you can put in a chapter. A couple of the chapters have 500 - 650 images. If so, I'd loose a months work, but Creator 8 is doing me no good in its current state.

Hey Gary, thanks for taking the time to think about this problem and to respond.

Tom Butler

[grandpabruce]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 03:36 PM, said:

I wouldn't mind investing in a very good video card if that would do the trick. Any recommendations?Brands, specs,etc. Compatibility issues?
I remember doing some type of graphics test somewhere in that program, and the test patterns seemed fine to me - butI'm not really sure what I was looking for. I'll try to find it again and see if there's some default designation.

Do you think I need to uninstall and reinstall. Do I need to start over with assembling this project from scratch? Is there a limit to the number of Images you can put in a chapter. A couple of the chapters have 500 - 650 images. If so, I'd loose a months work, but Creator 8 is doing me no good in its current state.

Hey Gary, thanks for taking the time to think about this problem and to respond.

Tom Butler

Have you tried the burned DVD in a set top DVD player (DVD player connected to your television) to see if the skips are still happening?  Have you tried a different brand of media?

[myguggi]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 04:36 PM, said:

I wouldn't mind investing in a very good video card if that would do the trick. Any recommendations?Brands, specs,etc. Compatibility issues?
I remember doing some type of graphics test somewhere in that program, and the test patterns seemed fine to me - butI'm not really sure what I was looking for. I'll try to find it again and see if there's some default designation.

Do you think I need to uninstall and reinstall. Do I need to start over with assembling this project from scratch? Is there a limit to the number of Images you can put in a chapter. A couple of the chapters have 500 - 650 images. If so, I'd loose a months work, but Creator 8 is doing me no good in its current state.

Hey Gary, thanks for taking the time to think about this problem and to respond.

Tom Butler

I don't think you ever really explained what kind of project you are working. You do say you have several chapter containing 500-600 images each. Are these photos? Are you creating a slideshow?
If those are photos then that is were your problem may lie. In only 2 chapter you would have at least 1000 photos and showing each photo for only 3 seconds would create a slideshow of about 50 minutes. Adding other chapters you will propably easily be over 60 minutes. A normal 4.7GB DVD will only hold about 60 minutes of video at best quality. To get get more you have to select lower quality in your settings which you actually do not want to doif you are creating a slideshow.
Perhaps you had better explain what you are trying to do and what you are doing. Those files sizes you posted don't make any sense.

Edited by myguggi, 28 March 2006 - 02:39 PM.

[us246553]

Yes, That is where I check out the final burn  - on a DVD connected to my TV. The skips are definitely there. And also in the same places. I tried deleting the image where it skips. and it starts skiping from the previous image. When I burned to an iso file, I was able to slow the burn rate, but it still skipped in the same place. Seems to me that if the media was bad, the skipping would be more random. But I'll try anything.

[grandpabruce]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 04:36 PM, said:

Yes, That is where I check out the final burn  - on a DVD connected to my TV. The skips are definitely there. And also in the same places. I tried deleting the image where it skips. and it starts skiping from the previous image. When I burned to an iso file, I was able to slow the burn rate, but it still skipped in the same place. Seems to me that if the media was bad, the skipping would be more random. But I'll try anything.

Keep backing up to see if the previous one skips.  It could be something to do with how you cropped, etc., but I don't know.  I would use PhotoSuite, or some other software, to crop or lighten the photos.

[mschell10]

Aloha   --

It may be the picture After that is causing the problem, worth a try.

[us246553]

I may have these replies out of order, but here's more info. I am doing a photo slideshow project with 7 chapters. The ISO file shows size of 763,000KB (sorry I previously stated MB!!) The file I saved with a roxio icon says 16,000 KB.
In the preview mode showing six of the seven chapters, it says the estimated size is 549 MB (4151free). The 1st chapter has 113 images, 1 audio file saved in the video CD high resolution mode. All chapters are saved as such. The 2nd chapter has 160 images, 2 audio files. The third has 195 images, 2 audio files. The 4th has 440 images, 5 audio files. The 5th has 665 images 5 audio files. This chapter has a huge skip when played back through DVD player and TV. There are no skips in the preview mode in My DVD. The audio is about 20 min, and the duration of the chapter is 30 min. I think this was saved in the fit to audio mode. The 6th has 468 images, 4 audio files. The last has 479 images and 4 audio files. I know there are big skips in other chapters,too.
I know this sounds like an outrageous amount of files, but if the iso file says 763,000KB and the preview screen in My DVD says est. size 549 MB (4151 free), isn't there a ton of room left?  On the other hand, if a 4.7 GB holds only ~ 60 minutes, I can see why there's too many total files in this project. Obviously, I'm confused.
If a better video card is the answer, what's the best out there, and what kind of specs do I ask for?

Again, I appreciate anyone who takes the time to consider this problem and respond.

Thanks, Tom Butler

[grandpabruce]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 08:47 PM, said:

I may have these replies out of order, but here's more info. I am doing a photo slideshow project with 7 chapters. The ISO file shows size of 763,000KB (sorry I previously stated MB!!) The file I saved with a roxio icon says 16,000 KB.
In the preview mode showing six of the seven chapters, it says the estimated size is 549 MB (4151free). The 1st chapter has 113 images, 1 audio file saved in the video CD high resolution mode. All chapters are saved as such. The 2nd chapter has 160 images, 2 audio files. The third has 195 images, 2 audio files. The 4th has 440 images, 5 audio files. The 5th has 665 images 5 audio files. This chapter has a huge skip when played back through DVD player and TV. There are no skips in the preview mode in My DVD. The audio is about 20 min, and the duration of the chapter is 30 min. I think this was saved in the fit to audio mode. The 6th has 468 images, 4 audio files. The last has 479 images and 4 audio files. I know there are big skips in other chapters,too.
I know this sounds like an outrageous amount of files, but if the iso file says 763,000KB and the preview screen in My DVD says est. size 549 MB (4151 free), isn't there a ton of room left?  On the other hand, if a 4.7 GB holds only ~ 60 minutes, I can see why there's too many total files in this project. Obviously, I'm confused.
If a better video card is the answer, what's the best out there, and what kind of specs do I ask for?

Again, I appreciate anyone who takes the time to consider this problem and respond.

Thanks, Tom Butler

When you save that file in VideoWave, the file that is saved is not a movie.  It is only a set of instructions on what the software will do with your production.

Basically, don't pay much attention to the size of your production.  Pay attention to the length of time of that production.  Are you pushing the 1 hour limit on yours?

[myguggi]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 09:47 PM, said:

I may have these replies out of order, but here's more info. I am doing a photo slideshow project with 7 chapters. The ISO file shows size of 763,000KB (sorry I previously stated MB!!) The file I saved with a roxio icon says 16,000 KB.
In the preview mode showing six of the seven chapters, it says the estimated size is 549 MB (4151free). The 1st chapter has 113 images, 1 audio file saved in the video CD high resolution mode. All chapters are saved as such. The 2nd chapter has 160 images, 2 audio files. The third has 195 images, 2 audio files. The 4th has 440 images, 5 audio files. The 5th has 665 images 5 audio files. This chapter has a huge skip when played back through DVD player and TV. There are no skips in the preview mode in My DVD. The audio is about 20 min, and the duration of the chapter is 30 min. I think this was saved in the fit to audio mode. The 6th has 468 images, 4 audio files. The last has 479 images and 4 audio files. I know there are big skips in other chapters,too.
I know this sounds like an outrageous amount of files, but if the iso file says 763,000KB and the preview screen in My DVD says est. size 549 MB (4151 free), isn't there a ton of room left?  On the other hand, if a 4.7 GB holds only ~ 60 minutes, I can see why there's too many total files in this project. Obviously, I'm confused.
If a better video card is the answer, what's the best out there, and what kind of specs do I ask for?

Again, I appreciate anyone who takes the time to consider this problem and respond.

Thanks, Tom Butler

You are trying to create a slideshow with 2520 slides! Even at lowest quality a 120 minute slideshow would only allow an average of <3 secs a picture, at best quality the pictures would zip by every 1.5 secs. Nobody will watch that. Remember you have no next/previous control of your slideshow you can only pause.

I also don't understand some of the things you are posting:

"saved in the video CD high resolution mode"  I thought you were creating a DVD slideshow?
Are you saving each slideshow as a separate project in Videowave? What is the length of each chapter (EMC 8 actually calls these Titles)?

A better video card will not help at this point if at all.

[ggrussell]

us246553, on Mar 28 2006, 09:47 PM, said:

The 1st chapter has 113 images, 1 audio file saved in the video CD high resolution mode. All chapters are saved as such.

Not sure if things are more confusing or not.  Sounds like you are using Videowave to create your slideshow and then OUTPUT TO FILE as a Video CD MPEG1 file.  These files must be re-rendered to MPEG 2.  Even if they did render without skipping, the quality certainly would be what it could be.

I think you need to start over. If the slideshows are already in Videowave project files, then just launch MyDVD, set the project settings to DVD and add the Videowave project files.  MyDVD will then properly render the images for the DVD. As Walt mentioned, there will probably be too many photos so you will have to have fewer slideshows on one DVD.

Edited by ggrussell, 28 March 2006 - 08:48 PM.

[us246553]

Actually, I am not using video wave at all. I loaded all these images in The slideshow assistant in my DVD.
High resolution is one of the options (no pan and zoom or special effects.) to choose from in changing from image to image. There is no video in this project - only single images from a digital camera.

[ggrussell]

Ah... So to be clear.  You have chosen a DVD PROJECT. You add a slideshow using the wizard and then chose the Video CD High Resolution TRANSITION option.  Did you use this on all the slideshows or just on the ones that skip?  

I've never tried that transition before.  I'll see if I can duplicate the problem later this evening.