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[gmccann]

If this is covered in another posting I apologise in advance but I cannot find it.

I have very recently upgraded from Roxio 9 to 10.  Whwn making data discs I used to use Drag to Disc and this worked just fine.  Provided I had not finalised the disc I could edit the contents and remove files added in error or replace them with a later version.

Drag to Disc is not in V10 so I am user Creator Classic to copy the files.  That is fine but I find that the files become Read Only on the disc and the program will not allow me to change that property and so allow me to delete it from the disc or replace it.  I stress that I am aware that after finalisation files cannot be deleted, replaced or moved.

Is there any way I can stop the program automatically changing the property on copied files to Read Only?

Hope someone can help

Graham

[grandpabruce]

If this is covered in another posting I apologise in advance but I cannot find it.

I have very recently upgraded from Roxio 9 to 10.  Whwn making data discs I used to use Drag to Disc and this worked just fine.  Provided I had not finalised the disc I could edit the contents and remove files added in error or replace them with a later version.

Drag to Disc is not in V10 so I am user Creator Classic to copy the files.  That is fine but I find that the files become Read Only on the disc and the program will not allow me to change that property and so allow me to delete it from the disc or replace it.  I stress that I am aware that after finalisation files cannot be deleted, replaced or moved.

Is there any way I can stop the program automatically changing the property on copied files to Read Only?

Hope someone can help

Graham

In Creator Classic, when you click on the Burn button, click on the Advanced options button, then uncheck the box to the left of Read Only.

[Jim_Hardin]

It still is not going to be the same because optical media was never designed or intended to be some sort of shinny floppy…

Packet Writing tried to be the shinny floppy but the failure rate was probably 1000 to 1 when compared to disc authoring like Classic. There are various reasons for that but when you have lost your data, reasons are little comfort to you…

With Session Writing you can "delete" files but you will never recover the space as they are still on the disc. You can only "delete" them in Classic by importing the contents of the disc into your Project and removing ("deleting") them from the Project.

Always check that the Read Only setting is not turned on when you burn because once set the disc is done for.

[gmccann]

In Creator Classic, when you click on the Burn button, click on the Advanced options button, then uncheck the box to the left of Read Only.

That box is not checked and I still get Read Only files on the disc.  Any other ideas?

I am tempted to uninstall v10 and reinstall v9 where I get the very useful Drag to Disc utility which did not give these Read Only and other editing restrictions until the disc was finalised.

Graham

[gi7omy]

Once you write anything to an optical disc, it is read only - that's the nature of the beast. You can delete - but you can't reclaim the space (unless the disc is RW and you erase it completely).

It doesn't work like a magnetic dissk in that respect

[grandpabruce]

That box is not checked and I still get Read Only files on the disc.  Any other ideas?

I am tempted to uninstall v10 and reinstall v9 where I get the very useful Drag to Disc utility which did not give these Read Only and other editing restrictions until the disc was finalised.

Graham

Using any packet writing software, to back up any of your important files, is like playing Russian Roulette.  You are going to eventually lose.

Daithi has your answer on the Read Only part.  You are now getting a little better understanding of optical media.

Edited by grandpabruce, 28 June 2008 - 04:11 PM.

[gmccann]

Using any packet writing software, to back up any of your important files, is like playing Russian Roulette.  You are going to eventually lose.

Daithi has your answer on the Read Only part.  You are now getting a little better understanding of optical media.

Thanks but I am only using the data discs as a medium to pass magazine content to a magazine printer, not as a storage device.  Have already found out the fallibility of using discs for long term storage.

What peeves me is that I could do everything I wanted using the Drag to Disc utility in v9 of the software, now no longer present in v10.  Maybe I will throw v10 in the bin and reload v9.

Graham

[gi7omy]

With the price of DVDs at present, D2D is anachronistic - just write your files to a standard R drive with creator classic, finalise the disc and it can be read by any computer anywhere

[lynn98109]

Thanks but I am only using the data discs as a medium to pass magazine content to a magazine printer, not as a storage device.  Have already found out the fallibility of using discs for long term storage.

What peeves me is that I could do everything I wanted using the Drag to Disc utility in v9 of the software, now no longer present in v10.  Maybe I will throw v10 in the bin and reload v9.

Graham

It is my understanding EMC 9 and EMC 10 can co-exist on the same computer.

Lynn

[gi7omy]

It is my understanding EMC 9 and EMC 10 can co-exist on the same computer.

Lynn

Unless you have Vista - then D2D is out completely

[gi7omy]

Never said never actually

Vista has its own built in packet s/w - so why buy a cow when you get the milk supplied

[Brendon]

Unless you have Vista - then D2D is out completely

Never say NEVER, Daithi.

Here's my D2D with my EMC10 in VISTA a few moments ago.





Cheerful regards,
Brendon

[Brendon]

Never said never actually

Vista has its own built in packet s/w - so why buy a cow when you get the milk supplied

Looks like a backtrack to me      "Out completely" doesn't mean "a pint of blue-top please".

Brendon

[grandpabruce]

Thanks but I am only using the data discs as a medium to pass magazine content to a magazine printer, not as a storage device.  Have already found out the fallibility of using discs for long term storage.

What peeves me is that I could do everything I wanted using the Drag to Disc utility in v9 of the software, now no longer present in v10.  Maybe I will throw v10 in the bin and reload v9.

Graham

Again, Daithi answered before I could get back and post.  In addition to what I said before, packet writing was invented for lazy people.  It really doesn't take any longer to pass on data, with Creator Classic, than it does with packet writing software.  This is not a slam on you.  It is a slam on the m-o-r-o-n who invented packet writing.  He actually dropped in here a year or so, back.  He was an educated m-o-r-o-n.

You can do everything you want to do, in a safer way, by using Creator Classic.

[gmccann]

This really is weird.  When I had v9 loaded Drag to Disc was one of the various utilities shown in Control Panel/Add Remove Software/Roxio.  It also showed in the Send To drop down list you get when right clicking a file which was the way I assembled my CD contents for burning.  Before loading v10 I carefully uninstalled the 10 or 12 separate elements of the program listed there (including Drag to Disc).  Having installed v10 there was no entry under the various program elements and no icon in the system tray. The Send To still showed from a right click but was inoperative, and I then deleted it from the Send To list in Windows.

There is nothing about it in the Program user guide although there is a vagueish reference to Drag to Disc in Help but not on any of the screens of the Creator Suite.

Your image of such a utility is therefore bewildering.  Did you get it from actions in Creator Classic or one of the others in the Creator Site opening screen?

I have tried making discs using both Creator Classic and Data Disc but there was never a sign of Drag to Disc in either process.  Both processes produced Read Only files (with the Read Only files box in the Options settings unchecked) and I was not therefore able to do the sorting and editing of the file list once the disc was burnt but before closing (even on a rewritable disc), other than by reformatting the disc as it would not let me delete anything.

The comment that you can have both v9 and v10 installed at the same time surprises me.  What I had in mind doing was to uninstall v10, reinstall v9 and the uninstall everything except Drag to Disc, then install v10, but you example of Drag to Disc under v10 might indicate that there is another way.  I do wonder whether you actually uninstalled Drag to Disc when you, presumably upgraded from v9 to v10.  Thus it there by way of legacy.

I do not use Vista but doubt that that is a factor.

Would appreciate any ideas.

Graham

Edited by Brendon, 29 June 2008 - 09:45 PM.

[Brendon]

Hello Graham,

I edited your message to remove my screen-clip because it's a bit big. Hope you don't mind


That's version 9 D2D installed and running happily in Vista. I happen to have EMC10 installed there too, but they are quite unconnected.

When some of the folks here have EMC10 and another version running on the same system, they have usually installed the other version after EMC10.
I initially installed D2D in Vista from the 'RedBox' suitelet and then uninstalled everything else to just leave D2D.

You mentioned removing 10 before reinstalling 9, but if you leave EMC10 installed, then do a custom install of 9, and then remove everything of 9 except D2D that should work, I think.

I've left a message for you. Would you please go to the top right corner of this page and click on the 'New Messages' line to receive it.

Regards,
Brendon

[Jim_Hardin]

Sounds like Graham has a valid use for packet writing. As Brendon has indicated you can install D2D from V9 by itself.

Since D2D is no longer included you need to explore alternate means because D2D will eventually reach an Operating System when it will not install or work!

For now you have bought some time but there is a stone wall in your future unless you learn.

I know you can learn otherwise you would still be pasting letters and art on layout boards and taking it to the camera.

[gmccann]

Sounds like Graham has a valid use for packet writing. As Brendon has indicated you can install D2D from V9 by itself.

Since D2D is no longer included you need to explore alternate means because D2D will eventually reach an Operating System when it will not install or work!

For now you have bought some time but there is a stone wall in your future unless you learn.

I know you can learn otherwise you would still be pasting letters and art on layout boards and taking it to the camera.

Many thanks.

Graham

[gmccann]

Many thanks.

Graham

I have just rceived a response from Roxio to similar questions I posted to the forum.  Roxio said that files will always be Read Only when copied to a disc.  What a load of garbage when past versions of the program allowed you to establish the disc as a temporary drive on the computer until you were satisfied with the contents before burning and finalising it.

Grshsm

[gi7omy]

I don't know what version of what program you speak of, but ANY data writtn to optical media is ALWAYS Read Only.

With a RW disc and packet writing, it can be erased - it can NOT be amended or re-written