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#1 Finnius

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 09:07 AM

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Vista U32 SP1/Creator 10 Suite

Strangely, when buring a dvd (whether it be a data disk or video fileset or .iso) I only seem to get about 8speed on my 16speed burner

when using Nero or ConvertX, i get up to full 16speed, but not so on EMC.
Drivers for dvd player/burner up to date
I have "Max" speed selected for both CD and DVD in options

can post limited dxdiag (relevant to issue) if needed.  

Thanks in advance


#2 cdanteek

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 09:54 AM

The software reads the media ID (MID) from the disc, then looks at the firmware for the (MID) and write speeds for that disc.  I have Nero and Roxio EMC 10 and both read the same from the same drive and the same disc! Is that what you doing?  

In Nero open tools, CDDVDSpeed (new version renamed DiscSpeed)
Tell me your drive ID and firmware up top (mine BenQ) exactly like it shows. Then the MID and write speeds, see below..

BENQ____DVD_DD_DW1640_BSRB_29_May_2008_12_43.png

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My Computer Specs click show.
Spoiler

1.Click here   Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site  dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.  
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed    
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)    
13.Click here  Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista  
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
  17. Click here Finding Your Computer Specs And Roxio Software Version Number.

#3 Finnius

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ May 29 2008, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The software reads the media ID (MID) from the disc, then looks at the firmware for the (MID) and write speeds for that disc.  I have Nero and Roxio EMC 10 and both read the same from the same drive and the same disc! Is that what you doing?  

In Nero open tools, CDDVDSpeed (new version renamed DiscSpeed)
Tell me your drive ID and firmware up top (mine BenQ) exactly like it shows. Then the MID and write speeds, see below..

BENQ____DVD_DD_DW1640_BSRB_29_May_2008_12_43.png

cd


meh, i uninstalled Nero because i was happier with EMC..lol..but here is a truncated Everest report: (hope it is sufficient)

[ LG DVD-ROM DRD8160B ATA Device ]

    Optical Drive Properties:
      Device Description                                LG DVD-ROM DRD8160B ATA Device
      Manufacturer                                      LG
      Device Type                                       DVD-ROM

    Reading Speeds:
      DVD-ROM                                           16x
      CD-ROM                                            48x

    Device Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      LG Electronics
      Product Information                               http://www.lge.com/catalog/proddivergent?c...ryId=CTG1000500
      Firmware Download                                 http://www.lge.com/support/software.jsp



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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:22 AM

Download #1 in my signature, same program I talked about above. Save it to a folder on the harddrive and click the .exe run to open the program. Place a DVD in the drive now what is the information I asked above?

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My Computer Specs click show.
Spoiler

1.Click here   Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site  dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.  
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed    
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)    
13.Click here  Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista  
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
  17. Click here Finding Your Computer Specs And Roxio Software Version Number.

#5 Finnius

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:28 AM

sorry i gave you the wrong drive last time..here it is

1:0 TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D SB00

Nero DiscSpeed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type:       : DVD+R
Book Type        : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer:    : Daxon
MID              : DAXON AZ3 000 (00h)
Write speeds:    : 2.4 X - 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
Layers           : 1
Write strategies : 4 X
Disc Status      : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 16 99 4F 00 00 00 00 - ...........O....
0010 - 00 00 07 44 41 58 4F 4E 00 00 00 41 5A 33 00 38 - ...DAXON...AZ3.8
0020 - 23 54 37 14 00 23 6F 00 7D 6A 17 19 0C 0C 0A 0B - #T7..#o.}j......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 00 20 5F 24 0B 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 - ..88.._$..#.....
0050 - 00 00 00 20 5F 24 0B 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00 - ...._$..#.......

Edited by Finnius, 29 May 2008 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:49 AM

There is a firmware update on the Samsung site SB07 for your drive, seems you have never updated it and it's a older drive? Is this a bought installed drive or a OEM came with the PC drive? Samsung Site, click here. I can't link directly to the update your going to have to navigate to it.

Get better media Daxon is landfill material. Try some Verbatim local in the US or online order
Taiyo Yuden Premium Line, click here...

cd
cd
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My Computer Specs click show.
Spoiler

1.Click here   Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site  dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.  
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed    
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)    
13.Click here  Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista  
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
  17. Click here Finding Your Computer Specs And Roxio Software Version Number.

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ May 29 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Get better media Daxon is landfill material.

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Add'l HD 1.5TB WD 7K 64M;   Videocard: VGA ASUS GTX460;   DVD BURNER 1: BLU-RAY BURNER LG;  DVD BURNER 2: ASUS DRW-24B3LT;   CPU COOL ZALMAN

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#8 Finnius

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ May 29 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a firmware update on the Samsung site SB07 for your drive, seems you have never updated it and it's a older drive? Is this a bought installed drive or a OEM came with the PC drive? Samsung Site, click here. I can't link directly to the update your going to have to navigate to it.

Get better media Daxon is landfill material. Try some Verbatim local in the US or online order
Taiyo Yuden Premium Line, click here...

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i'll get the new drivers...as for my blanks...they are not DAXON..they are Memorex +R ( and memorex +R DL)

actually, while i've got you here, i have another question...it may be offtopic, but here goes:

When i am doing conversions of mkv files (HD or Blu ray) i have been using ConvertX...my question is can EMC do a conversion of a file that is Pal AND hd/blu ray)

i assume that EMC can handle containers like mkv or avi...but if it's PAL (i convert to NTSC) ..i have been using ConvertX...

I want to use EMC (like it better)...

Edited by Finnius, 29 May 2008 - 11:59 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2008 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Finnius @ May 29 2008, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'll get the new drivers...as for my blanks...they are not DAXON..they are Memorex +R ( and memorex +R DL)



That is why I asked you to download the disc identifier tool "Manufacturer: : Daxon
MID : DAXON AZ3 000 (00h)" from your post above!

See most don't make media they buy it from the cheapest bidder and put there name on it, do you see the light now?

Go with the media above I posted about, you will quit having media problems.

cd
cd
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My Computer Specs click show.
Spoiler

1.Click here   Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site  dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.  
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed    
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)    
13.Click here  Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista  
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
  17. Click here Finding Your Computer Specs And Roxio Software Version Number.

#10 Finnius

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (cdanteek @ May 29 2008, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is why I asked you to download the disc identifier tool "Manufacturer: : Daxon
MID : DAXON AZ3 000 (00h)" from your post above!

See most don't make media they buy it from the cheapest bidder and put there name on it, do you see the light now?

Go with the media above I posted about, you will quit having media problems.

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gotcha, i have been using memorex for years (the name)...just assumed they would be better quality than TDK or Verbatim

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 12:07 PM

The Memorex I have seen in the US Midwest, are Ritek made media, both single and DL. Where are you buying Memorex/Daxon media?

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My Computer Specs click show.
Spoiler

1.Click here   Beginners Guide - Blank DVD Media Type Definitions & What A Firmware Upgrade Is for Your Burner.
2.Click here Firmware HQ - site  dedicated to providing you with the latest firmware releases for your optical disc drives.  
3.Click here CD-DVD Speed    
4.Click here CD-DVD Speed - A user guide
5.Click here Enabling/Checking DMA in Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 9x.
6.Click hereYou can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive.
7.click here Drive Not Recognized By Roxio, PX Engine 3_00_58a. Old Version<-> EMC 7.5 Up  PX Engine 4.18.16a. Update .Click here
8.Click here  How to uninstall IE 7 and WMP 11.
9.Click here ImgBurn Current version: 2.5.3.0 (5,262 KB)  CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application
10.Click here InfoTool  (Drive, Disk, Configuration, Software, Hardware, DMA settings, etc.).
11.Click here.   Complete Uninstall of Creator 2011 & Creator 2012
12.Click here. Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows Vista and 7)    
13.Click here  Complete Uninstall of Creator 2009 and 2010 (Windows XP)
14.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 9 & 10 on Windows Vista  
15.Click here Complete Uninstall of Easy Media Creator 7.5,  8, 9, & 10 on Windows XP
16. Click here WinZip Data Compression Utility <>  Click here WinRAR Data Compression Utility   Click here 7-Zip Data Compression Utility
  17. Click here Finding Your Computer Specs And Roxio Software Version Number.

#12 Finnius

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 12:19 PM

mostly from radio shack/or staples (whoever has a sale that week)

ok updated...strange that i didn't get a message after the reboot...ah well...hopefully this is resolved..i'll do a check today on speed.




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