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Project Too Big For Blu-ray Dual Layer 50gb

#1 User is offline   Geert eer 

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 07:39 AM

DVDit Pro 6.4 - Project blu-ray dual layer 50GB

After transcoding for 20 hours I get the message:
Project is too big: Retry - Cancel

At the bottom left of the screen: 5,31 GB remaining.
Original movies are in HDV 1440x1080i PAL
Video encoding CBR 25000 kbps
Audio Dolby digital 384 kbps
Burning: writing volume to hard disc
All the files together in the temporary storage directories are 40.5 GB (43,548,150,688 bytes)
I have 749 GB free space on my hard disc.

How can I solve this?
Thanks in advance
Geert Geerits

This post has been edited by Geert eer: 19 June 2008 - 07:40 AM

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#2 User is offline   SS Scott 

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:10 AM

not sure why you are seeing that. why don't you replace the assets in this project with the ones in the temp directory and burn again. should be no transcoding, so should be much quicker. next time it might best to output a volume or an image first and then burn from that.
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Posted 19 June 2008 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 19 2008, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not sure why you are seeing that. why don't you replace the assets in this project with the ones in the temp directory and burn again. should be no transcoding, so should be much quicker. next time it might best to output a volume or an image first and then burn from that.


I did replace the assets in the project,
I did the output to a volume and an image.
But I get the same message: Project size is too big.
This happens when de program is creating links.
I have an other blu-ray dual layer project with 15.33 GB remaining, this is burning just fine.
So there must be a sort of bug in the program.
Hope this can be solved.
When it is solved can you mail me the update?

Thanks in advance,
Geert Geerits
ggeerits@hotmail.com

This post has been edited by Geert eer: 19 June 2008 - 10:56 PM

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 06:28 AM

so how big did the project with 15.33 GB left in the budget estimator wind up being on disc? and how big is the resulting image that you tried to burn to BD-50 disc which would not fit?
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 06:55 AM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 20 2008, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so how big did the project with 15.33 GB left in the budget estimator wind up being on disc? and how big is the resulting image that you tried to burn to BD-50 disc which would not fit?


Hi Scott,

Thanks for your answer.

The project with 15.33 GB left, the resulting volume is 33 GB (35,497,362,940 bytes).
After that, I burned the volume with CyberLink Power2Go and the Sony BWU-200S burner to a 50 GB Blu-Ray dual-layer disk from Sony.
It plays verry well on my Playstation 3.

For the project that was too big, the image was never maded, after the message "too big" the making of the image was canceled.

Geert Geerits

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:32 AM

Geert, I need to understand your process better...

sounds like the first time you tried to output a disc and got a failure. the second and third time you tried to output a volume and image and got a failure? so then that would have nothing to do with space on disc, just with ability to create the larger volume or image on your hard drive. So you have a huge hard drive. are there any limitations to how much can be written to your temp directory?
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:50 AM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 20 2008, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Geert, I need to understand your process better...


sounds like the first time you tried to output a disc and got a failure.
Not correct, I never output to a disc, I always output to a volume, so that I can test it first.

the second and third time you tried to output a volume and image and got a failure?
Correct

so then that would have nothing to do with space on disc, just with ability to create the larger volume or image on your hard drive.
So you have a huge hard drive.
Correct: I have 3x1TB hard drives (C: 388GB free - N: 749GB free - M: 255GB free)
all NTFS formatted.
drive M and N are external eSATA drives.

are there any limitations to how much can be written to your temp directory?
No, there are no limitations, my temp directory is on C:
I output the volume to drive N:

Geert Geerits

This post has been edited by Geert eer: 20 June 2008 - 09:06 AM

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 08:14 AM


Geert, please keep us up to date on this project when you do find the solution.


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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:05 AM

and if you temporarily change your temp directory over to Drive N and output both the project and temp directory on the 749gb drive do you still have the issue?
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 20 2008, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and if you temporarily change your temp directory over to Drive N and output both the project and temp directory on the 749gb drive do you still have the issue?


Hi Scott,

I changed the temp directory to drive N, the output also to N.
Same problem.
I got the message 'Project size too big' when the burning window showed: 'writing volume'.

Geert Geerits


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Posted 20 June 2008 - 02:23 PM

hmmf. odd. I don't have a huge asset lying around to test with so I took a 2.7 GB MPEG-2 file and dragged it into the titles section enough times until there was 5.49 GB of space shown as available (out of 50GB) on the estimator. I put my temp directory and project directory on a drive with 395 GB available and it is chugging away at making a 50GB BD-RE image. I have no menus in this project. You said your process stops at "creating links". mine has cruised past that point. do you have a lot of motion menus in your project? do you have a big slideshow? could be very likely that we might underestimate those.
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 08:53 PM

Where does one download an update to V6.4? The V6.3 I have does not support dual-layer BD.

I have asked about how to obtain updates in a separate thread that's still on the first page, and despite 167 reads, there hasn't been one response.
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:04 PM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 20 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmmf. odd. I don't have a huge asset lying around to test with so I took a 2.7 GB MPEG-2 file and dragged it into the titles section enough times until there was 5.49 GB of space shown as available (out of 50GB) on the estimator. I put my temp directory and project directory on a drive with 395 GB available and it is chugging away at making a 50GB BD-RE image. I have no menus in this project. You said your process stops at "creating links". mine has cruised past that point. do you have a lot of motion menus in your project? do you have a big slideshow? could be very likely that we might underestimate those.


I have 1 main menu with 3 submenus.
The first and second submenu has each 6 links, the third submenu has 3 links.
All four menus are motion menus.
Last night I burned a volume to a DVD dual layer from the same project, no problems here.
Next week, I'm going to rebuild the project from scratch and see wath happens.
I'll keep you informed.
Geert Geerits


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Posted 23 June 2008 - 04:30 AM

QUOTE (Geert eer @ Jun 20 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have 1 main menu with 3 submenus.
The first and second submenu has each 6 links, the third submenu has 3 links.
All four menus are motion menus.
Last night I burned a volume to a DVD dual layer from the same project, no problems here.
Next week, I'm going to rebuild the project from scratch and see wath happens.
I'll keep you informed.
Geert Geerits


After rebuilding and rerendering the project I got the same message:
In the Burning window - Writing Volume - Project size is too big!
There is 5.95 GB remaining (bottom left of the DVDit Pro HD)
The Project Settings window shows: Size on DVD: 44.05 GB
The render directory is 40.1 GB

Geert Geerits


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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:23 AM

Yes, 40 GB, but you are not including your motion menus which is at least another 3 GB. Total of a disc is actually 47GB. not sure why 43 won't work. So what happens if you do 24000 kbs instead of 25000 kbs? I know they will be extremely long tests, but I bet it will work.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:21 AM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 23 2008, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, 40 GB, but you are not including your motion menus which is at least another 3 GB. Total of a disc is actually 47GB. not sure why 43 won't work. So what happens if you do 24000 kbs instead of 25000 kbs? I know they will be extremely long tests, but I bet it will work.


Hi Scott,

There are a total of 4 motion menus, the rest are static menus.
When I look in the render Split directory they are each 89,5 MB, this is a total of 358 MB, this is included in the 40 GB.
But tonight I will try it with 24000 kbs.

Geert Geerits

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 07:50 AM

Hi Scott,

Still the same error at 24000 kbs.

In the Burning window - Writing Volume - Project size is too big!

There is 7.68 GB remaining (bottom left of the DVDit Pro HD)
The Project Settings window shows: Size on DVD: 42.32 GB
The render directory is 38.6 GB
There must be some kind of bug in the program.

Geert Geerits


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Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:07 AM

We'll check it out Geert. sorry to jump you through so many hoops.

Scott
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Post icon  Posted 11 July 2008 - 12:52 AM

QUOTE (SS Scott @ Jun 24 2008, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We'll check it out Geert. sorry to jump you through so many hoops.

Scott

Hi any update to this as I have just purchased dvdit pro hd,
system specs
vista 64 home edition
4 gb ddr2
intel Q9300
drive c 500gb
drive d 500gb
drive v 1TB
LG bluray burner

Got the same problem, after eventually finding a mpeg compliant file (elementry stream as i never use anything else) i wanted to produce a bluray disc of one
of the recent shows I had filmed.
The dvd version was produced on two discs as the show ran for 2 hrs 30 mins so i purchased a 50gb sony bluray disc and started to build the project.
It all seemed to fit as dvdit said the disc was something like 35gb ...but tried to burn and it said too big!
I then started again but only imported one show...13gb..same problem too big.
My other question is how do i get an AVC compliant file in as the warning tells me it may not be compliant with dvd and bluray forcing me to use mpeg.
I have read the help files but they dont really solve problem as they dont give enough info about maximum bit rates etc
hope you can help blink.gif


Thanks john


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Posted 11 July 2008 - 05:34 AM

QUOTE (john e @ Jul 11 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi any update to this as I have just purchased dvdit pro hd,
system specs
vista 64 home edition
4 gb ddr2
intel Q9300
drive c 500gb
drive d 500gb
drive v 1TB
LG bluray burner

Got the same problem, after eventually finding a mpeg compliant file (elementry stream as i never use anything else) i wanted to produce a bluray disc of one
of the recent shows I had filmed.
The dvd version was produced on two discs as the show ran for 2 hrs 30 mins so i purchased a 50gb sony bluray disc and started to build the project.
It all seemed to fit as dvdit said the disc was something like 35gb ...but tried to burn and it said too big!
I then started again but only imported one show...13gb..same problem too big.
My other question is how do i get an AVC compliant file in as the warning tells me it may not be compliant with dvd and bluray forcing me to use mpeg.
I have read the help files but they dont really solve problem as they dont give enough info about maximum bit rates etc
hope you can help blink.gif


Thanks john

May have solved the problem, this morning i deleated all the old saved files on my c drive , rebuilt then succesfully created an image file!
but then tried to burn a 50gb BR disc to discover same problem. after research, updating lg burner firmware etc it would appear that the sony BD-RDL 50GB disc i just purchased ( at some expense) is version 1.1 , didnt even know there was a version 1. blink.gif so could this be the problem,wont know until i get hold of a new disc version.1.2 or whatever. rolleyes.gif
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